Sutherland specials...

James Laraway · 23/10/2018 at 14:51

a blast from the past for anyone who has fished for sea trout in the ythan or don...

Hamish Young · 23/10/2018 at 20:15

Collectable, keep them

James Laraway · 23/10/2018 at 22:15

When I first moved back to Aberdeen I remember buying one in Somers. I lost it after quite a few fish. The ones I have now are unused bar one and shall remain that way unless I find a river with no snags what so ever!

Quote from: Hamish Young on 23/10/2018 at 20:15
Collectable, keep them

Rob Brownfield · 24/10/2018 at 07:55

Quote from: Hamish Young on 23/10/2018 at 20:15
Collectable, keep them

Usable...fish them !

Steven Sinclair · 17/01/2019 at 04:58

I'd add some feathers down the flanks (the way Ronnie Sutherland used to on his own lures) and fish them

Still on the lookout for mine. They are in the garage somewhere...

Steven.

James Laraway · 27/02/2019 at 11:49

I didnt know he added feathers - interesting !

I wish someone made them these days....business opportunity for someone !

Quote from: Steven Sinclair on 17/01/2019 at 04:58
I'd add some feathers down the flanks (the way Ronnie Sutherland used to on his own lures) and fish them

Still on the lookout for mine. They are in the garage somewhere...

Steven.

Hamish Young · 27/02/2019 at 18:04

Quote from: James Laraway on 27/02/2019 at 11:49
I wish someone made them these days....business opportunity for someone !

I did have contact details for some of the family but lost them and the last email address I had isn't live any more, I have considered the idea several times as I liked the lures. I was even more tempted when I found a suitable 'wing' substitute - which was the problem with most Sutherland Specials that ended up in the bin... broken plastic 'wings'.
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Graham Nicol · 27/02/2019 at 18:16

Not only are these good for sea trout but it was my number 1 lure for salmon on the Don and extremely effective

James Laraway · 27/02/2019 at 19:13

I was thinking 3D printing...

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I did have contact details for some of the family but lost them and the last email address I had isn't live any more, I have considered the idea several times as I liked the lures. I was even more tempted when I found a suitable 'wing' substitute - which was the problem with most Sutherland Specials that ended up in the bin... broken plastic 'wings'.
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Cameron deBoth · 28/02/2019 at 08:47

Quote from: James Laraway on 27/02/2019 at 19:13
I was thinking 3D printing...

An easy thing to do! I can model them in 3D if required.

James Laraway · 28/02/2019 at 09:15

Quote from: Cameron deBoth on 28/02/2019 at 08:47
An easy thing to do! I can model them in 3D if required.

Hi Cameron
that is an amazing offer.

Now, the original is a heavy metallic body and then the fins are added after. With a hole down the middle

However I am not trying to recreate the original. If we could create a plastic 'all in one' and then insert a tube down the middle i reccon that it would work. ( if extra weight was required then you could fish one with a weight up the line)

I'm willing to give it a go if you are ?

regards
James

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Cameron deBoth · 28/02/2019 at 10:34

Here is a VERY crude and quick model I just whipped up as an example.

James Laraway · 28/02/2019 at 14:09

Quote from: Cameron deBoth on 28/02/2019 at 10:34
Here is a VERY crude and quick model I just whipped up as an example.

nice - would you like me to send you a real one so that you have have a look, measure etc ?

if so please send me a PM with you addess.

they are rather rare as they have not been produced for years so i will need it back through ;-)

The Brit. Patent number is 793370 but I'm sure it will have expired so we wont be breaking the law ( patents run out after 20 years)

James Laraway · 01/03/2019 at 13:32

Sandy Nelson · 02/03/2019 at 12:36

It'll be very interesting to see how this works out.
I have a feeling the distinct V in the front vane on the original had a big effect in the action as well,

Sandy

Cameron deBoth · 19/03/2019 at 11:30

Sorry been away on the Skye and Harris/Lewis. I'll try get the dims updates over lunch. Didnt spot the front was a V initially so I'll look to update that also.

Cameron deBoth · 19/03/2019 at 12:14

Here we are.

Steven Sinclair · 20/03/2019 at 01:28

That's awesome!

Any one got a 3d printer....

I'm looking to buy an airbrushing kit to revive some old tomic plugs i've acquired for Ferox hunting. i'd be happy to attempt to paint them for folks if somebody was able to print the lures. Blue over Silver would be my preference

Steven.

Cameron deBoth · 20/03/2019 at 10:20

Quote from: Steven Sinclair on 20/03/2019 at 01:28
That's awesome!

Any one got a 3d printer....

I'm looking to buy an airbrushing kit to revive some old tomic plugs i've acquired for Ferox hunting. i'd be happy to attempt to paint them for folks if somebody was able to print the lures. Blue over Silver would be my preference

Steven.

I know a bloke. I'll text him but he works for RGU so not sure if he can use the machines for a cost. He may have his own printer for all I know.

Only thing is, currently its missing a weighted centre like the original seems to have? Need to have a look at what inserts we can find cheaply online and then I can adjust the model to suit and maybe epoxy them in or something?

Can have them 3D printed in clear material ready for painting.

One thought I had. Having them printed fully if the "wings" snap off you are scuppered. Do we look to have replaceable ones? Not thought how to do that yet though and its adding complexity. Might be cheap enough to 3D print though so not a worry.

Steven Sinclair · 20/03/2019 at 12:31

Quote from: Cameron deBoth on 20/03/2019 at 10:20
I know a bloke. I'll text him but he works for RGU so not sure if he can use the machines for a cost. He may have his own printer for all I know.

Only thing is, currently its missing a weighted centre like the original seems to have? Need to have a look at what inserts we can find cheaply online and then I can adjust the model to suit and maybe epoxy them in or something?

Can have them 3D printed in clear material ready for painting.

One thought I had. Having them printed fully if the "wings" snap off you are scuppered. Do we look to have replaceable ones? Not thought how to do that yet though and its adding complexity. Might be cheap enough to 3D print though so not a worry.

Cameron, if it were we I would have a recess where clear plastic fins could be glued into and if required couod be easily replaced.

Cameron deBoth · 21/03/2019 at 07:36

Quote from: Steven Sinclair on 20/03/2019 at 12:31
Cameron, if it were we I would have a recess where clear plastic fins could be glued into and if required couod be easily replaced.

Yeah, I was thinking something along those lines and if they snap off you can just drill them out and glue new ones in. Might make it cheaper having them separate as you would need less support material to print it as one complete item.

Phil Duncan · 13/02/2026 at 00:50

look into this fella..couldnt have helped enough ..

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61565219824935

themassinassassin.com

James Laraway · 13/02/2026 at 09:51

i looked at the assassins. They look pretty good to be fair but at £13 a pop for a lure that is heavy and swims deep its a good way to get through a few quid.....

I still think if someone did a cheap injected plastic mould version you could put them out for a fraction of the price - or a 3d printed one...