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Sandy Nelson

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #25 on: 07/06/2018 at 08:26 »
You saying i'm old  :shock :shock

 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 I was doing my grumpy old man bit about advertising :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

Dave, the New Epic blanks are still a Class apart when it comes to Glass  :z16
I have both here, the new ones from Mark and the new Fastglass11 476 and although the Helix is a great fishing rod, the Epic still has it for quality. They are better prices now too, so as an example an Epic will cost you £425 fully built (from me) with your choices including Epic glass tube and UK delivery, the S-Helix will cost you £345 with a Carbon tube and UK delivery. Price the same for any of the sizes. Full range should be available for the start of the building season in October
I should have a new 476 as a demo by the end of the summer if you fancy playing.

Carl still sells the self build kits too, which make thing very easy for a first time builder and if you have the time is  a great idea, much more fun making your own one and there is plenty of help available on here :z16

Sandy

Nb. If its an NRX LP then its a superb fly rod, if its a standard NRX avoid it if you fish dries on the river. :z18

Dave Robb

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #26 on: 07/06/2018 at 09:06 »
Sandy, pm sent.

 :z18

Vedran Oreskovic

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #27 on: 09/06/2018 at 02:06 »
When I have more time I will add my 2p to the above but right now I have spent a day with  the love of my life and really appreciate the softer things in life! My Guideline Fario 9' #4 is not fast but throws a lovely line. Not very far, but far enough to catch fish and feel the heart beat of the trout that you are attached to. It doesn't like beaded flies, except for short range stuff, but unweighted things are ace.
Maybe it is my age but some things are not as stiff as they used to be! :oops  :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

Euan

I have Helios 2 5wt 9ft medium action and as you say I can feel the heart beat of the trout that take my fly.  Totaly agree with you! I have two fast action rods, Hardy Zenith 5wt (which I wanted for years but never managed to find one untill this winter) and orvis Recon, but I choose H2 midflex about 95%  when going to river. Also great thing is that H2 cast great in close and far. Now using Mallard flyline, but also before I used rio gold, sa gpx and mpx depending on the situation at water., and time of year..

Euan Innes

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #28 on: 09/06/2018 at 17:38 »
Vedran,
You should try a GT90 on it. My Fario likes the SLX (I could even put on an intermediate poly and still use it!), likes the Mallard DT4 but LOVES the GT90. I haven't tried the poly on the GT90 yet but I am going North next week so might give it a bash.
My love of "fast" rods is fading away but unlike Hamish I will use my Bamboo rod.
Might even take it North.... :z4

Euan :z1

Hamish Young

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #29 on: 10/06/2018 at 11:27 »
Might even take it North.... :z4
Good, I need something to tie up my roses with  :wink

Euan Innes

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #30 on: 10/06/2018 at 23:29 »
Feck you🖕
If we stop at a burn mouth it could be good fun with wee troot.
It has also been a while since I had a chuck with it so let me be😁
Euan

Terry Coging

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #31 on: 14/06/2018 at 08:31 »
It would be safe to say that between you guys you have tried just about everything out there.  So here's the question.  How would you define 'recovery'  and how does fast recovery relate to fish playing qualities on fine leaders?

Rob Brownfield

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #32 on: 14/06/2018 at 10:03 »
It would be safe to say that between you guys you have tried just about everything out there.  So here's the question.  How would you define 'recovery'  and how does fast recovery relate to fish playing qualities on fine leaders?

Hi Terry,
The recovery is the speed the tip returns to its original straight form. It does not affect the playing ability of the rod...it still bends. A fast recovery does not always mean a stiff rod.

As an example, my glass rod has a very fast recovery, but its wonderful with light tippets.


Terry Coging

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #33 on: 14/06/2018 at 22:17 »
Thanks Rob. The reason I asked the question is that, speaking as a dim engineer, it seems counter intuitive that a fast recovery rod can also have a soft fish playing nature?  In the search for higher performance and sales, graphene is being used to augment CF, as was boron etc., but you and many others are going back to glass? I am very happy with the graphene rod. It bent nicely on a hundred or so 12oz brownies last week but the question still lingers......
 

Vedran Oreskovic

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #34 on: 15/06/2018 at 20:41 »
 :z4 I was in doubt what line to buy, SLX or GT90..and I ordered SLX 5 days ago :-D I'm pretty sure it will be great and I can't wait to arrive to try it. But next line will be GT90 for sure  :z16

Vedran,
You should try a GT90 on it. My Fario likes the SLX (I could even put on an intermediate poly and still use it!), likes the Mallard DT4 but LOVES the GT90. I haven't tried the poly on the GT90 yet but I am going North next week so might give it a bash.
My love of "fast" rods is fading away but unlike Hamish I will use my Bamboo rod.
Might even take it North.... :z4

Euan :z1

Terry Coging

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #35 on: 20/06/2018 at 12:09 »
Thanks for that Rob.  I saw an  illustration of the cross section and it certainly looked like graphene was separate to the resin? Can't for the life of me find it anywhere. Would like to take a fresh look just as a matter of interest.  Whatever the application it will not affect my appreciation of the FX1.

My first rod blank was a tank aerial  :cool:  moved on a bit from then...........



Hamish Young

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey New
« Reply #36 on: 20/06/2018 at 17:44 »
Thanks for that Rob.  I saw an  illustration of the cross section and it certainly looked like graphene was separate to the resin? Can't for the life of me find it anywhere. Would like to take a fresh look just as a matter of interest.  Whatever the application it will not affect my appreciation of the FX1.
Probably this that you saw Terry  https://gamefishingireland.ie/2016/03/09/mackenzie-fx1-graphene/

My first rod blank was a tank aerial  :cool:  moved on a bit from then...........

Aye, my Dad still had his until ten or so years ago  :wink

H   :z18

Terry Coging

Re: Rod actions.... a personal journey
« Reply #37 on: 21/06/2018 at 12:09 »
Thank you Hamish. That is where I saw it.  So the graphene is a structure, rather than a particle mix with the resin. That makes far more sense.

 




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