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Terry Coging

Boat in the Highlands?
« on: December 27, 2017, 09:24:30 AM »
I'm thinking of taking my own boat up to the Assynt and Wester Ross regions this coming season.  I know that some lochs will not allow private boats to be launched but there is one particular loch that I am targeting - Veyatie.  I know that launching is permissible via Ledmore Estate.  As well as being a wonderful loch, a boat on Veyatie can make L Mahdail accessible.  Tried it last year but the water was too low to get the estate boat over the sand bar.  My boat is longer, slimmer and lighter and could have been dragged over quite easily.  Borralan is OK for a private boat. Does anyone know of other lochs where I could launch the boat?

Hamish Young

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2017, 11:00:16 AM »
Subject to local agreement I've seen folk using their own boats on Loch Shin which is sort of only just in your described area of interest. Loch Luichart might be worth a punt  :z16
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Derek Roxborough

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2017, 12:54:16 PM »
Subject to local agreement I've seen folk using their own boats on Loch Shin which is sort of only just in your described area of interest. Loch Luichart might be worth a punt  :z16
   but probably better with a large boat, Hamish  :z13 . Long way to tow a boat Terry, good luck with that Derek Roxborough

Hamish Young

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2017, 16:42:18 PM »
   but probably better with a large boat, Hamish  :z13 .
Sorry Derek, don't follow you  ???
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Derek Roxborough

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2017, 21:01:24 PM »
Sorry Derek, don't follow you  ???
  Punts Hamish?  :X1 Derek Roxborough

Terry Coging

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2017, 21:56:41 PM »
Had a look at Loch Shin again this year and launching from the Lairg Anglers clubhouse looks easy enough.
Fished it years ago  and found it a bit intimidating and not as interesting as Cam or Vayetie.  Loch Luichart? Will have a look at that.
Yes, it is a long way to take a boat Derek, but it also means a bit of sea fishing is possible.  A pal caught a sea trout from the beach just south of Ullapool and I saw quite a few jumping way out from casting distance.  Wish I had taken the boat to fly fish for Pollock.  The sea fish were quite plentiful when I used to fish Loch Ewe and Gairloch (around Longa Island) 40 years ago. Wonder what that is like now?
 

Hamish Young

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2017, 08:17:01 AM »
  Punts Hamish?  :X1 Derek Roxborough
Aaaahhh  :X1
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience ;)

Hamish Young

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2017, 08:35:54 AM »
Had a look at Loch Shin again this year and launching from the Lairg Anglers clubhouse looks easy enough.
It is super easy from there, depending on loch height.

Fished it years ago  and found it a bit intimidating and not as interesting as Cam or Vayetie.
I had never fished it as low as it was last year, useful experience. It's nowhere near as scenic as Cam or Veyatie, but it has its own charm and I'm drawn back for a day or two most seasons. You may find it is possible to get permission to launch from the NW/Overscaig end of the loch. Some good fishing to be had there.

Loch Luichart? Will have a look at that.
It's a stunning looking loch and having driven past portions of it many times over the last few years I've never actually seen anyone fishing it. Now, that could be considered a bad thing, but according to some of my sources the fishing is actually really quite good and it's on my hit list.  There's (apparently) very good Perch, Pike and trophy Trout to be found.  I take these things with a pinch of salt, but it is a great spot.

So much water.... so few days to fish it all  :shock
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience ;)

Derek Roxborough

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2017, 15:44:46 PM »
 we had some decent fishing on Shin last year boat and bank, nowt huge but nice  fish around 3/4lb the lairg club have boats at the Overscaig end, Sea fishing Terry ? not a lot in the loch now Taking off the 3 mile limit put paid to the decent fishing other than an odd pollach and the mackerel, even the Mackarel fishing was poor last year, but 2018 is another year good luck Derek Roxborough

Terry Coging

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2017, 16:34:47 PM »
Thank you Derek.  May try Loch Shin then.  Did you fish the Overscaig end?

Talking about boats. If anyone is considering buying a boat I can recommend the Tehri Saiman.  It's got everything that a private owner wants for recreational use or loch style fishing. Although lighter than the usual loch boats it drifts nicely due to the long keel. Extremely efficient with motor and oars and quite spacious. It copes with a decent wave and is quite a safe boat. Google up Tehri Saiman for several u tubes.

Derek Roxborough

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2017, 21:38:02 PM »
Aye Terry we were staying at Corriekinloch  so it was handy for us,  you could probably find out about putting a boat on Merkland, nice loch to fish ,  about your boat does it sit in the water or on the water? that makes a difference in a stiff breeze when drifting,  we have those Pioner boats at the club,  without a drogue they drift like a box, but they are very safe,  :X2  Derek Roxborough

Terry Coging

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2017, 12:42:50 PM »
Derek - the boat does sit 'on' the water and does need the drogue in a stiff breeze. The long keel steadies it up in moderate winds though. I would not recommend them for commercial use where they get abused a bit. It's a great boat for electric outboards which I prefer when conditions allow.  It's a nice 'boaty' shape, with a high prow and narrow, raised stern making it good in a following wave. 4hp moves it along quite briskly - even in reverse.  It's fairly light and I can still launch it by myself and I'm coming up for 80.

I will take a look at Merkland as a possibility.

Derek Roxborough

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2017, 23:22:07 PM »
 hope it all works out for you, I prefer a boat that sits in the water, saves having a drogue, we have to use a drogue on the pioneer Bath tubs, but with the flat bottom they tend to slew about from the drogue , so you don't really get a straight drift, the old Loch maree boats were perfect  for it , good luck any way
Derek Roxborough

Hamish Young

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2017, 09:13:06 AM »
I prefer a boat that sits in the water, saves having a drogue, we have to use a drogue on the pioneer Bath tubs, but with the flat bottom they tend to slew about from the drogue
Having used Pioner boats (hatefully :!) extensively they are stable but they drift like tumble-weed in a hurricane   :roll
It is possible to make a Pioner drift properly but to do it you need either two drogues or, perhaps more simply, set up a large drogue on a guide rope that runs the length of the boat. It is a bit of a pain/fiddly to get right but it is worth it to get a decent drift.
Euan and I fished down much of the North bank of Loch Assynt in a 15' Pioner a few years back with the 'mobile drogue' requiring only occasional adjustment to give us the desired drift - no correction with outboard or oars.
The other option is to set the Pioner bow into the wind presenting the smallest surface to the wind, again using a drogue to 'set' the drift. That works very well, especially when the wind gets 'brisk'.
H
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Derek Roxborough

Re: Boat in the Highlands?
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2017, 14:15:40 PM »
 The Club bought these Pioners , for safety as we let these boats out, so it's some sort of insurance, we have a Scandinavian boat, that has a good Keel, sits well in the water, but its a beggar for me to carry a big battery to , and it's up hill all the way back, the Pioner sits at pontoon and is much easier to access,  so it gets more use from me , Derek Roxborough

 




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