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Dutchfly

10 ft 3 wt
« on: 25/11/2007 at 19:56 »
Hi all,

Anyone know of a 10 ft 3 wt, 4 pce blank with a medium fast action (as far as fast goes with this line and length...)?
Thusfar the only one I've found is a rod by Ken Sawada, but that's a 2 pce (well, 9'8" #3, the KS AC Imago).

CU

Jeroen

Hamish Young

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #1 on: 26/11/2007 at 00:05 »
Quite a few #4wts around Jeroen but #3 a wee bit scarce  :z10

I'll see what I can find, but Sandy & Mike might be able to turn up something  :?

Mike Barrio

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #2 on: 26/11/2007 at 00:20 »
Hi Jeroen

That is a very interesting request :z3

I'm curious ......... what do you want to use the rod for Jeroen? What fishing situations, or tactics?

The reason for asking is, as you know, I have spent a lot of time experimenting with what might be considered "longer than usual" lightweight 3 to 5wt fly rods :wink

By far the best that we have managed to produce from our research and development is the current Barrio 9ft 4pce 3wt. "The best" being that this rod is superb for the river and small stillwater dry fly, spider and small nymph tactics that we were looking for.

BUT: We have built other prototypes and some of these are very nice fly rods. Although these prototypes did not turn out to be better than our current rod for the situations and tactics that we were looking for, some of them would make grand fly rods for other applications :wink

Tell me more about what you are looking for :z17
Best wishes
Mike Barrio

Sandy Nelson

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #3 on: 26/11/2007 at 17:03 »
hi Jeroen

As Mike says we've pretty much exhausted the world as far as lightweight blanks go.
I haven't come up with a 4pc 10ft 3wt, We did try a 10ft6" 4/5 wt that was 4 piece, it was great with a DT4, the two blanks we got to play with i have just built up as complete rods and will be offered for sale soon, See Mike if you are interested. Its very light and pretty quick for such a long rod, Really nice to fish with especially off a boat (the reason for trying it) we might keep it up our sleeve for the future.
The demand for the 9ft 3wt is keeping me too busy to build additional rods at the moment, unless they are Bamboo :grin Then i can get some real fun.

A long time ago Bruce and Walkers made a few rods for Geoff Bucknall, i think they were 10ft 2/3 wts not sure how many pieces, i tried to get one to try a while ago and was told it was not available to the general public.

cheers

Sandy

Hamish Young

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #4 on: 26/11/2007 at 20:12 »
I had a thought on my way into work...... Snowbee ZR2.
Don't think it's a four piece though, 3 piece I think  :z10 and getting your hands on a blank could prove 'tricky' but if my recollection is sound then it does come as a 3/4 weight ten footer, only reason I thought of it was I quite fancied one myself at one point  :wink
Only note of caution is the ZR2 is/was the replacement for the (coughs loudly) "fragile" Zircon series  :shock

Dutchfly

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #5 on: 26/11/2007 at 20:45 »
Thanks guys!

We'll be fishing the lochs in Sutherland again next year (Rhiconich Hotel). Last time we were there, some days we had all the weathertypes Scotland has to offer: bright sunshine and 24 degrees celcius, followed by rains and storm and then back to the sun again, all within 2 hours or so. In those calm conditions I felt there was no need for my more or less standard outfit 10 ft 7 wt. A 5 weight will do in those conditions, but I think a 3 weight will bring the best out of those small but strong trout.

Now, the rod I use in the Dutch polders is an Orvis Western 9 ft 3 wt I build back in the middleages (1989 or so). It can cast a decent line, is sensitive enough on small fish (in the polder I love fishing for rudd on a dry fly; we call them poldertrout) yet it has the backbone to land a carp within the hour :wink

But it's 2 piece, so not very handy to bring to Scotland in a plane or to make long hikes with. Plus, 9 ft is nice, but sometimes just that little extra reach is handy because in the polders there's usually a lot of weed where you don't want your fish to go into.

So that's the story behind a 4 pc 10 ft 3 wt rod. I'll use it for my standard polderfishing and, in the right conditions, 'extreme loch style.'

Now the biggest challenge is finding one!!!

CU

Jeroen


PS I know there are a lot of 4 weights out there, but for some reason, I always fish with odd lineweights. Hmm, that could be a new thread right there :z4

PS2: Thanks for the tip, Hamish!

Mike Barrio

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #6 on: 27/11/2007 at 20:42 »
Hi Jeroen

That's what I thought you might say :z3

If you haven't found something before you come over, you'll have to try one of our 10ft 6" prototypes ........ I think you will like them :wink

Best wishes
Mike

Dutchfly

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #7 on: 28/11/2007 at 21:24 »
Hi Mike,

I must admit I'm curious! Not sure though if we'll have the time to test the rod, given that's a long drive from Aberdeen to Rhiconich...
But there's still a lot of time to figure something out. :cool:

CU

Jeroen

Mike Barrio

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #8 on: 28/11/2007 at 21:38 »
Hi Jeroen

Will send you a PM :z3

Best wishes
Mike

Iain Cameron

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #9 on: 29/11/2007 at 14:07 »
I had a thought on my way into work...... Snowbee ZR2.
Don't think it's a four piece though, 3 piece I think  :z10 and getting your hands on a blank could prove 'tricky' but if my recollection is sound then it does come as a 3/4 weight ten footer, only reason I thought of it was I quite fancied one myself at one point  :wink
Only note of caution is the ZR2 is/was the replacement for the (coughs loudly) "fragile" Zircon series  :shock

Hamish is correct, the snowbee ZR2 is a 3-piece, 3/4#wt, 10ft.
I have the ZR2 model. it's very soft and slow, so isn't ideal for longer, precise casting (at least, not it my hands it isn't...)  -- however, it's a great river rod for czech nymphing style, or for unorthodox casts in awkward places, eg flipping line upstream using the current's drag to bend the rod, or for roll casting. THe extra length also helps when mending the line, or keeping the line off of the surface. 

cheers
iain

Sandy Nelson

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #10 on: 23/12/2007 at 23:59 »
Out of interest

I came across this today while following a thread elsewhere.

shop.siman.cz/

Check out the Maxia range of rods, there is a 10ft 4pc 2wt :shock  i bet its rather soft though, some other interesting configurations on there too.
Czech nymph specialists

Sandy

Andy Wren

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #11 on: 29/12/2007 at 14:13 »
hi Jeroen

As Mike says we've pretty much exhausted the world as far as lightweight blanks go.
I haven't come up with a 4pc 10ft 3wt, We did try a 10ft6" 4/5 wt that was 4 piece, it was great with a DT4, the two blanks we got to play with i have just built up as complete rods and will be offered for sale soon, See Mike if you are interested. Its very light and pretty quick for such a long rod, Really nice to fish with especially off a boat (the reason for trying it) we might keep it up our sleeve for the future.
The demand for the 9ft 3wt is keeping me too busy to build additional rods at the moment, unless they are Bamboo :grin Then i can get some real fun.

A long time ago Bruce and Walkers made a few rods for Geoff Bucknall, i think they were 10ft 2/3 wts not sure how many pieces, i tried to get one to try a while ago and was told it was not available to the general public.

cheers

Sandy
Sandy those Bucknall rods are called britewater .
I have the 8 ft version ,my regular chalk stream rod especially grayling .
Geoff does nhold a stock of these blanks in various lenghts ,contacting him could be hard as the phone number I had no longer works !

Sandy Nelson

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #12 on: 01/01/2008 at 12:15 »
Cheers ACW

Whats the rod like? I've read about them and they dont sound quite my cup of tea
But the thinking behind then is exactly my thing, thats why i was always interested in finding out what it was like, 9ft is about my limit though, i'm not comfortable with much longer although i can see the worth to some folk :grin

Sandy

Jim Doyle

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #13 on: 03/01/2008 at 18:32 »
for sale on the completefisher forum at the moment are 2 10t 4wt sceirras for £99.99 each.  jim

Sandy Nelson

Re: 10 ft 3 wt
« Reply #14 on: 05/01/2008 at 12:24 »
I had one of them for a while

Great rod with a WF3F but i already had a better one (9ft 3wt), so it never got used :z6

Went to a good home though :grin

Sandy

 




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