Fishing The Fly Scotland Forum

Mike Barrio

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #90 on: 04/02/2017 at 10:53 »
Nothing moral in my thoughts on this Allan, simply eleven years experience of running a fishery. Folk frequently hooked each other when fishing from boats, in the face, ears, neck and head ..... and themselves in hands and fingers. I was frequently asked to help to remove barbed and de-barbed hooks from folk and in the end wouldn't do it - it was inevitably my fault when it hurt  :z6

Barbless hooks did make a very big difference in how long it took to release a fish, how much that fish was handled and greatly reduced mouth wounds in my experience too. But perhaps the worst culprit for mouth wounds was aggressive striking with rods in the heavier line weights.

Cheers
Mike

Liam Stephen

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #91 on: 04/02/2017 at 11:40 »
Interesting post Allan! I'm sure many will be shouting at their phone/monitor.  :z4 :z7

Liam

Liam Stephen

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #92 on: 04/02/2017 at 11:53 »
Mike  :z16

I wish the rapala hook that a fish impaled me with whilst still on had been barbless.....  :cry

I can still feel it now and it still makes me queasy just thinking about it. Sore isn't it Ash!?  :z4

Most of my barbed hooks have now been debarbed.

 :z18

Ashley Thomas

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #93 on: 04/02/2017 at 12:05 »
Mike  :z16

I wish the rapala hook that a fish impaled me with whilst still on had been barbless.....  :cry

I can still feel it no and it still makes me queasy just thinking about it. Sore isn't it Ash!?  :z4

Most of my barbless hooks have now been debarbed.

 :z18

I had a funny feeling you'd mention it in this post.. not a nice feeling, even worse looking at you when it happened and your as white as casper  :shock  :X2

Ash

Marc Fauvet

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #94 on: 04/02/2017 at 13:12 »
barbless hooks cause more damage due to the amount of additional movement. 

like what compared to a barbed hook, they come out and go back in ?...   :X1

both types of hooks have the same potential to swivel around as a fish changes direction. the barb has to, and does, create more tears and damage as the hook is swiveling. it's blaringly obvious.

Mike Barrio

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #95 on: 04/02/2017 at 13:24 »
Sorry if my comment has kind of hi-jacked your great topic Liam :oops ...... but it's all interesting discussion.

Cheers
Mike

Liam Stephen

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #96 on: 04/02/2017 at 14:57 »
No worries Mike!  :z16

Discussion is good, this is the place to do it.

 :z18

Liam Stephen

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #97 on: 04/02/2017 at 16:33 »
The 'spares' nymph box. A couple of PT variants that I have huge success with and a hares ear type buggy thing.




350+ nymphs should last a wee while at least. At last count I had 17 dries!  :z4

 :z18

Jeff Donovan

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #98 on: 04/02/2017 at 19:33 »
Lovely looking box of trout-candy.   :z16

Liam Stephen

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #99 on: 04/02/2017 at 22:08 »
A new 'Duo Dry/Float/Indicator/Suspenser/Bobber (that should keep everyone happy) to try this season a long with a few big Klinks.  :z4

I saw the fly on Stan from Ceramic Flies FB page and liked the look of it. They float forever and revive super quickly.





Im struggling to get into tying dries again. It's been a long winter of mainly tungsten and lead.  :z7

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Allan Liddle

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #100 on: 04/02/2017 at 23:28 »
Interesting post Allan! I'm sure many will be shouting at their phone/monitor.  :z4 :z7

Liam

Yup, exactly why i typed it  :z4 :z4

Allan Liddle

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #101 on: 04/02/2017 at 23:30 »
like what compared to a barbed hook, they come out and go back in ?...   :X1

both types of hooks have the same potential to swivel around as a fish changes direction. the barb has to, and does, create more tears and damage as the hook is swiveling. it's blaringly obvious.

Ahh the dangers of an out of context quote, you don't work for the Record or the Sun Marc?? :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

Marc Fauvet

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #102 on: 05/02/2017 at 10:10 »
no, i'm independent !!!  :z4 :z4 :z4

Allan Liddle

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #103 on: 05/02/2017 at 10:23 »
 :z4 :z4

Derek Roxborough

Re: Tying Season 2016/17
« Reply #104 on: 05/02/2017 at 13:12 »
After working in  a hatchery for a few years it is amazing just how much handling  small fish will take, and the bigger ones at stripping time,  I tried barbless hooks ( Moser) and I didn't like them I have a few G Bucknall Micro barb hooks left, I bought quite a lot of them at a Market outside Stirling, these have been very good and easy to release,I can handle and release with out much stress  to the fish, so I will keep to my hooks, :z12 easgach 1

 




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