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Mike Barrio

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2015, 10:23:53 AM »
What did you make of the Stroft Iain?

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Mike
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Euan Innes

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2015, 11:42:28 AM »
Love the nylon chart Iain.  :z16
I have something similar with Drennan and Superstrong that I will try and post tonight.

I think that overall the reason that I fish with what I use, is down to how the nylon knots. In Uist I had two breakages with Riverge and gave the spool to Iain and went back to Drennan. This was probably my own fault as I only ever use the Orvis knot and have done for 22 years now. Riverge no likey Orvis knots but normal nylons do. Twenty years ago "double strength" nylon and flourocarbon were very expensive and usually pretty crap and it was only when Hamish and I got that sample of Riverge that I looked else where. Birds nests on a windy day in a boat soon put me off Riverge!  :z4

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Living with deep, full breaths is the way of the trout. Fish, it seems, are the ultimate teachers in breathing.
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Mike Barrio

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2015, 11:48:45 AM »
Euan ..... Can you try uploading an image here please? :z16

I'm trying to work out if it is only Iain that has the issue? ..... I can upload images today fine.

Cheers
Mike

PS: Doesn't have to be Euan, can any forum member try to upload a test image please :z16
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Marc Fauvet

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2015, 22:22:26 PM »
here's a pic of Sweden from Spain, Mike !  :z4



Mike Barrio

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2015, 22:44:42 PM »
Thanks for doing the photo test post Marc ..... you're a star :z16

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Mike
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Euan Innes

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2015, 12:09:49 PM »
Finally got round to posting this (work, work, work...)



I like the Profil sizes and the Ultragreen matches nicely so we will see what this year brings.

 :z1
Living with deep, full breaths is the way of the trout. Fish, it seems, are the ultimate teachers in breathing.
RC Cone

Iain Cameron

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2015, 07:11:35 AM »
What did you make of the Stroft Iain?

I didn't use it much. Cannot remember why. I like its colour.
The spools were toooo big for my usual tippet pocket, and that irked. (to be fair, that annoys me about Maxima too!).
I'll give it anohter outing this year, as I know my pal Matt is a fan. Maybe i found it too soft? hence prone to fankling.

It's perhaps simply that i have riverge as my good/expensive thin flouro, and ultrgreen or drennan sub for cheap mono, and didn't want to complicate my life with too many options!

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Allan Liddle

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2015, 13:56:04 PM »
The only thing i'd question with the Maxima is the 'best by test' selling feature.  Didn't occur to me until i started taking close up shots of flies on the leader (especially in the fish's mooths when nylon wet) and then you see how really stirking it can be (other types similarly so especially in comparable diameters).  So obvious answer is Maxima is simply telling porkies, 3lb is actually 4lb etc????  Going to try 2lb more this season in hard times and post results later.

Ben_D

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2015, 21:08:23 PM »
This always interests me having sold the stuff for years.

Best fluoro I ever used was Orvis Mirage Max Knot Strength but it was discontinued after a couple of years as the factory where is was made in Japan decided to stop producing it.  Standard Mirage is my go to fluoro and provided I am careful with both choice & tying of knots then I have no problems and have used it down to 3x with the right gear for salmon.  In my experience, 4 turn water knots will break as will tucked half bloods, avoid these and it is fine and has never let me down.  Only ever really use fluoro for stillwater subsurface stuff, lures, traditional wets or salmon these days.  Super Strong tippet for most trout fishing and always Super Strong tapered leaders.

As Alan points out, all 3lb mono is not equal.  3lb Maxima will cope with a decent size of fly, 3.5lb  Super Strong will not as it does not have the required diameter.  I use the thickest / strongest material I can that will still allow the fly to behave as I want it to.


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Ben

Rob Brownfield

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2015, 07:43:56 AM »
So obvious answer is Maxima is simply telling porkies, 3lb is actually 4lb etc???? 

The original Maxima Chameleon was a very popular line with coarse anglers back in the 80's. They did a series of tests against leading brands, which was not many back then, but included Perlon, Sylcast, Stren etc. and it came out on top. I think this is when they coined the Best by Test phrase.

The tests included knot strength, abrasion, visibility in different settings and so on. Remembering Maxima was never a "leader" but always a main line, I guess there claim is correct.

Interestingly, there was an article in a carp magazine the other day saying that trading standards have been asked to look into the claims of fishing tackle manufacturers, with line diameter and breaking strain being one of the points to investigate. Seems many companies are a little bit "liberal" with the truth.

Maybe not much use to fly anglers, but here is some results carried out by a leading tackle shop down south....worth noting the Flurocarbon results...

http://www.tacklebox.co.uk/images/line-test/Tackle-Box-Line-Tests.pdf

Ok, I admit it, I quite like this salmon fishing lark....

Jacques Kerspern

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2015, 09:36:19 AM »
For dry fly fishing brooks and medium size rivers in Britanny :
- Maxima Chameleon (not boiled) as tapered leader with 0,450     0,350     0,250      0,150 mm   (double uni knots or barril knots).
- Maruto monofilament as tippet and shock tippet    0,148    0,128     or  0,104 mm   (surgeon knots).
Simple and suitable for overgrown banks......and fitting my skills !
Kenavo. 

Mike Barrio

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2015, 09:45:10 AM »
Welcome to the forum Jako :z16

Best wishes
Mike
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Marc Fauvet

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2015, 10:52:07 AM »
shock tippet for dry fly fishing ?

Will Shaw

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2015, 10:59:14 AM »
shock tippet for dry fly fishing ?

That'll be to cope with the shock of occasionally having to fish sunk flies.  :wink

W.


Marc Fauvet

Re: Best Tippet 2014
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2015, 13:09:48 PM »
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