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« **Reply #25 on:** 15/03/2013 at 20:04 »

Great stuff Hamish

« **Reply #26 on:** 20/03/2013 at 16:40 »

Another addition,

But... I haven't quite finished making the head look 'tidy'.

H

« **Reply #27 on:** 20/03/2013 at 18:59 »

You'll be gutted when you lose that one, doesn't look like a 5 minute tie. Get some super glue on the front, that should tidy it up a bit

« **Reply #28 on:** 20/03/2013 at 19:21 »

Teflon hard as nails will just have to do. Besides...... isn't it just Peter that uses superglue for tying with

« **Reply #29 on:** 20/03/2013 at 19:29 »

I like that H.
You going to roast it or barbecue it?

Seriously though, me also likey your new toy. I could have done with that 15 years ago...

« **Reply #30 on:** 20/03/2013 at 21:44 »

Nice, I like the spey plumes (I'm assuming that's what the collar hackle is).
I was looking at them at the weekend down in Forfar but as the Trout season is all but here I didn't buy any.

Will have to give them a try, are they robust?

Iain

« **Reply #31 on:** 20/03/2013 at 22:08 »

Quote from: Goolager on 20/03/2013 at 21:44

Nice, I like the spey plumes (I'm assuming that's what the collar hackle is).

Cheers Iain and it's a good guess..... but it's not right. In fact the hackles used in that fly are the 'bases' of Schlappen hackles

Quote from: Goolager on 20/03/2013 at 21:44

Will have to give them a try, are they robust?

Have used the schlappen this way before and the answer is yes - they hold up to fishing and fish no bother at all, same as any other feather.
You have to be a wee bit canny on prepping the hackle but the good news is you get the 'traditional' schlappen hackle for one or more flies and the 'fluffy plume' section at the base of the hackle for another 'spey' type hackle.
This is a good thing

H

« **Reply #32 on:** 20/03/2013 at 22:11 »

Shi*! , I normally throw those bits oot.

I'll give it a go

Iain

« **Reply #33 on:** 20/03/2013 at 22:16 »

Pleasure to be of service

Give me a buzz or drop me a PM, will explain what I mean about "prepping" the schlappen

H

« **Reply #34 on:** 21/03/2013 at 08:24 »

Quote from: Hamish on 20/03/2013 at 22:16

Give me a buzz or drop me a PM, will explain what I mean about "prepping" the schlappen

Split the stem? Thats what I do on the pike flies, get two hackles then

. I prefer the fluffy Schlappen base as it seems to hold up to teeth a bit better than the Spey plumes, and its a damn sight cheaper.

« **Reply #35 on:** 21/03/2013 at 12:54 »

Rob,
do you fly fish for Pike?

Iain

« **Reply #36 on:** 21/03/2013 at 13:24 »

Quote from: Goolager on 21/03/2013 at 12:54

Rob,
do you fly fish for Pike?

Iain

I get it now...you see, the title of the site is "Fishing the Fly"...

« **Reply #37 on:** 21/03/2013 at 14:12 »

Quote from: Rob on 21/03/2013 at 08:24

I prefer the fluffy Schlappen base as it seems to hold up to teeth a bit better than the Spey plumes, and its a damn sight cheaper.

I've not bought spey plumes but I agree that the schlappen 'fluff' holds up fine to abuse, which is a good thing

Not sure the finish is quite the same as the plumes but really I don't think the fish care too much about that to be honest

Quote from: Goolager on 21/03/2013 at 12:54

Rob,
do you fly fish for Pike?

Iain

smirk

Quote from: Rob on 21/03/2013 at 13:24

I get it now...you see, the title of the site is "Fishing the Fly"...

« **Reply #38 on:** 22/03/2013 at 12:10 »

Hamish,

I gave one a whirl last night and it looks ~~sidney~~ simply devine to my eyes but when I took some photo's it looks... well.... not as yours does, so I didn't post the picture.
Although I'm happy to tie & fish away with the results I'd be interested in your method of prep.

Iain

« **Reply #39 on:** 22/03/2013 at 12:12 »

Quote from: Goolager on 22/03/2013 at 12:10

Hamish,

I gave one a whirl last night and it looks ~~sidney~~ simply devine to my eyes but when I took some photo's it looks... well.... not as yours does, so I didn't post the picture.
Although I'm happy to tie & fish away with the results I'd be interested in your method of prep.

Iain

Will prep a feather or three, take some pics and post them later.

H

« **Reply #40 on:** 22/03/2013 at 15:43 »

OK, small schlappen feather stripped to where I want it for 'spey plume' duty:

Tied in the normal way:

Wound tight:

Almost finsihed product:

Is that any different to what you were doing Iain

H

« **Reply #41 on:** 22/03/2013 at 16:17 »

H,

not a million miles from what I was doing but I see that you have selected a feather with a nice slim stem, my selected one was thicker which gave me (I knew it would) a bit of a head trouble. Not insurmountable but I'll take more care in selection in future.

Top Tip

Iain

« **Reply #42 on:** 22/03/2013 at 17:06 »

Quote from: Goolager on 22/03/2013 at 16:17

H,
not a million miles from what I was doing but I see that you have selected a feather with a nice slim stem, my selected one was thicker which gave me (I knew it would) a bit of a head trouble. Not insurmountable but I'll take more care in selection in future.
Top Tip
Iain

Cool

With the chunkier schlappen feathers you can splt the stalk with a razor blade (other cutting devices are available for those under restriction orders etc) and get two plumes for the price of one. However the catch to that is unless the cape has been really well dyed the chances are you're going to have some white 'stalky shit' left over which is bit of a pain. You can hide it when dressing the fly but I try to make sure I search out the best of the thin schlappen as it saves a lot of grief.

Nice flee by the way.... might borrow that pattern

H

« **Reply #43 on:** 22/03/2013 at 18:28 »

Quote from: Hamish on 22/03/2013 at 17:06

However the catch to that is unless the cape has been really well dyed the chances are you're going to have some white 'stalky shit' left over which is bit of a pain.

run a permanent marker over the offensive 'stalky shit' before tying it in

« **Reply #44 on:** 22/03/2013 at 19:20 »

Yeah, tried that Marc and haven't been satisfied with the results, perhaps it takes more 'penmanship' than I'm prepared to put it in

« **Reply #45 on:** 23/03/2013 at 09:16 »

hi Hamish,
it can't be about 'penmanship' as it's simply a mater of running the marker tip or side of it along the stem. hmmm, maybe the markers you tried weren't up to the job.

cheers,
marc

« **Reply #46 on:** 23/03/2013 at 09:32 »

Quote from: Marc Fauvet on 23/03/2013 at 09:16

....... hmmm, maybe the markers you tried weren't up to the job.

Quite possible Marc, but they were 'sharpies' which are about the best marker pens I've used. Admittedly they're not 'specialist' markers and I'm sure there would be something on the market that would have done the job better. Truth is, I couldn't be arsed finding anything that did the job better

H

« **Reply #47 on:** 23/03/2013 at 14:09 »

fair enough but don't come complaining your "stalky shit" is untidy then....

« **Reply #48 on:** 23/03/2013 at 17:13 »

Quote from: Marc Fauvet on 23/03/2013 at 14:09

fair enough but don't come complaining your "stalky shit" is untidy then....

I haven't..... yet

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