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Sandy Nelson

What rod to use for trout lochs
« on: 27/03/2007 at 22:09 »
Here's an odd question coming from me.
But i have been thinking. Always dangerous and usually expensive :z6

The few times i have fished wild trout lochs and even stocked lochs from a boat i have used my 9ft 3wt or a 9ft 5wt. I have never had much problems and have always caught fish. But having read lots of stuff for years about  this type of fishing and the requirement for a longer rod, i want to know why! :shock:

there are obviously good reasons for the longer rod, so what are they? and what type of rod would be ideal for going off to hill lochs and/or lowland lochs to fish smallish flies.I imagine wind can be an issue (i would prefer the shorter rod for this) I can see a need for heavier line weights for casting sinking lines and lures, but for loch style patterns and floaters/intermediates (at worst) what is the ideal line weight/length?.

Are there benefits to justify a longer rod?

Sandy

Hamish Young

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« Reply #1 on: 27/03/2007 at 22:53 »
I seem to recall we had this conversation over several drifts on Loch Shin a couple of seasons ago  :wink:

For boats/hill lochs I like a 10 foot rod, for some reason I've always had a penchant for #5wts.  I think that's probably because over the years I've found a #5wt will do what I want pretty much wherever I want. Only recently have I been in a position to seek out specialist rods to add to my collection over a single compromise rod.  

The 10ft was a compromise to the single rod as well, I'd probably have an 11ft rod for the job in an ideal world. In a drifting boat and with traditional, or semi-traditional, short line techniques the extra length allows you to 'dibble' more effectively than a shorter rod. Everything justs eems more relaxed with a longer rod, and a day in boat should be relaxed.

As you know very well Sandy I've been trying (even to this day) to find a great 10ft rod between 3-5wt that meets most of the criteria you mention at a price I can afford/justify. If I were to stick my neck out and name a rod I'd say that the Greys Streamflex we played with recently impressed me hugely (another shot would be good  :wink: ).

As to what is the best line weight & rod length combination I'd still have to say that for a 'wild' fishing all rounder then I'd still plump for what my wallet hasn't quite found yet:
A middle to tip actioned 10ft for a 4wt line. However, that's me. Others will differ  -I trust :!: - but I'd suggest that more than anything else fish with what you're happy with, there's not much you can't do with a shorter rod and if longer ones aren't your bag why change :?:

Gee - that was supposed to be a short answer  :oops:

Rob Brownfield

What rod to use for trout lochs
« Reply #2 on: 28/03/2007 at 08:33 »
I was under the impression a longer rod was used on the hill lochs from the bank because wading was normal and bankside heather and gorse was a problem. The longer rod ment you cleared these better.

I used to fish Loch Saugh a fair bit and i used an 11 foot 5 weight. This helped me fish the roadside bank and clear the fence and gorse.

Jim Doyle

What rod to use for trout lochs
« Reply #3 on: 28/03/2007 at 09:00 »
I use 10ft rods for just about everything. Got several different weights, but thats just for when I fancy a change of tactics. The 10ft rods are in some ways a compromie ,I have in the past used 11 and 12ft rods.  I find that longer rods are harder work than my 10footers. I can get the top fly into the surfaceand keep it there or I can pull lures at  speed when needed. I also prefer them for dry fly fishing as they pick up line faster.  for someone looking for a good loch drifting rod fishtec flyfishing have a hardy fred buller for sale at a silly price, just dont expect to blast lines to the horizon with it.  jim

Dave Olley

Long rods
« Reply #4 on: 28/03/2007 at 11:36 »
If building the rod is not a problem CTS blanks do up to 11ft in any weight from 2-10

http://www.ctsfishing.com/affinityone.htm

I have never used one but they get very good reports

Dave Olley

Rob Brownfield

Re: Long rods
« Reply #5 on: 28/03/2007 at 13:08 »
Quote from: "caddisfisher"
If building the rod is not a problem CTS blanks do up to 11ft in any weight from 2-10

http://www.ctsfishing.com/affinityone.htm

I have never used one but they get very good reports

Dave Olley


But its New Zealand....would cost a fortune to ship a blank from there :(

Edit:..no it does not...$41 US dollars to ship to the UK..thats very cheap compared I got charged £20 from a shop in England.

 




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