He wasnt holding that fish ..he was wrestling with it. We have a good day as you know Ian, I enjoy the day as it gives folk who have never caught a grayling before the chance to come along and not feel out of place. I agree that it gives the river exposure but it is worth it when some one gets their first fish ,as happened yesterday. I tend to go to other places on my own or with a few friends, I have photos of 2lb+ grayling some where that came from a stream that some of you have driven over, I would not organise an outing there as it would not cope with it. If any one wants a go at these fish give me a shout and I,ll sort out a wee trip. jim