[Matt Henderson]

silver stoat variants.  I prefer gold ribbing with a silver body i'm not really sure why but I like the colour contrast.  And a wee bit of blue schlappen for the throat oh and artic fox rather than stoats tail for the wing. 





off to start my step by step shortly..

cheers

matt

[Iain Goolager]

Nice Matheus

[Sandy Nelson]

I like them Matt

have you ever tried putting one full turn of the schlappen feather on the collar before the wing.
It gives you a full hackle which looks a bit like a spey style fly and then with the wing over the top, the hackle kicks the wing up in the hair so the fly moves more in the water (great for faster water). Give it a try if you haven't, but dont use any more than one full turn of the hackle. See if you like it

Sandy

[Irvine Ross]

Sandy

Is this the kind of thing you mean? This one is not schlappen just the big end of a Chinese cock cape. I used a turn of grizzle over two turns of black, I think.



Irvine

[Sandy Nelson]

Now that's my kind of salmon fly

love it

sandy

[Irvine Ross]

Sandy

I've been tempted to tie a few without the wing, just a big spider, but I haven't had the courage to part with convention yet. Anybody out there tried it?

Irvine

[Barry Robertson]

Cracking fleee Irvine 

[Matt Henderson]

I like them Matt

have you ever tried putting one full turn of the schlappen feather on the collar before the wing.
It gives you a full hackle which looks a bit like a spey style fly and then with the wing over the top, the hackle kicks the wing up in the hair so the fly moves more in the water (great for faster water). Give it a try if you haven't, but dont use any more than one full turn of the hackle. See if you like it

Sandy

Sandy,

I did some earlier on and the schlappen is too soft and doesn't stand up enough.  I reckon a normal hen or cock hackle would do the job nicely.  I'll post a few pictures later on.

Irvine I've sent you a PM.

Cheers

Matt

[Matt Henderson]

Okay so its not the same fly but very similar its an emerald stoat this time

With a turn of schlappen



With a turn of cock hackle



And a few other flies chosen at random from my big book of Salmon flies

A leslie Peters



A Goldie/Gold Kenny's Killer



and a Red Pearl Ally's Shrimp



cheers

Matt 

[Barry Robertson]

Nice flees Matt, photos are great also 

[Iain Goolager]

Please don't tell me the hackle is too long, it's 01:34
 

Iain

[Sandy Nelson]

Really love the flies Matt

Especially the Kennys killer one, it looks awesome.
I like way the schlappen sits nice and soft, if you tie a couple of turns of thread behind the hackle when you tie it down, like i do with spiders, it will kick up and then do the same with the fox hair and it kicks up too, and you get an effect similar to Kenny's you have there, but with the longer hackle.

Please don't tell me the hackle is too long, it's 01:34
 

Iain

Iain - your hook is too small
You have the right idea though, the hackle is sitting beautifully This fly will catch fish, especially when there are B.W.O's on the go.
Might even be a bit to sparse with the mole, if that is possible Far better than being to heavy though

Love it

Sandy

[Iain Goolager]

Lots of Spiders.

Scared to post photo's as they just seem to be a source of ridicule (you know who you are Superman) and my Mum says to steer clear bullys.

Nah, the battery on my camera has now departed - see what I can do with the other really crud camera.

Iain

[Sandy Nelson]

Wuss!
 

[Ben Dixon]

Sandy

I've been tempted to tie a few without the wing, just a big spider, but I haven't had the courage to part with convention yet. Anybody out there tried it?

Irvine

I haven't Irvine but I know a man who has.  Will who sometimes posts here fishes an endrick spider as a searching pattern for trout and hooks a lot of salmon on that.  Really irritating, he ties them with lots of Cu wire under the body for weight so they look like a nice spider that has eaten one to many McDonalds, ugly chunky fly but they work!!

Ben