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Richard Tong

Don Today
« on: May 28, 2009, 13:34:05 PM »
Rob,

We carry one rod each and adapt the set up to suit. Having said that 95% of our fishing involves targeting what we think are 'large' fish of 2lbs +. Having said that it is relatively easy to discern this if the fishes head breaks the surface to take a dun or something sitting on top of the water. In April on our first trip there were Black Gnats coming down and they do sit on the surface albeit with a far lower profile. We suspected that the fish were on these but their heads were not showing and I recall targeting one with Paul watching and this ended up as a 24" fish. We had no idea it was this large,we could tell it was substantial as the rise form was a fair size but we both thought it was a 2lb-3lb fish tops. I have digressed from your question.

Set up is a 9' rod either 4 or 5wt depending on the wind and leaders anywhere between 12' (very windy)-16' (no wind) ending in 5X (4.9lbs) or 4X (6lbs) which will vary depending on fly size and perceived size of fish. I maintain that with a well tied knot no fish is going to break a 4.9lbs leader on snag free run (though I think that this happened to Ben so shows what I know).  On the previous trip I was broken by the largest Trout I have ever hooked,I saw it jump 4 times and reckon it was over 7lbs but it ran me round a rock and frayed the leader against a rock-nowt you can do about that!

The flies we have had most success with have been Paraduns,Paragnats,cdc and Klinkhamers.

We do a lot of walking,sitting and looking. Pauls Trout he got on Monday of 4lb 7oz I guess many people would not even have spotted. He was not sure it was even a rise but went down to close to where he saw it,waited 20 minutes before it came up again,had a few casts over it,the last of which was dumped down over the fish by a gust. He thought that that was it all over but again waited over 20 mins and it did come up again by which time he had changed fly and got it. So he was successful by good observation and sheer perseverance and patience that not many have. Okay his presentational skills are of the very highest order too! However many of these Trout allow a pretty close approach as the Don is usually of good depth and flow so you can get close(2-3 rod lengths usually) without scaring them.

If things are very quiet and we get a bit bored then Paul is first to change to weighted nymph on point + 2 spiders and prospecting down and across to cover a lot of water(not on a tight line like a salmon fisher though). The rod is held high so there is a bow of line to watch for a take and the fish does not feel a lot of resistance, resulting in more hook ups.

However most of our big Trout are taken on dries and are targetted. We rarely 'fish the water' as this usually results in smaller fish. Obviously once you have a biggie on your sites do not rush things,check knots,watch the rise pattern etc. Many fish are difficult in that they do not hold station (due to the fact that the hatches/falls are not usually that heavy) and traverse a bit so you have to be careful not to line them.Wait with the correct amount of line out,fly in hand and when he comes up try and get your fly over him after a couple of seconds. This can take time!! That massive fish that ran me round a rock took over 2 hours to hook (drag was awful too). If your fly drags a few times and you think he may have seen it it may be a good idea to change (but we have taken fish on flys that they have seen drag previously). Finally these big fish rise slowly and turn down so give them a bit of time before striking.....only experience and missed fish will hone this for you!

It is not everyones style of fishing and you have to be very single minded,but hey its what we travel 700+ miles each round trip for!!

Good luck Rob at Monymusk. Wish it was on my way home. Let us know of any success you have. Reckon that you should be on the water from 9:30pm at the moment. As dusk falls you can get really close. Make sure you have some flys tied with a fluorescent yellow post.

Oh yes we do not do any nymph fishing but that is not to say that it would not be successful but generally if there is a big fish out on station feeding (as opposed to tucked under the bank or a weedbed 'resting') and we have seen him rise we will approach with a dry fly

Hope that this helps,

Richard
Richard

Iain Cameron

Re: Don Today
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2009, 17:26:12 PM »
thanks for this post; very interesting. less fishing, more observation, more fish!

Jockmcsprock

Re: Don Today
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2009, 15:21:15 PM »
Anyone know what the water is like today?  With all the rain just wandered if its a bit mirky?

Rob Brownfield

Re: Don Today
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2009, 15:31:04 PM »
Was that to me? I don't even remember asking..lol Thanks :)

I am planing a trip with the streamers as the weather is pretty poo just now...doubt much will be rising :(
Ok, I admit it, I quite like this salmon fishing lark....

Ben_D

Re: Don Today
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2009, 21:10:01 PM »
The lower Don is o.k just now, I am not long back from Kintore and the water was o.k there, quite low & clear however it will be a bit dirty tomorrow I think, the Sepa gauge at Alford shows 1ft 1" and rising.  fished the Urie this afternoon and it was rising slightly & colouring up by the time I left, stopped at Kintore on the way home and there were trout moving when the wind dropped although I did not see anything that looked to be any size.


Cheers

Ben

Barry Robertson

Re: Don Today
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2009, 22:05:53 PM »
Was that to me? I don't even remember asking..lol Thanks :)

I am planing a trip with the streamers as the weather is pretty poo just now...doubt much will be rising :(

What fly would you class as a streamer ??


Bronzebommer

Re: Don Today
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2009, 22:09:45 PM »
What fly would you class as a streamer ??


Good question, I have been wondering this myself.

Hamish Young

Re: Don Today
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2009, 09:32:28 AM »
Without stealing Robs' thunder, I'd suggest anything big and ugly (and I mean BIG)  :shock
Streamer fishing is a fairly generic term (like dry fly fishing, for example) which covers a wide number of options. Flies like Wooly Buggers, Sculpins, Matukas etc immediately spring to mind but for me the important thing is size over the type of pattern..... probably starting at a 6 and going up from there  :cool:
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Ben_D

Re: Don Today
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2009, 22:32:55 PM »
Got a nice trout this evening on a size 4 black woolly bugger, just over 2lb  :cool:

Not much doing in the way of fly life, the odd sedge, some small midge close in to the banks and a very small number of small olives, water at a good height and just a little colour at Kintore.  Away chasing salmon tomorrow  :grin

Ben







« Last Edit: August 31, 2009, 09:09:41 AM by Ben_D »

Ben_D

Re: Don Today
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 22:41:30 PM »
Another superb day on the Don today, fished at fetternear near Kemnay....

Landed 3 grilse, 6lb, 4.5lb & 4lb on a size 13 gold bodied cascade and lost another at the net that was hooked on a conns sunray shadow stripped at warp speed.  Really nice water and I have always done well here chasing salmon at this time of year, well worth a fish, loads of good fly water, for 25 quid it is a bargain!!

One of the grilse


Being returned


Just after I had relased this fish I saw a huge commotion on the far bank, several parr leaping clean out of the water so I quickly changed lines, tied in a size 2 4x long black woolly bugger and threw it hard at the surface of the water where the disturbance had happened.  The fly was immediately nailed as soon as it hit the surface of the water by a large trout, very large trout!!  :grin

25.75" and weighed at 7lb in my weigh net


Not the clearest image but gives some idea of the girth


Head Shot


Being released


The trout was landed on a 6wt rod and it fought far harder than any salmon I have had on the same rod, in the fast water it was a real struggle to hold on to it, took 6 attempts to net!!  I have caught a longer fish estimated at about 7lb but that was early season and was not accurately weighed so I am calling this one a new PB trout

cheers

Ben

Mike Barrio

Re: Don Today
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2009, 22:50:29 PM »
Excellent stuff ...... Well done Ben! :z16

You deserve that fish and I think we can safely say that you are starting to get a feeling for the Don :wink

Thanks for sharing!
Best wishes
Mike
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Peter McCallum

Re: Don Today
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2009, 23:33:59 PM »
Soooooooooooooooooooperb Ben an absolute cracker well done. really must get up before the season ends

Noel kelly

Re: Don Today
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 06:46:56 AM »
Well done Ben thats some days fishing :grin

Jim Eddie

Re: Don Today
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2009, 07:22:05 AM »
Absolutely, a Red Letter day Ben  :z16

 :z18

Jim
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Richard Tong

Re: Don Today
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2009, 08:58:50 AM »
Ben,

Well done that man! You deserve it for all the graft you are putting in. Superb....truly the fish of a lifetime

Richard
Richard

 




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