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Barry Robertson

DYING PEACOCK HERL
« on: 08/01/2009 at 17:39 »
Anyone know what to use to make the stripped quill go a pale cream colour?
Surely you just dont stick them in a tub of bleech do you?
Any ideas?

Sandy Nelson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #1 on: 08/01/2009 at 19:31 »
Baz

I dont quite understand, the question, do you want the whole quill to be cream? or just half of it like normal?

If you still want it to look segmented, then have you tried stripping standard eye herl and then varnishing it and winding it over a white thread base whilst still wet? It may take on the colour of the thread, I know if you leave a tiny gap between the windings of the thread showing through, then you can extend the paler section of the quill.
This is how i tie Quill Diawl bachs in various colours (i do use dyed eyes though, but they are translucent when wet).
never seen eyes dyed cream or white though.

Sandy

Barry Robertson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #2 on: 08/01/2009 at 19:51 »
Example sake : the fulling mill traffic light buzzer has a quill body but the quill looks a pale cream colour over a black thread!
I thought it was died quill!
Quill being stripped from the peacock eye!

Sandy Nelson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #3 on: 08/01/2009 at 21:44 »

Quill being stripped from the peacock eye!

Always :z16 You get more colour :wink

Sandy

Barry Robertson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #4 on: 08/01/2009 at 21:46 »
Even popped to the shops tonight and got some Jolen wifey hair bleach and still no joy, one day i will show you what i mean as i cant explain it in words  :wink

Sandy Nelson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #5 on: 08/01/2009 at 21:54 »
Piccies help :z16

I'm still getting you :z8

Sandy

Barry Robertson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #6 on: 08/01/2009 at 22:00 »
Ok if you go to this store and search the discription below

http://wellbanklochans.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ewellbanklochans%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2f&WD=traffic%20light&SHOP=%20&PN=FULLING_MILL_FLIES_%2d_SPECIALS%2ehtml%23a256910#a256910

Fulling Mill Traffic Light Buzzer

This is the affect i am after , and the quill looks a pale colour :z16


Sandy Nelson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #7 on: 09/01/2009 at 08:43 »
Sorry baz

Couldn't get the link to work, i get no pictures

I tried this too  http://www.fullingmill.com/catalogue.htm

Couldn't see the fly in there? Mind you it makes a great on line fly box, if you want to see what certain patterns look like, except for the one we want :z6

There must be an image somewhere :z8

Sandy

Hamish Young

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #8 on: 09/01/2009 at 08:46 »
Sandy,
The link doesn't work, but the url is correct, just doesn't like opening. I went and had a look (how sad am I :oops) try http://www.wellbanklochans.co.uk/acatalog/FLIES.html then use the search function and search on traffic light. Works for me  :wink

Hamish  :z3

Sandy Nelson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #9 on: 09/01/2009 at 08:53 »
Cheers hamish

That'll be this one then



 :z16

Sandy

Sandy Nelson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #10 on: 09/01/2009 at 09:12 »
Baz

I've just gone a quickly stripped a quill from a natural peacock eye.
It looks about the right colour, to me anyway



The black is pretty intense on the fly, so either the thread is left a little showing between the gaps, or they have better defined herl than me.
I did wonder if it was just thread for a while, but it has that Peacock herl thing about it ??? It may of course have a black thread or floss rib over the top :wink

Sandy

Dave Mundie

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #11 on: 09/01/2009 at 10:02 »
I recall an article about that fly in a magazine was it trout fisherman or something.

Dave

Barry Robertson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #12 on: 09/01/2009 at 12:37 »
It looks spot on sandy! How about you try and match that photo?
Have tried with alsorts but still dont manage to get that affect  :mad

Hamish Young

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #13 on: 09/01/2009 at 13:01 »
Have you wound the black floss and the stripped herl together :?

Barry Robertson

Re: DYING PEACOCK HERL
« Reply #14 on: 09/01/2009 at 13:07 »
Together ???
I would normally just tie the black in all the way to the bend then catch in the herl , bring the black up in touching turns then rib with the herl :z6

 




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