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Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 15/05/2021 at 23:16
First visit to the Ythan for me this season.

It was a lovely night so headed for the lower half of Gicht.
I looked over the old bridge over the Ythan and was dismayed to see numerous dead trees.Many hundreds all the way down the Ythan ,totally changing the landscape.
Ash die back disease i think.

Headed up to the top of the beat and started to work my way down stream again.
Didn't hook anything of any great size but took many smolts and smaller Browns up to around 9"

I'm sure that there must be some big trout in the Ythan so will keep on trying.


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Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Mike Barrio on 16/05/2021 at 11:18
I found most fish were smaller in the lower half of the beat when I fished it Duncan, it wasn't until I got up nearer the castle that I picked up any better ones. By better ones I mean 'trophy' fish of 8-12 inches, and they were not easy to find  *smiley-smile*

I do remember a trout of around 5-6 lbs being caught a few years back, but not on the fly.

I always hoped it would be a bit like the Ury up there, but that wasn't my experience, perhaps I simply failed  *smiley-grin*

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Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 16/05/2021 at 13:07
It could be that the big fish are simply not there Mike.
Maybe there's just not enough feeding for them and they end up going to sea?

Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Mike Barrio on 16/05/2021 at 16:59
Maybe Duncan, but from Methlick down the way, I'd expect there to be a few decent fish ..... there certainly used to be  *smiley-smile*
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 01/07/2021 at 19:29
Took this hard fighting seatrout from a favourite middle beat the other night.

Darkness and an uncut river bank made landing the fish a real nightmare but luckily it stayed on.
Although i have had bigger fish from the estuary,this is my best fish from the actual river.


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Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Mike Barrio on 01/07/2021 at 20:22
Nice one Duncan  *smiley-smile*
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 01/07/2021 at 22:01
Nice fish Duncan :z16

Eddie
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 02/07/2021 at 05:49
Lovely fish Duncan *smiley-love*
Title: Re: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 02/07/2021 at 14:13
Cracking fish, well done  :z16

Especially with the added risk the jungle esque banks bring.

Looks quite similar to the one I caught last night too  :X2

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Title: Re: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 21/07/2021 at 15:33
Iím planning my first ever visit to the Ythan this friday.
My nephews being dragged off the playstation and will be spinning, with me on the fly.

Hoping for a little advice from anyone familiar with it.

So far the plan is from the north bank but not sure whereís best.
From what I can see on the website the recommended traditional start time from the bank is at actual high tide, is that correct?

Just had the thought in my mind that you would be better to fish  during the incoming tide but Iím sure thereís a logical reason. :z8

My thought was to use a 9ft #5, but could go 9 1/2 #6 /7 or 11í #6/7 and to grab a few tasmanian devils and toby type lures from somers for my nephew and a few recommended flies.

Any recommendations from you experienced chaps on flies & tactics would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Stevie

Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: James Laraway on 21/07/2021 at 15:55
so from my experience ( a good few years ago)  was
 - the best bit was above or just below the road bridge - not sure if you premit allows you there ? It was best an hour either side of low water. Too shallow to spin above the road bridge so i used fly. Just below the bridge its deeper so spinning is just the job
 - for flies I just tied up some 'terrors'. Long shank size 6 or 8s with two cock hackle feathers as the wing. Brown (wing) and gold (body) is very good, and i also found yellow and black (brahama feathers). I tendeded to strip them on a fast sinker....
- for spinning pick up some tasmanian devils as i found them the best ( apart from the obvious sutherland specials)

hope that helps a bit....
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 21/07/2021 at 16:08
Thanks James,

Thatís helpful and appreciated info.

According to the map online, I believe the permit allows above and below the bridge down to the mouth, so good to know I can access where you recommend.
A fast sinking line is now in the bag and terrors added to the list too  :z16

Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: James Laraway on 21/07/2021 at 16:31
the water above the bridge will only go up to your knees at low water but dont let that put you off. The fish sit sit in the very shallow streamy water....
I only even fisher above the bridge 30 mins before and after low tide....
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 21/07/2021 at 17:30
Cheers James,

Quality info and Iíll give that a try before heading home at low tide.
The high tides due at 13:00 so aiming to be there around 11:30am and then fish through the outgoing tide based on that statement on the page of the traditional bank start time being at height of the tide.

Still canít get my head round not fishing the incoming tide but sure someone will explain?  :X1

Could it be to let the estuary fill up with fish before actually fishing and scaring them off entering :z8
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 21/07/2021 at 18:31
Stevie

My experience of the estuary is it can fish on most of the tide, but 2hrs either side of low tide is usually best. The fish move into and out of the river with the tide so the terns are usually the best indicator as to where the fish may be congregating at any given point as they are chasing the same bait fish that the seatrout are after.
Itís good fun :z16

Sandy
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 21/07/2021 at 19:16
Cheers Sandy,

Appreciated info again and now might extend our time to catch the turning tide for an hour or two.

Iíll definitely keep an eye on the terns activity but might not mention it to my nephew, just in case he ends up hooking one  :X1

Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 22/07/2021 at 12:01
If you are fishing the North bank then personally,i would consider the Tonely and just below.
I would spin the first half of the dropping tide,switching to the fly for the second.

I've found that the first few minutes of the incoming tide can be productive but i only give it around half an hour.Maybe depends where you are fishing.

Best tip i can give is to check your nylon regularly.
When i first fished the estuary i used to lose so many Sutherland specials when i fished over the razor sharp mussel beds.

Wish they still made these Sutherlands.They are so deadly.


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Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 22/07/2021 at 14:51
Duncan,

Thatís more greatly appreciated  advice, so thanks kindly  :z16

Yep! Iíd love a few of those Sutherland Specials myself but lost the last two I had in as many casts.

Really looking forward to my visit now and spent last night watching Ďsea trout battle on fyní on YT to inspire me further (well worth checking it out if you havenít seen it) Iíll report back any success or failure.

Cheers  :z18
Stevie


Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 23/07/2021 at 18:28
Anyone contacted these guys?

https://m.facebook.com/Sutherland-Special-104719741870444/posts

Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 23/07/2021 at 21:13
I hadn't heard about them Sandy.
Thanks for the heads up.

Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: James Laraway on 23/07/2021 at 22:21
Be interesting to see if they get it of the ground and how much they are going to charge.
Personally I reckon you could do a weighted plastic version far cheaper than the original alloy (?) version and at less cost but I look forward to seeing the results and good luck to them
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Anyone contacted these guys?

https://m.facebook.com/Sutherland-Special-104719741870444/posts
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Title: Re: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 24/07/2021 at 15:11
The first Ythan trip went ahead as planned with a few slight adjustments and we managed to tie in with a couple of Ythan regulars.

Concentrating our efforts mainly at Tonely and ending down at Craigs point.
As advised here we started off spinning during high tide and I switched to fly fish with the 9 1/2í #6  with a sinking line for the last few hours through to low.

Sadly we only connected with a couple of feisty finnock on tasmanian devils and one pull for me on a sand eel pattern.

It was a  decent warm overcast day but not much bird or seal activity to be seen and heard a few comments from the other regular fishers about the lack of action. An occasional bigger fish jumped here & there to keep the interest.

One guy fishing alongside us was into a decent hard fighting fish which ran hard right past us.
Unfortunately he lost it right at the net.
A sore one for him Iím sure but seeing that kept us going in the hope we might be next.

The nephew & I were fortunate enough to receive a blue & silver Sutherland Special each on arrival which I then tried determinedly without a touch and as Duncan warned it got snagged a fair few times.

Determined not to lose the bugger, I was able to wade in just enough each time to get over it & recover.
Even laying down the snagged rod for an hour and set up another while waiting for a decent drop in tide to get in and work it out a real hard snag.

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These Sutherland Specials were remakes made by a local guy who I believe only makes for himself and a select few friends.
Very nicely made and to receive a couple was greatly appreciated.

Perhaps heís the guy behind the page Sandy shared but either way if they come to be available, Iíd buy a batch as these looked the part and have the action of the original.

All in all it was an enjoyable first visit in good company and a welcome change from the don.

Iíll certainly have another crack at it with renewed optimism & the good advice you guys kindly shared.

Cheers,  :z18
Stevie

Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 24/07/2021 at 23:28
Stevie

That certainly looks like a decent Sutherland.

Pity you didn't get hold of a fish today but next time you might have a bonanza.
Estuary fishing is very unpredictable.

Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 26/07/2021 at 01:35
Estuary fishing is very unpredictable.

Duncan

Yep! Happy to learn the intricacies of fishing the estuary and expect it to be every bit as complex as the river.

One thing Iím contemplating this week is the adaa section, I can get access as a guest with my brother and wouldnít mind a crack there before re-joining next season.
Any thoughts on the adaa section above the bridge?
Worth a try or stick with the more tidal part?

Cheers,
Stevie
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 02/08/2021 at 15:16
Itís just as tidal Stevie
Thereís a really cool channel to fish and Iíve had some great days fishing the ADAA section.
Lends itself nicely to fly fishing too  :z16

Sandy
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 03/08/2021 at 14:12
Itís just as tidal Stevie
Thereís a really cool channel to fish and Iíve had some great days fishing the ADAA section.
Lends itself nicely to fly fishing too  :z16

Sandy

Thanks Sandy  :z16

Sounds like itís my kinda place, hoping to pay it a visit soon.
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 06/08/2021 at 10:37
Came across this old competition literature the other day.
This would have been the first time i fished the estuary and it proved to be a real baptism of fire.

In it's day,this was a big,prestigious event with dozens of competitors.
I hadn't a clue how to fish the estuary back then so inevitably ended up with a blank, despite all anglers around me taking fish on the same Sutherland special i was fishing!

I remember going back to the weigh in and seeing all the seatrout laid out along with some seabass.
I was hooked.





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Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Mike Barrio on 06/08/2021 at 11:00
Great stuff Duncan, that's awesome  >)
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Phil Duncan on 06/08/2021 at 19:03
my old man and munros transport team won that one year..he caught probably the last salmon caught in the competition
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 15/08/2021 at 12:01
ADAA beats have been getting a good cut.
What a difference it makes being able to move around freely and so much easier and quicker to get a fish landed if you are lucky enough to get one.


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A small rise in water last week took in a few seatrout and i managed to get one fairly fresh fish, but the water remains low.
I'm seeing the bow waves of running fish in the shallow water most nights but fishing is hard going.
We need a decent rise in water.

Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Mike Barrio on 15/08/2021 at 21:40
Well done with the Seatrout Duncan, seems a good year for them  :)

Nice pics  :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Paul Adderton on 11/09/2021 at 12:42
Yes, Duncan, the ADAA beats on the Ythan including their new Schivas beat are all cut and ready and waiting for hopefully,  the Autumn run of fish. The Schivas beat will be a new experience for many of the members who I am sure will take full advantage of this new fishery.
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 12/09/2021 at 18:58
That's great news Paul.

Water is up a wee bit but might be just enough to get a few fish to run upstream.

Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 18/10/2021 at 19:41
Not the bar of silver i was looking for but hopefully this good sized cock seatrout will be back guarding his Redd.
He certainly swam straight back to where i'd hooked him after release, suggesting that this was his territory!


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Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Mike Barrio on 19/10/2021 at 10:47
Fingers crossed for a salmon Duncan  :z16
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: James Laraway on 19/10/2021 at 11:22
I do miss an end-of-October close on the rivers.....

up here all the bloomin rivers seem to close by the middle of September........... *smiley-sad*
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Ivor Duffus on 21/10/2021 at 15:59
Seem to be a few about now Duncan. I headed south on Monday and had another blank  :.

But I managed a couple hours on Tuesday afternoon on the Ythan. Nothing all year then 2 in ten minutes and a cracking fresh finnock  :z18


I wonít  feel so bad now if I blank with the Salmon    *smiley-grin*

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Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 21/10/2021 at 21:30
Well done Ivor,I knew you would do well once you had got to know the beats. :z16

Still time to save blanking with the Salmon.There's not many on the go but you just never know when a taker will arrive.

Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 25/10/2021 at 21:14
Things are looking pretty grim on the Salmon front so thank goodness for these wee silver beauties


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Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Ivor Duffus on 25/10/2021 at 21:30
The Ythan finnock are Braw looking fish Duncan 👍.


I managed some late action just after we had a blether. I had to sit in the car a while first to thaw oot. I just had summer layers on ☹️.
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Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 25/10/2021 at 22:03
Cracking fish Ivor.
You're on fire just now :z16

Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 27/10/2021 at 20:25
Started off fishing for Salmon on a middle beat but soon lost interest and decided to head upstream with the trout rod.
The water had risen the day before and i was hopeful that there might have been a good run of finnock.
Thankfully,the fish were there and i had a lovely afternoon's fishing.

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First finnock of the day


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Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 27/10/2021 at 21:51
Duncan,

Nice pics and lovely finnock, I really like fishing for them, great sport on light tackle, well done.

Eddie
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Ivor Duffus on 27/10/2021 at 22:12
Another cracking silver bullet Duncan  :z16.
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Mike Barrio on 27/10/2021 at 23:06
Great stuff Duncan  >)
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Stevie Rennie on 28/10/2021 at 22:44
Well done guys  :z16

Bonnie fish and certainly fun until the big silver unís make an appearance. If itís any consolation they are hard to come by on the next river down too, although I encountered one today that Iíll share in the don thread.

Best wishes for one before closing *smiley-wink*
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 29/10/2021 at 20:54
The river is rising fast at the moment so today could well have been my last day of the season.
I've made the most of the last few days as it's a long,long time till late summer next year when the Ythan will hopefully come to life again *smiley-sad*

Managed a couple of finnock today and a seatrout and finnock yesterday.

Some photos from yesterday


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Duncan
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Ivor Duffus on 30/10/2021 at 08:00
Braw fish Duncan  :z16

Hope it drops enough for a go today.
Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Robert MacDonald-Lewis on 01/11/2021 at 20:54
Lovely fish. I managed to duck out for an hour and a half on Friday afternoon, made brief contact with what I think was a nice finnock.

Did go back on Saturday morning and had a couple of token casts, but it was futile with the river like cold coffee.


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Title: Re: River Ythan 2021
Post by: Duncan McRae on 01/11/2021 at 21:46
A real shame that Saturday was unfishable Robert.
It's always nice to get out on the last day of the season.

Duncan