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Title: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Liam Stephen on 31/08/2016 at 18:26
I received a cool little selection of flies from France a few days back. I've been following Stan's Blog and FB posts for quiet some time now and took advantage of his 10th anniversary offer. Very pleased the quality of the bugs, I'll try them tomorrow.

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2193-310816182502.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=3738)

I might attempt to tie some of my own over winter.

 :z18
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Mike Barrio on 31/08/2016 at 19:52
They look different Liam, will be interesting to see how you get on with them :z16
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Liam Stephen on 31/08/2016 at 21:02
Won't be trying them on running water Mike. Tomorrow is a still water day, hopefully the resident fish approve.

 :z18
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Steven Sinclair on 31/08/2016 at 21:34
Is that all thread body, coated with bugbond or equivalent?

I can't really tell from the picture.

Cheers,

Steven
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Liam Stephen on 31/08/2016 at 21:39
It's lead, paint and bug bond. Looks like a time consuming process but the final product looks worth it.

www.ceramicnymphs.com

Check them out.

  :z18
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Mike Barrio on 01/09/2016 at 12:45
Thanks for the wee nymphs Liam ...... arrived today :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 01/09/2016 at 13:32
Link does not work...but I think its this one http://www.french-nymphs.com/
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Marc Fauvet on 01/09/2016 at 16:55
Won't be trying them on running water Mike. Tomorrow is a still water day, hopefully the resident fish approve.

hi Liam,
for sure, there are no rules (yaya !   :z13) and you just might get some interest on still waters with the ceramics  :z16 however, they where designed for rivers and maybe specifically for faster waters or for 'induced take' presentations on slower flows.

basically, they're attractors with minimalist features yet strong triggers, at least as far as the main body of the bug is concerned.
in other words, for waters where fish don't get a lot of time to inspect the imitation and just gulp down whatever might look like food.
older in design as the spannish Perdigonne style of nymphs, both styles predominantly feature a very smooth, hydrodynamic shape which makes them sink very, very quickly without having to weigh a ton to get there.

be sure to let us know how you get along with them  :z16
ps- watch your drifts or you'll lose them all on the bottom  :wink

cheers,
marc
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Marc Fauvet on 01/09/2016 at 17:10
Is that all thread body, coated with bugbond or equivalent?

hiya,
- they're typically lead wire wrapped on the shank
- then coated with whatever colour of ceramic art paint or a mix thereof. Pébéo seems to be the most popular paint
http://en.pebeo.com/Creative-leisure/Painting-on-China-and-Ceramic/Porcelaine-150-Paint

-  here's a video that shows the process well. its in frog but there isn't much to understand. thing is these paints take about 24hrs to dry so each step needs to be greatly spaced out. the trick is to make dozens at a time  :z16 
https://youtu.be/CX63yU4RTFw
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Liam Stephen on 01/09/2016 at 19:06
hi Liam,
for sure, there are no rules (yaya !   :z13) and you just might get some interest on still waters with the ceramics  :z16 however, they where designed for rivers and maybe specifically for faster waters or for 'induced take' presentations on slower flows.

basically, they're attractors with minimalist features yet strong triggers, at least as far as the main body of the bug is concerned.
in other words, for waters where fish don't get a lot of time to inspect the imitation and just gulp down whatever might look like food.
older in design as the spannish Perdigonne style of nymphs, both styles predominantly feature a very smooth, hydrodynamic shape which makes them sink very, very quickly without having to weigh a ton to get there.

be sure to let us know how you get along with them  :z16
ps- watch your drifts or you'll lose them all on the bottom  :wink

cheers,
marc

Hey Marc

Some good points there. I did originally buy them for use on the Don but am happy to report the Stillwater trout loved them. I had Blues, Browns and Rainbows on the Ceramics.  Fished at close range to fish foraging in the margins. Pretty bloody deadly if I'm honest! I'll do a wee report with pics in a bit.

 :z18
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Andrew Ellis on 08/09/2016 at 12:21
I couldn't be faffed with the lead, painting, baking process so had a play with tungsten and glass beads and UV cure resin last year Liam. They actually worked a treat, especially on the grayling. :z16

Andrew

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/20151110_230200.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/20151110_230200.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_072958.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_072958.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_073230.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_073230.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_073445.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_073445.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_074021.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_074021.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/Mobile%20Uploads/20151028_221432.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151028_221432.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_101439.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_101439.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Bill Wood on 12/10/2016 at 23:23
Looks like I could be raiding the wifes nail varnish box.
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 14/10/2016 at 09:18

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_073445.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_073445.jpg.html)

I have a fair few identical to this that I use as "maggot" imitations on the river for Grayling. Work a treat!

Also tie up a slightly translucent version and a "dirty orange" one.

I had not thought of colouring and UVing them..thanks for an idea!
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Kerry Jordan on 15/10/2016 at 17:50
Those nymphs look like "Smarties" for the trout and grayling - brilliant!
What do you use to colour them please?
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Brian Wilkinson on 16/10/2016 at 00:14
Hi,

From another forum here is the link: http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/fly-tying-patterns-step-step/341441-bead-bugs.html
It comes with all the ingredients.  :z18

By the by I "tied" some of the up earlier, after one or two mishaps with the colour running etc. they started to look good. The rainbows thought so as well but haven't tried them on the Northumberland wbt - yet!

Good luck with them.

Brian.
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Andrew Ellis on 18/10/2016 at 16:13
Yes, sorry, I've only just seen these replies and had pinged Kerry a PM re the colouring and my SBS I'd popped up on 'another forum'.  Probably not 'tying' in the strictest sense, but they do work...

Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Colin Mckinnon on 21/10/2016 at 23:26
I've always fancied fly tying g but keep putting it off after seeing some of the amazing g stuff the guys on this forum do.stunning work (my mum used to tie salmon flys at Sharps in Aberdeen so I'm hoping I'm a natural :-).but I'm thinking these would be a good place to start( and they look great) and get  the confidence up and give it a go.can someone e list the items in the first photo?. Few items I'm totally unfamiliar with . Many thanks in advance
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Andrew Ellis on 25/10/2016 at 22:25
If you're talking about the first Photo in my SBS....

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_103130.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_103130.jpg.html)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Peldonman/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_103139.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Peldonman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151029_103139.jpg.html)

Glass beads (I get mine from a local haberdashers and can let you have some if you PM me your address)

Sharpie markers (for colouring beads)

Bottle of Sally Hansen 'Hard as nails' varnish (from Boots/Superdrug/ A.N.other store)

Bottle of Bug Off resin (eBay is probably as good a source as any) but of course you can use another UV cure resin.

UV Torch

Bobbin holder and thread

Tungsten Beads

Hooks

Think that's everything....

Andrew
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Colin Mckinnon on 27/10/2016 at 19:02
Many thanks Andrew,

Sure all pretty standard stuff to many of the guys on the forum but all still a  bit of a mystery to me   :z8 :z4.
Look forward to sourcing the items and getting cracking over winter

Cheers

Colin   
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Keith Fraser on 24/01/2017 at 10:22
Hi I like bead flies you can get coloured beads I use a bloodworm which is just red beads on a buzzer hook.  The good thing about the coloured beads is you don't get runs when varnishing. This post got my creative juices flowing and I have tied a selection of buzzers for mainly rainbows as soon as I can figure out how to get photos from my phone to my computer I will try to post them.          Keith
Title: Re: Ceramic Nymphs
Post by: Liam Stephen on 24/01/2017 at 11:51
Hi I like bead flies you can get coloured beads I use a bloodworm which is just red beads on a buzzer hook.  The good thing about the coloured beads is you don't get runs when varnishing. This post got my creative juices flowing and I have tied a selection of buzzers for mainly rainbows as soon as I can figure out how to get photos from my phone to my computer I will try to post them.          Keith

Or you can just buy red hooks! Stick a bead on some and leave some without. Simple and deadly, thanks Sandy!  :wink

You should also be able to upload pics from your phone straight into your post.

 :z18