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Title: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Mike Barrio on October 26, 2013, 12:34:49 PM
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_08_06_13_12_08_28.jpeg)

If anybody fancies a fibreglass Epic 580 blank as a winter project, I have a few available in various colours for 195 local hand over, or plus postage at cost :cool:

Send me a PM if interested :wink

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: troutist on November 05, 2013, 18:37:51 PM
A good suggestion! We need to think.
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Mike Barrio on November 08, 2013, 16:12:27 PM
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_08_11_13_4_12_01.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1412)
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Graeme Inglis on December 06, 2013, 22:12:40 PM
Got mine a week a go.
(http://www.graemeinglis.com/gallery3/var/resizes/Fishing-Shooting/IMG_0741.JPG?m=1386269035)

Progress was slowed by a top eye and contrasting thread taking a week to get to me!  :mad
(http://www.graemeinglis.com/gallery3/var/resizes/Fishing-Shooting/IMG_0742.JPG?m=1386269049)
But finished and some of the wrapping done.
Top eye finally arrived and I can get on
(http://www.graemeinglis.com/gallery3/var/resizes/Fishing-Shooting/IMG_0744.JPG?m=1386358604)
I will post up a couple more as it nears completion.

Graeme
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Duncan Inglis on December 06, 2013, 22:34:35 PM
Looks tidy G, you'll have to head down to Harehope & give it a cast!
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Mike Barrio on December 07, 2013, 08:56:35 AM
Great stuff Graeme :z16

Looks like your build is coming along nicely, it's good fun to watch the progress via your photos and I'm looking forward to seeing some more :cool:

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Graeme Inglis on December 11, 2013, 12:17:51 PM

Nearly finished now, just need to give it a coat of lumiseal and the butt a coat of U40 to keep it nice and clean.

(http://www.graemeinglis.com/gallery3/var/resizes/Fishing-Shooting/IMG_0748.JPG?m=1386763420)
(http://www.graemeinglis.com/gallery3/var/resizes/Fishing-Shooting/IMG_0747.JPG?m=1386763444)
(http://www.graemeinglis.com/gallery3/var/resizes/Fishing-Shooting/IMG_0746.JPG?m=1386763474)

Assembled the rod and with Mike's SLX line on the reel had a few practice casts in the garden :X4

I feel a wee shot at the rainbows coming on!

Graeme
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Mike Barrio on December 11, 2013, 12:33:22 PM
Great stuff Graeme ..... Enjoy :z16

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Rob Brownfield on December 11, 2013, 13:53:12 PM
Graeme, see your whippings, they are getting that strange patterning due to a variance in thread tension as you have whipped them on.

If you use a thickish knitting needle and rub the whippings with the end of it, you will even out the tension in the thread and the variations in colour will become more even. It takes a while to do, but it is possible to sort.

However, the rod looks great :), you will have great fun with it and get admiring looks.
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Graeme Inglis on December 11, 2013, 16:59:31 PM
Yeah Rob, it's my home made rig, I will make a MK2 before I do another.  Interesting about the knitting needle, I'll remember that.  I also found that thread with the metal through it difficult to use, especially pulling it back through, it tended to de-laminate so that half was through and half wasn't.  I had to re do a few because of that and again the tension variations didn't help.  But hey its done and it will hold a fish.

Graeme
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Ben_D on December 11, 2013, 20:21:14 PM
What metal stuff did you use Graeme?  I've not used any of the specialist rod wrapping stuff, I got some Madeira metailised thread from Megs Attic in Banchory which seems to work really well.  You do not need a heap of tension with the trim, backing off a bit will help.
I used a piece of thin plastic tube (inner from Veniard Scandi Tube) like a nail knot tool for my trim wraps.  I taped one end of thread up the blank, laid the tube on the blank and wrapped over it and the taped end, then slid the wrapped end back through the tube as I pulled it out.  When just about tight enough to spin on the blank and no more I evened it all up, snugged it against the whippings, tightened and trimmed off the ends.  Bit of a fiddle but got the job done nice & even with no damage to tinsel.

Cheers

Ben

Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Graeme Inglis on December 11, 2013, 22:15:38 PM
Ben this is the first time I have used modern threads, I've only built a couple of rods in the last few years, my previous experience goes back to the 1960's when I used to hand wrap over the knee split cane rods, it seemed easier then. :z6  I am now thinking of modifying my jig and re-wrapping, after all there is plenty of time before the trout season opens.

Graeme
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Ben_D on December 11, 2013, 23:02:31 PM
I've only used modern threads Graeme  :z4

This is what I used as a wrapper http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1220 (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1220)
it's the only thing I have built anything with, I based it on the Pac Bay design and built it using the fairly basic tools I had lying around in the house.  I tried wrapping by hand and found it very difficult indeed.

The ring on the front that the thread goes through really helps with tension, when I have started wrapping a guide and have forgotten to pull the thread through the ring, it is tricky to get even tension.  When doing the metallic stuff I cut a bit off the spool and do it by hand, think if I was trying to do a long trim section I would probably use off the spool though. Been a massive learning curve for me, like tying flies but more critical as the stuff you're throwing together is a shitload more expensive to replace if you need to start again!

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Rob Brownfield on December 12, 2013, 07:40:23 AM
I got some Madeira metailised thread from Megs Attic in Banchory

Be a wee bit careful with the Madeira threads. Some of them are designed for machine embroidery and contain silicon as a lubricant for the needles.

Silicon and epoxy do not like each other.

Also worth noting that the Madeira stuff is a wee bit thinner than normal "A" whipping thread.
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Ben_D on December 12, 2013, 07:45:46 AM
I wouldn't use the standard thread Rob, I use proper wrapping thread.  No issues with the metallics and epoxy I have use so far and I like the fact that they are thinner than most "proper" rob trimming thread, that's a bonus for me!

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Sandy Nelson on February 01, 2014, 16:15:21 PM
Thats our latest Epic finished and looking rather nice , even if i do say so myself :oops

The cinnamon works well with the salsa, especially once the finish is applied.
The reel seat is a nicely figured Rosewood, with Nickel silver and the rings are fine wire snakes.

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/salsa2.jpg) (http://s252.photobucket.com/user/skuesapprentice/media/salsa2.jpg.html)

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/salsa1.jpg) (http://s252.photobucket.com/user/skuesapprentice/media/salsa1.jpg.html)

Hard to get a good close up with artificial light, but you get the idea

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/salsa4.jpg) (http://s252.photobucket.com/user/skuesapprentice/media/salsa4.jpg.html)

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/salsa3.jpg) (http://s252.photobucket.com/user/skuesapprentice/media/salsa3.jpg.html)

This rod is now Available, with the Swift Bag and Tube, contact Mike for more information.

Cheers

Sandy :z18
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Marc Fauvet on February 01, 2014, 16:31:15 PM
Red-Hot Sandy !  :z16 :z16 :z16
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: Ben_D on February 01, 2014, 22:30:54 PM
Nice Job Sandy  :z16
Title: Re: Epic 580 blanks
Post by: troutist on February 10, 2014, 10:20:18 AM
Sweet!