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OK looking for some advice from the forum petrolheads. I am thinking of buying a Dacia Duster as a fishing car, mainly because they are cheap to buy, cheap to insure, cheap road tax and 50 mpg. any opinions on it ?
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Jim
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Hi Jim,
Yes, they look interesting and the 2wd Sandero Stepway looks like it might be useful too. They both look pretty affordable to run, which makes a nice change :z16
Too new in the UK to get any useful advice I guess.
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Jim,
Considering where my Alfa has been over the last week, you don't need a Dacia (Dah-shia,Day-cee-ah, what-evah) :z4
Report to follow...
Seriously though, why not? Cheaper than anything else on the market, good ground clearance and great warranty. Can't ever see beating 130 minutes from Edzell to Beauly but hey ho...! :z7
Must be better than a Focus up an Assynt deer track (eh, Iain?)
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If you can take the depreciation then why the hell not :? I would consider one (a Duster) myself.
They must be OK as they seem to be selling like coke shifts at an oasis gig up here at the moment.
H
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There have been a few lads on the 4x4 forums I frequent who have bought them. Althought the 4x4 version has a "4wd lock" (not diff lock), the drive shafts are a weak point and do not take kindly to sucky mud or sand.
The 4wd "system is from Nissan (they supply the electromagnetic torque converter for shifting power around the wheels), but the running gear is Dacia.
I would think if used for normal fishing (rough tracks/wet fields) it would make a good cheap runabout. If you get one, let us know how you get on please.
Also worth reading Honest Johns report, the 4x4 version is £13k for the diesel, the 2wd, £8995...depreciation on the 4x4 is HUGE but the 2wd is only 34% over 3 years.
Issues with gear boxes reported including several lasting less than a day. Ouch!
Owners reports interesting "The gearbox that lasted one hour's use has been replaced" :z8
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Never had a need for a 4wd ,I drive a Fiesta TDCI, and i have taken it carefully up some strange forestry tracks, I have done 55,000 miles with little or no problems, I did write off a landrover once , My Fiesta has £30 rtax and does 60+ mpg , but good luck with the dacia,easgach 1
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My Fiesta has £30 rtax and does 60+ mpg ,
Show off! :X2
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Show off! :X2
Hey Derek the Dacia is cheaper to buy than your Fiesta :cool:
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Jim
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OK was up in Easter Ross with the family last week, weather was amazing by the way :z12
Anyway, went into Inversneckie and had a swatch of the Dacia Duster, looks fine , more boot space than a Kuga family liked it plenty of room for the rear passengers. You can pick up the top of the range 4 x 4 Demonstrator for about 13K (let somebody else pay for the VAT. I would have bought one however me being 6' 4" the drivers seat just did not go far back enough for me :cry
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Jim
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I would have bought one however me being 6' 4" the drivers seat just did not go far back enough for me :cry
Bummer :z4
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So I bought one of these :cool:
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/12_29_07_13_7_59_44.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1126)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5g8hKwqSEcM
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Jim
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Perfect Jim! :z16
That is a proper fishing car.
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Jim,
good choice, one of the guys at work has one lots of room and goes up dirt tracks easily.
Eddie. :z16
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one of the guys at work has one lots of room and goes up dirt tracks easily.
That's equality in the workplace Ed, :X2
Iain
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Nice, very nice ....... good choice :z16
Cheers
Mike
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Nice motor Jim , much the same as mine but with a differant badge! :z14
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That would be my other choice if I was not a big Subaru Ootback fan.
The Scout is worth the extra cash!
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That would be my other choice if I was not a big Subaru Ootback fan.
The Scout is worth the extra cash!
Rob
Depends where you buy it, I got one in Englandshire, £4k less than exactly the same model from the skoda dealer up here. I have not bought a car in Aberdeen for as long as i can remember.
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Jim
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Rob
Depends where you buy it, I got one in Englandshire, £4k less than exactly the same model from the skoda dealer up here. I have not bought a car in Aberdeen for as long as i can remember.
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Jim
:z16 :z16 Its amazing isn't it. For my last Volvo I was quoted £350+ for a 3 year service in Aberdeen from Arnold Clark, for exactly the same service at Barnetts of undee, £201. How two main dealers can be so different on a Volvo scheduled service I don't know.
I really should go to Norfolk to buy a new car, my father seems to be able to get massive discounts compared to up here.
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I have a Subaru Forester being my second one cannot fault either. Over 10 years there has not been a glitch with the car and I probably average over 10k per year. These have been driven down some awful tracks without an issue and in my opinion is one of the most under rated vehicles out there. The only downside is the fuel consumption but the new recent diesel boxer engines are fairly economical.
Regarding the Dacia my concern is being a new model it has yet to prove itself and I would prefer to give it 12 months or so and watch user reports. If I am correct it is owned by Renault which slightly concerns me for they generally build models to appeal and not last
Anyway that's my tuppence worth
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I am thinking of a diesel Forrester as my next car. I love the Outback but not the new styling so if I want new its the Forrester or XV. The XV looks interesting, but the boot is not great and there is a bit too much excess plastic on it.
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Nice motor Jim, still sticking with the scabby old X Trail for me.
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Had my first fishing trip in the car, well pleased. Approximately 250 mile round trip getting across Aberdeen, some winding Perthshire roads and a 2/3 mile track to the loch. 60.5 mpg average fuel consumption :cool:
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Jim
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Great stuff Jim :z16
What do you think about this? ..... pretty awesome and certainly wouldn't get 60.5 mpg :z4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_0xifuTqVA
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Sounds just like the music from a rave I was at in France many years ago.
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Had my first fishing trip in the car, well pleased. Approximately 250 mile round trip getting across Aberdeen, some winding Perthshire roads and a 2/3 mile track to the loch. 60.5 mpg average fuel consumption :cool:
that's excellent. Out of interest, did you look at/compare the Yeti too?
cheers
iain
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Not in any great detail Iain, to be honest don't really like the look of the Yeti
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Jim
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Sounds just like the music from a rave I was at in France many years ago.
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Hi Jim
A friend also has a diesel Octavia Scout, they are great cars.
Like you, he get fantastic MPG. To get this performance and economy from a good sized estate car that will also take him to most of the places he shoots is just great.
They are almost the perfect fishing car in my book.
Kev.
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They are almost the perfect fishing car in my book.
Kev.
Almost Kev but you need a Surf or similar with a 2" suspension & body lift to save you Muiring it off road. How's your gear selector held on just now and what happened to it? Please remind me :z7
Ben
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Yeah, wot he said.........Kev you divot!
Iain
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Stop your complaining, it was only a mud guard :lol. and anyway, it was driver error (on your part Mr A).
Did you not watch Bullseye on the telly in your youth, "stay out of the mud and on the track" or something like that :z4.
That track was almost as flat as a bowling green this year (in some very short sections):z4
Kev.
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..... did you look at/compare the Yeti too?
Can't speak for Jim but my new works 'toy' is a Yeti 4x4 TDi SE (140) and it's good. Damn good.
H :cool:
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60.5 mpg average fuel consumption :cool:
I bought a "eco" diesel a few years back for the work run, small, 4 seater and paid a whopping £3k for the super efficient engine.
I never once got abouve 52mpg despite a promised 72.4mpg!
60.5 is superb, and you will get a few more as the thing beds in.
Maybe I should look at one rather than the diesel boxer Subaru
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The diesel Scooby isn't all that good on jungle juice Rob, torque is a wee bit low too compared to a conventional 4 cylinder TD.
However, it is a super smooth engine if a little thirsty compared to other TDs.
Depending on what happens with work I might be looking at a Forester soon, at the moment they're hard to find without a slushbox though :z6
H :cool:
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The diesel Scooby isn't all that good on jungle juice Rob, torque is a wee bit low too compared to a conventional 4 cylinder TD.
However, it is a super smooth engine if a little thirsty compared to other TDs.
Depending on what happens with work I might be looking at a Forester soon, at the moment they're hard to find without a slushbox though :z6
H :cool:
I have no issues with buying a Subaru with an auto. I have one now...superb! Also, you get better MPG, around 2-5 over a manual. I was a bit worried about an auto in snow and ice having had an auto disco, but the subaru version is amazing when it gets iffy.
I average around 32-35 mpg with the petrol, and with petrol being cheaper, service costs being cheaper, the fact they are £2k cheaper than a diesel to buy and only 8-10mpg less than the diesel, I may buy another petrol as I do like the boxer engine (mine is a 2.5). Cass is getting around 38 mpg from her 2.0 boxer. There are everal online running cost calculators that show over a 3 year period, the petrol works out cheaper is averaging 15k a year.
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Can't speak for Jim but my new works 'toy' is a Yeti 4x4 TDi SE (140) and it's good. Damn good.
H :cool:
Hamish
One thing I had against the Yeti was that the Scout had a third more boot space. I looked at the Kuga as well but again short on boot space.
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Jim
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No argument there Jim, the boot space in the Yeti is fine for putting the shopping in but sh1te for fishing tackle (especially Salmon rods) :roll
It is quite an accomplished all-rounder though :z16
H :cool:
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No argument there Jim, the boot space in the Yeti is fine for putting the shopping in but sh1te for fishing tackle (especially Salmon rods) :roll
It is quite an accomplished all-rounder though :z16
H :cool:
Skoda don't make bad cars Hamish :wink Audi technology at Ford prices :z16
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Jim
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Skoda don't make bad cars Hamish :wink Audi technology at Ford prices :z16
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Jim
Sorry to disagree Jim but my Octavia estate was a dog :oops cost me a fortune on repairs (dual mass flywheel, turbo, brake calipers) in less than 12 months....... needless to say just after my warranty ran out. Got shot of it after the computer started going crazy.
Other than that it was a brilliant car :shock
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Or you could have Nissan design at Alfa prices Jim :z4
(http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/alfa_romeo_arna_5-door_2.jpg)
Might look ok in red?
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Sorry to disagree Jim but my Octavia estate was a dog :oops cost me a fortune on repairs (dual mass flywheel, turbo, brake calipers) in less than 12 months....... needless to say just after my warranty ran out. Got shot of it after the computer started going crazy.
Other than that it was a brilliant car :shock
There is always the exception to the rule Peter :shock Things have moved on since the 70's :z4
Ben :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4
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Jim
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Currently working on a Safe Driving course and was pointed to this video for reference to stability control and "the moose test".
About 1:10, the Daci Duster 4 x 4. Errrm, no thanks!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAPa3flxuG8
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Not much room for gear?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pku3-Xo-3-c
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no probs if you consider it a two-seater.... :z4
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Not much room for gear?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pku3-Xo-3-c
Looks impressive Mike, guy made a good point about the M + S tyres though, a lot of the "Chelsea Tractors" with road tyres are pants off road.
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Jim
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Low mileage Freelander 2.0 TD4s 2005 ....... Good second hand buy or not?
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_17_09_13_11_29_12.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1248)
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I know a guy in Arbroath with a 4x4 Octavia with around 45k on it for £4k.
PM for details if you are interested.
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Low mileage Freelander 2.0 TD4s 2005 ....... Good second hand buy or not?
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_17_09_13_11_29_12.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1248)
Aoto Express likes them Mike, although not cheap to run I beleive.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/freelander-2/reliability
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Jim
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Aoto Express likes them Mike, although not cheap to run I beleive.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/freelander-2/reliability
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Jim
That's probably because the vast majority of them never leave tarmac. When I was running one regularly on forestry roads the rubber mounting points for the suspension wore out very fast and I had to replace the bearings on the rear drive shaft twice. The air conditioning never worked from the day I bought it. Also the cargo space is very small, you would struggle going on holiday with 4 people plus luggage. Mine was the earlier model and I don't know if they made any real mechanical changes to the mark II. Not a car I remember fondly.
Irvine
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I know oneguy locally with a Freelander 2 TD4. Was in good nick when he bought it, had loads of issues, rear drive train, fuel system. Other than that it seems like a nice motor. Dear to fix when they go wrong.
Get a Surf and a decent set of hammers, far better option. Mine is very rarely in the garage, I've doneabout 126000km in it and for a truck of its age nothing really has gone wrong or needed doing that you would not expect to have to do as routine maintainance. Cylinger head cracked but that is a know issue with the engine and the replacements are modified to correct the issue.
Ben
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i just got an X-trail.its got loads of room 4 wheel drive and diff lock and getting well ito the 40s to the gallon.its an 04 plate and there plenty for sale
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Mine is very rarely in the garage,
Thats coz you are always fixing it out on the driveway! ;)
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Low mileage Freelander 2.0 TD4s 2005 ....... Good second hand buy or not?
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_17_09_13_11_29_12.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1248)
Get a good one and they are great. Two of the lads in the band have them, one a 1.8 petrol, the other a TD4. Both are used for towing a caravan, both are high milage and both have been fine.
Get a bad one, and they are expensive.
They are surprisingly good off road, but as mentioned, best to replace all bushes and mounts with Polybush substitutes.
The latest version is a considerable improvement.
Would I buy a secondhand one? Only if it had full Landrover service and ALL receipts. :)
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I passed on the Freelander and went a bit latin instead :z13
I still have a feeling that my time will come for a Landrover ...... one day :z4
Cheers
Mike
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I passed on the Freelander and went a bit latin instead :z13
Please tell me you haven't bought H's Alfa?!? ;)
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It was a bit quiet on the forum for a while tonight :roll ....... Hmmm, maybe 'Strictly' has started again on the telly? :z4
Cheers
Mike
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Please tell me you haven't bought H's Alfa?!? ;)
No, it isn't H's Alfa :z3
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I passed on the Freelander and went a bit latin instead :z13
I still have a feeling that my time will come for a Landrover ...... one day :z4
Cheers
Mike
Dude, you're too old for a Gaylander. Bypass that expense and go straight for the Volvo XC90 :z4
If you are getting a Land Rover then get an older defender, still pants but at least they are fixable without a PC.
Cheers
Ben
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Dude, you're too old for a Gaylander. Bypass that expense and go straight for the Volvo XC90 :z4
If you are getting a Land Rover then get an older defender, still pants but at least they are fixable without a PC.
Cheers
Ben
Hammers again Ben :z4 :z4 :z4
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Abso'kinlutely Mike :z4
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I passed on the Freelander and went a bit latin instead :z13
Seat or fiat? Or a mexican VW beetle...
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Mike..... did you buy a Sedici :shock :?
H
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It's very white and Spanish :z16
Cheers
Mike
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Dude, you're too old for a Gaylander. Bypass that expense and go straight for the Volvo XC90 :z4
If you are getting a Land Rover then get an older defender, still pants but at least they are fixable without a PC.
Cheers
Ben
Ben,
I have a 30 year old Defender, do not diss my fishing car, it may not be fast and it may not be warm and it may not have brakes and maybe it only does 14-18 mpg but it will go anywhere and can carry loads of shite and it is long enough to sleep in the back.
Eddie. :z7 :wink
P.S,
Mike,
what have you bought?
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Mike..... did you buy a Sedici :shock :?
H
Thought never entered my mind H :z4
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We used to live in Leon Eddie ..... :wink
As for the Landrover .... my time will come :z3
Interestingly, for all the "don't buy" comments ...... there's an awful lot of Freelanders on the road and not many for sale :cool:
Cheers
Mike
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Mike, the older 1.8 petrol Freelander was a dog. Head gaskets were a real problem if you did a lot of heavy towing. The TD4 version is superb.
The other issue with Freelanders is that the sorts of people that bought them were the sorts of people who did not know what a diff is, that each axle has its own oil supply, that its fitted with an intermediate reduction drive or that the 4wd system worked of a viscous coupling...and so on.
So, they take them to KwikFit (insert any generic cheap highstreet garage staffed by 17 year olds) to get serviced. The engine oil gets changed, and thats it. Everything else is not on the check list for the mechanic, so its not done. So, unless it has a Landrover or Landrover Specialist service history, dont touch them :)
I have seen the new Freelander 3 out in Aboyne "under wraps" in its fancy black and white "camo". It takes a lot of styling from the Evoque. Found a photo without the crap on it....its going to sell VERY well!
(http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/article_main_image/public/landrover_freelander-static.jpg)
(http://www.landrover-center.com/sites/default/files/front/250160.jpg.crop_display.jpg)
PD. If you want to see Land/Range Rovers future models, for some reason they have been using Deeside as a testing ground. This time last year I saw the new Rangeie Sport and the HSE "stretch" out there.
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Hi Rob,
The one I was looking at was the facelift TD4 in the photo and it had excellent Landrover servicing stamped in the book ...... Too late now, I've bought a car :z4
Cheers
Mike
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The one I was looking at was the facelift TD4 in the photo and
?? That is not due out until 2014/15
Have fun with the Seat...was near the top of my list for a new car...funky and efficient, unlike my Volvo which is a bit like an ex girlfriend, curvey in all the right places but drinks like a fish ;)
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My photo Rob :z4
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Big boys toys :z12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKOaF7esBFY
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Perfect Mike, just not enough room for the rods :z4
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Just listen to this when it fires up :z16
Still room for a few rods in the back too :z4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg6WdboK1nY#t
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see ? told ya a van was the shiz.... :wink
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You going to get yours converted to this engine Marc? :cool:
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wouldn't leave enough room for the mattress in the back... :X2
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Many many years ago, Essex Police had one of these
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Ford_Thames_Van_1956_-_Flickr_-_mick_-_Lumix.jpg
but with a tuned 3.0l Ford Essex V6 under the bonnet. Thats the same engine that was used in TVR's. The boys at dagenham had built it for an experiment/laugh and Essex Police thought it would be good as an un-marked wagon for catching speeders on the A13.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHqEsZgku-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-IaYXJrDjo
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Currently advertised on Ebay for about 8K by a classic car specialist and in great condition ..... Is this your perfect fishing wagon?
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_27_04_14_1_34_38.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1981)
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_27_04_14_1_35_07.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1982)
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_27_04_14_1_37_16.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1983)
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add a disco-ball in the back and it's perfect ! :z4
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I could actually live in that! Imagine the summer you'd have, work Monday to Friday hit the road Friday afternoon......hmmmmm.
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Did you buy it yet Noel?
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Stick Orvis on the side, then wait for a 40% off sale ;)
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best to leave the rod rack at home... :z4 :z4 :z4
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And that is why the Nurbergring has a reputation!
I cannot believe the luck of some of the people in those crashes!!
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Interesting just how many of those cars that rolled were rear engined :!
Couple of really rare motors in that clip..... guess they're rare as folk kept rolling them.......
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This would have made a really cool little fishing wagon :z12
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/daihatsu-mud-master-c (http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/daihatsu-mud-master-c)
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_30_09_14_11_51_57.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=2222)
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A bit smaller than your van Marc :z4
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heck, it looks even smaller than my city car... :X2
this thing is really goofy but i like how the sides open though :z16 :z4 :z
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speaking of car stuff, check out this rear gear vault. :cool:
http://www.ginkandgasoline.com/fly-fishing-gear/a-truckvault-offers-the-ultimate-in-function-convenience-and-security/
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I really like the idea of a 'chunky looking' wee van, that is economical to run and cool enough to be your daily vehicle, but also 4WD and in that kind of size, capable of going just about anywhere :cool:
As anybody that has driven a Bedford Rascal, Suzuki Supercarry etc will know, they are a pig to keep on the road in the wind and you wouldn't feel too safe hitting something head on :z4 ........ but I'm sure things could be improved safety wise.
Cheers
Mike
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so, you don't mind all the laughs from people passing by ? :z4
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They do that anyway Marc :z4
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poor Mike ! you need to get a blow-up Rich to stick in the passenger's seat. :z4
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I really like the idea of a 'chunky looking' wee van, that is economical to run and cool enough to be your daily vehicle, but also 4WD and in that kind of size, capable of going just about anywhere :cool:
As anybody that has driven a Bedford Rascal, Suzuki Supercarry etc will know, they are a pig to keep on the road in the wind and you wouldn't feel too safe hitting something head on :z4 ........ but I'm sure things could be improved safety wise.
Cheers
Mike
We nearly bought a 4WD Mitsubishi Delica "Spacewagon" a few years back as an adventure van. Amazingly good off road, all the seats turned into beds and it even had a sink and cooker in it. It was so tempting, but even with a diesel engine it only managed 20-25mpg :(
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I remember seeing this advert years ago, when I sold Wynn's products :z4