Fishing The Fly Scotland
Index => Tackle Talk => Topic started by: Rob Brownfield on 25/03/2013 at 20:42
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So, anyone seen/cast one yet?
The price is attracting me and I would like to think Mr Mackenzie is not going to put rubbish on the market. Ben, you must have had a shot of one?
I am looking at a 14 or 15 footer and this is just in my price range if I sell my other kidney.
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Rob I have had the 15' Perflex prototype for two weeks of *ahem* testing. I have had my hands only on the 15' Perflex and a couple of the new single handers from Scott.
To be honest I have not seen the Perflex in fully 'ready to market' specification but what I tested (production blank with DTX 'fittings') pleased me greatly :z16 It was more than happy with everything I put on it from a Skagit and heavy tips chucking 'big shit' down to wee flies on a floater.
I should have been assessing it more and fishing with it less, but it was so nice to use I sort of.....errrr...... fished with it. A lot.
Definitely a very accomplished all-rounder in my less than skilled hands, I'd say the rod is softer in the tip and in action than my own DTX 'Spey' and the G2 that replaced it. I got some big distances out of it without really trying, felt like second nature and I like that in a Salmon rod.
In that price band I think you'd have a hard job finding something that feels so immediately comfortable, it's like picking up an old friend.
I liked it a lot - obviously :wink I think I can guarantee you will too and (again) in that price range I think it will do very well indeed.
Go buy one Rob :z17
H :cool:
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Thanks Hamish, how much commission do you get? ;)
Right, I had better sort out my fishing room and get some stuff sold to make way for it!!
I tried to find some info on them on the MacKenzie website but nothing on it which is frustrating. I am not even sure of the sizes they do yet.
Thanks again.
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Thanks Hamish, how much commission do you get? ;)
Ha - I'll put that idea to Scott :! No, what happens (from time to time) is that Scott lets me play with some of the new toys before they go to market. Let's face it, if a ham-fisted idiot like me is vaguely representative of the market the rods will go to then it makes sense to see if I can break them. I have that reputation - apparently :shock
Right, I had better sort out my fishing room and get some stuff sold to make way for it!!
Yes.
I tried to find some info on them on the MacKenzie website but nothing on it which is frustrating. I am not even sure of the sizes they do yet.
The Perflex will come as a 13'#8wt, 14'#9wt and 15'#10wt. None in UK stock at the moment which probably explains why they're not up on Scotts website yet, but will be there soon enough :z16
H :cool:
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Stock expected to be here mid to late April, I have the full range on pre order so as soon as they are available I'll have them on the shelf.
Cheers
Ben
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Is this the one you recommended for me Ben ? If so will have to pawn a guitar methinks ! :X1
Lindsay
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It is Lindsay :z4
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It is Lindsay :z4
Cheers dude, I'll see if I can raise the dosh, but will probably be next season so no big rush.
Lindsay
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15 footer for me then please :)
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15 footer for me then please :)
I'm sure you'll like it :z16
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an approximate price range please ?
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Not gospel as these things can change quickly but I think they'll be on the market from £300 up to around £350 Marc.
H :cool:
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targeting the unemployed then. interesting marketing concept ! :z16
:z4,
marc
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Not gospel as these things can change quickly but I think they'll be on the market from £300 up to around £350 Marc.
H :cool:
£289 for 13' #8
£309 for 14' #9
£329 for 15' #10
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I notice there are huge reductions on the current DTX's obviously in preparation.
Awesome value at these prices, looks like a good time to buy a Superb Fishing rod.
http://www.fishingmegastore.com/mackenzie-dtx-double-handed-fly-rods~1366.html?&clearance=1
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Sandy
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I notice there are huge reductions on the current DTX's obviously in preparation.
Not entirely accurate that my colleague, the DTX G2 replaced the original DTX last year, so remaining DTX stock is on a clear down in retailers.
The Perflex is an all new mid-price range and shouldn't be confused with any of the other MacKenzie range.
Awesome value at these prices, looks like a good time to buy a Superb Fishing rod.
Agreed they are absolutely a bargain, fantastic rods at that price.
H :cool:
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So, the next question has to be, wait for the Perflex or by the older DTX at a slightly higher price?
Ideally, I would be using it with shooting heads.
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I would wait for the Perflex as it is, after all, new to the market.
But if you see yourself mainly fishing with shooting heads why not buy a MacKenzie shooting head rod :z17 :z16
H :cool:
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But if you see yourself mainly fishing with shooting heads why not buy a MacKenzie shooting head rod :z17 :z16
Cost! :z10
If I did not have a feather bonnet :oops to buy I would go for the DTX Shooting Head rod.
My other option is to go for the 14' 6" version of the Guideline Scandi style rod I already use, but I cannot find one on the market..and they are the same price as the MacKenzie DYX SH anyway.
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Rob,
There is no stock in the country as yet, to my knowledge they have not even been shipped from the factory yet, they should be here in approx 2 weeks. I'm not sure that GAC advertising them already has been well received........
The difference between the DTX SH rod and most Guideline rods is that the DTX bends deeper when pushed rather than almost locking up half way down the blank which makes it far more versatile. Forget the whole "shooting head rod because I fish heads" thing. Buy a decent rod with a progressive action and it will cast any line you care to put on it.
Cheers
Ben
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The difference between the DTX SH rod and most Guideline rods is that the DTX bends deeper when pushed rather than almost locking up half way down the blank which makes it far more versatile.
Now thats interesting as I found a piece about my Guideline (Act 4) written by one of Scotts DTX Pro Staff in the US who said Guidelines (Act4 and Exceed) had a nice through action compared to other rods and it was nice to have a rod with a deeper action as they are more versitile :) He seemed to really like the Act 4 12' 6" 8/9 which is the one I have.
I am off to buy a rowing boat and gill net...so much easier!!
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I'm not sure that GAC advertising them already has been well received........
Not the only place advertising either. http://www.pmgtackle.com/Double-Handed-Fly-Rods-Switch-Fly-Rods/Mackenzie-DTX-Perflex-Double-Hand-Fly-Rod
This lot are in Ulster.
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Yes Rob, we are aware of this. There is no stock, as soon as it lands I will let you know!! :z4
Do you fly fish for pike Rob?
Cheers
Ben
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I am off to buy a rowing boat and gill net...so much easier!!
I might have a boat for you if you are serious :wink
Cheers
Mike
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Do you fly fish for pike Rob?
It going viral! :z4
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I feel an inferiority complex coming on, not being part of the MacKenzie club.
Maybe next year. :cry
Iain
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I might have a boat for you if you are serious :wink
If its the only way I am going to see a silver tourist this year, then you're on!! Not even seen one move in the river yet, maybe Saturday.
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If its the only way I am going to see a silver tourist this year, then you're on!! Not even seen one move in the river yet, maybe Saturday.
Get your finger out, chuck some gear in the Toybaru and get up here tomorrow. I'm fishing on the Ness at Dochfour, when I last checked there was one rod left and that'll cost you £47 including the booking via FishPal.
There's fish about too and the low water/cold conditions make Dochfour a real possibility for a springer, worth the trip as more fish have been caught :wink
H :cool:
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Hamish,
best of luck on the Ness, I am fishing closer to home tomorrow and Saturday on the Dee just below Banchory. I will be chucking a line with a Mckenzie shooting head rod.
Go on Rob get your wallet out you know it makes sense, a man cannot have too many toys.
Eddie.
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Get your finger out, chuck some gear in the Toybaru and get up here tomorrow.
I wish...work beckons I am afraid, but I have next week off so hope to sneak a few hours in on the Don/Dee.
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Got the full range of Perflex in stock now.
Cheers
Ben
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To late...bought a secondhand one!! £250 off of Gumtree. 5 hours use ;)
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To late...bought a secondhand one!! £250 off of Gumtree. 5 hours use ;)
Really :? :! I am surprised one found its way there so quickly. What length :?
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Really :? :! I am surprised one found its way there so quickly. What length :?
Nah..I did not buy it :X2, but there was one on Aberdeen Gumtree, 15 footer, chap says he bought it, used it one day and now wants to sell.
Was tempted though...going for the Shakey Oracle Scandi instead me thinks.
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Nah..I did not buy it :X2, but there was one on Aberdeen Gumtree, 15 footer, chap says he bought it, used it one day and now wants to sell.
Was tempted though...going for the Shakey Oracle Scandi instead me thinks.
Yeah, I'd get the Shakey too Rob. The perflex must be crap if some guy sold it after five hours use, I hear the Shakespeare is the same blank anyway, some guy on a forum told me so ZX3
(For anyone else reading this, I am taking the p*&s)
Good luck Rob, no comparison but you get what you pay for! :wink
Cheers
Ben
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http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/scott-mackenzie-15-ft-perflex-10-salmon-fly-rod/1022570605
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Jim
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Too late Jim
Rob bought it, or maybe he didn't or perhaps it turned out to be a new spinning rod for Pike ZX3
why?...................... ZX2
Sandy
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Good luck Rob, no comparison but you get what you pay for! :wink
You do indeed, but sometimes you find a gem.
For a rod I will use maybe 5 times a year, I cannot justify a £300+ Perflex although I did enjoy casting with it.
£150 is a little easier to swallow.
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Fair enough Rob, get some tennis racket tape to go over the handle on the Shakey so it does not disintegrate on you. Not a bad blank but possibly the worst cork I have ever seen on a salmon rod!
Cheers
Ben
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Fair enough Rob, get some tennis racket tape to go over the handle on the Shakey so it does not disintegrate on you. Not a bad blank but possibly the worst cork I have ever seen on a salmon rod!
The two I have seen have had superb cork.
You know I am extremely fussy about cork and it is not the cheap rods I have had issues with in the past.
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The two I have seen have had superb cork.
You know I am extremely fussy about cork and it is not the cheap rods I have had issues with in the past.
Seen a good number of these through teaching Rob, cork on every one has been crap to absolutely appaling and I know several guys who have returned them after a few uses due to the handle dropping to bits. Make sure get a look at the one you want to buy rather than get it mail order, yes it may cost you an extra 50p and some fuel but it will be worth it.
Cheers
Ben
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Seen a good number of these through teaching Rob, cork on every one has been crap to absolutely appaling and I know several guys who have returned them after a few uses due to the handle dropping to bits. Make sure get a look at the one you want to buy rather than get it mail order, yes it may cost you an extra 50p and some fuel but it will be worth it.
Cheers
Ben
Are you talking about the new Scandi or the older IV...because there is a world of difference in the finish.
There were two Scandis at the Legion last wednesday with a group of anglers up fishing (look out for an online rod review). They had the 14' 9" and one of the Exp versions along with perhaps 20 other rods that they had pooled together. Of that group of rods (From the £150 Scandi to close on £1000 Hardys, the Scandi was middle of the rod in finish. There were £300-£400 rods with worse cork/finish.
My heart is not set on the Scandi, but its an option. I have not seen the final production Perflex so who knows, I may fall in live with it!..lol
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Are you talking about the new Scandi or the older IV...because there is a world of difference in the finish.
Both Rob. Possibly hit & miss and depends upon what is available at the factory at the time of production, you know how much decent cork costs!