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Title: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 03/12/2012 at 23:06
As title......................  A photo

(http://i49.tinypic.com/votyrn.jpg)

be amused - or don't be, but it still remains - a photo

Iain
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Peter McCallum on 03/12/2012 at 23:06
Really nice.  :z16 :z16
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Hamish Young on 04/12/2012 at 08:54
Very 'arty', well done.

H :z3
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Ben Dixon on 04/12/2012 at 12:00
Not bad iain :z16

Do you not have photoshop though?  I'm sure you could have lightened it up a bit, kind of hard to see anything!!

Ben
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 04/12/2012 at 12:31
Oh! that's dissapointing. On my works monitor it looks very dark too :shock

Due to printing some of the loons school Autumn Project pictures and them turning out too dark I decided to purchase an IPS, wide viewing angle monitor and a calibration tool. This shows photo's in fantastic detailed colours (and at the correct brightness).

Unfortunately I'll have to see if there is some way of saving a copy for web browsing as opposed to a print quality version.?

Anyone any experience of this?

Iain
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Ben Dixon on 04/12/2012 at 12:37
Dude, I was joking. 

You can even see all of those irelevant bits that Magnus was talking about, you know, the bits my camera is not good enough spot on any setting.


Ben
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Allan Liddle on 04/12/2012 at 15:58
(http://i47.tinypic.com/ra6urt.jpg)

This any better?  Should be a wee bit lighter without losing the desired 'feel'?

Like the pic Iain, keep 'em coming.

Cheers

Allan L
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 04/12/2012 at 16:21
Iain,
I like the first one.

Regards,

Eddie.
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Irvine Ross on 04/12/2012 at 17:48
Yup, the fist one is better.  The sky is much more dramatic with the deeper colours.

 :z16
Irvine
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Mike Barrio on 04/12/2012 at 18:06
Me too ...... Great stuff Iain :z16

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Matt Henderson on 04/12/2012 at 19:01
Nice work dude!
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 04/12/2012 at 19:09
Thanks guys,

I've a few more general shots to post but I'll have to try and ensure they show as intended first.

Iain
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Noel Kelly on 04/12/2012 at 19:19
Very nice Iain. Kinda sums up those end of season evenings :'( :'(
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 04/12/2012 at 21:37

Alan, that's overly bright on my normal tv monitor (original looks ok on it too)

I'll try a white one

(http://i48.tinypic.com/15rd4qb.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Mike Barrio on 04/12/2012 at 21:43
Wow ..... nice :z16
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Allan Liddle on 04/12/2012 at 22:09
Yup agree Iain, was simply offering a version with a 'sharper' foreground.  In that instance, given you were trying to capture the dramatic sky, it wasn't in keeping with the original.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Sorry

Allan
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 04/12/2012 at 22:37
(http://i45.tinypic.com/25k4qqw.jpg)

Guys, here is a photo from Assynt fishing trip. If I can ever figure out how to find some manipulation software that I can understand then I can sort the blown out sky. Not as good as Iains but it does keep you going through the winter when the broonies are unavailable.

Eddie
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 04/12/2012 at 23:12
(http://i47.tinypic.com/35b6tdv.jpg)
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 04/12/2012 at 23:18
Iain,
what software are you using and does it require a degree in computer science or can auld mannies like me figure it out?

By the way the tree picture was great.

Eddie.
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 05/12/2012 at 00:00
Hi Eddie,

I always import a picture to develop in Adobe Lightroom, there is a gradient filter in there (amongst many other manipulation tools) but I then opted to open it in Nik efex HDR pro (a Lightroom plug in) for no other reason than to have a quick shufftie of the picture in the various presets - there is also decent grad filter sliders in there too.
One such preset looked quite nice although more fanciful than the original tone of the photo, but it's all a bit of free artistic license anyway - so I saved it with that preset then back to lightroom where I reduced the volume of baron sky with a crop.
Noticed some dust specs on the photo so opened it in in Adobe Elements and removed them along with a bit of I'm not sure if it was wispy cloud or whatever up in the top right of the photo, added a quick border and converted to JPEG.
A pro would have I'm sure made 100% better go of it and if it was my picture to edit then I'd have spent much more time on it but it lets you see what a novice can do with a few decent programs and access to youtube.

The photo is actually quite good, bit of a blown out sky and dark foreground but a nice picture all the same.  :z16

Iain
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 05/12/2012 at 00:05
Iain,
thanks for that. I guess i might ask santa for some new toys for the computer and play with them over the winter. I see lots of great opportunities for photos when I am wondering about in the highlands but I do not yet possess the skills to replicate what I see into an image.

Eddie.
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 05/12/2012 at 00:22
Eddie,
It's probably not the best idea to take advice from a novice when looking for a sound direction to take but here's what I'd recommend, for what it's worth.....................
Spend the money on a photography course BUT only after getting your head round the basics from books or the web as you'd want to be spend your time productively picking the instructors brains on technique rather than figuring out how to change settings on your specific camera, etc.
It's so much easier bringing out the best in a decent 'out of the camera' composition with tiny tweaks here and there than having to bring Frankenstein to life.

Adobe Lightroom 4 seems to have a huge following and for good reason, if I had to recommend one program then it'd be that one - followed by Photoshop Elements 11 (which is the latest but I have version 10).

Have an ask around and check out the Net. 

Happy hunting

Iain
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Steven Sinclair on 05/12/2012 at 02:11
Iain,
thanks for that. I guess i might ask santa for some new toys for the computer and play with them over the winter. I see lots of great opportunities for photos when I am wondering about in the highlands but I do not yet possess the skills to replicate what I see into an image.

Eddie.

Dad, I'll get in touch with Murray, whom I am sure would be more than willing to show you the ropes! What that man doesn't know about photoshop etc isn't worth knowing! I'll ping him a mail and get back to you.

 :z18

Steven.
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Matt Henderson on 05/12/2012 at 11:06
Eddie,

The way it was described to me was photoshop can edit out the spots on your face or in Iain's case a few pounds here and there  :oops. With Lightroom you can make overall changes to a photo like Iain has demonstrated. I think in ideal world you would use both in parallel but at the moment I'm loving Lightroom.

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Irvine Ross on 05/12/2012 at 14:52
On the other hand, you can just let it be :z8

Sunrise this morning

(http://i49.tinypic.com/otzy39.jpg)
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Mike Barrio on 05/12/2012 at 15:38
Nice one Irvine! :z16

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 05/12/2012 at 16:17
On the other hand, you can just let it be :z8


I quite agree, when does nature ever provide you with perfection, if you are capturing the world around you, it should look like the world around you.
Maybe i'm a touch anal about these things, but when you start messing with "A Photo" it becomes art and then we are on a different subject IMHO.

However i do really like all the photos on the post :z16

Eddie, what type of camera did you take the Assynt one with? I think the original one looks like scotland and i love it, the doctored version looks like New Zealand from a magazine, Nice piece of Art but doesn't make me feel like i want to be there :z8

Sandy
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 05/12/2012 at 18:20
Horses for courses Sandy but it's well know that what the camera records is not exactly what the eye sees.

All photography is digital art

God males better sensors than Nikon.  :z7

Iain
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Mike Barrio on 05/12/2012 at 18:26
I think we need amber polarising filters :z4 Amber sunglasses certainly brighten up an otherwise gloomy day!

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 05/12/2012 at 18:28
Amber nectar is more in order at the moment  :z4

Iain
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Allan Liddle on 05/12/2012 at 18:29
Agree with that Sandy, but then again it depends on the camera, settings etc to truly capture the world around you as it truly is.  A wee bit of photoshop can help tidy up, but agree too much can alter the photo away from what you were trying capture in the first place.
In the end all photos are subject to interpretation, any photo taken, edited or not, is a form of art and each of us will like some more than others.

All good pics btw, really like the 'drama' from this morning's shot, and the Assynt pic simply because i love it there, the rugged beauty is always spectacular.
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Mike Barrio on 05/12/2012 at 18:32
Every picture tells a story! :z16
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Irvine Ross on 05/12/2012 at 19:36

God males better sensors than Nikon.  :z7

Iain

Aye but this one is made by Panasonic :wink

Irvine
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Mike Barrio on 05/12/2012 at 19:40
 :z4  :z4  :z4
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 05/12/2012 at 19:54
Sandy,
it was taken with a Nikon D5000. This was taken 2 years ago with the kit lens that came with the camera. I have a dedicated wide angle lens nowadays for landscapes and I am getting a little better at it now. I still do not use any editing software but I spoke with Matt earlier today and he has given me a link to a guy in Aberdeen to get some tuition from so I will spend some money on tuition and take it from there. I agree with everybody on the fact that we are spoiled up here with the scenery and the light.

Eddie.
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 05/12/2012 at 20:42
Quote
Aye but this one is made by Panasonic

Ah! the Lords own choice Irvine.

from the book of ACTS
"for the Lord he did speak in leisurely council with Hedros the king of Panasonia. Aramaic preamble came so gently to the king that bestowed on him was the gift of divine pixelation"

It's true

Iain
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Matt Henderson on 08/12/2012 at 18:51
Just to add my point of view. There is yet to be a Camera that can capture the same level of contrast as the human eye can. Also the human brain is a clever thing and what you perceive to be a bright blue sky is actually that washed out colour that ends up in your average photo however your brain and endorphins trick you into believing it's a much brighter blue. I like to edit to get it back to how I remember it to be not always how it shows up in a photo. I agree there is a fine line before you tweak it too much. But I firmly believe there is a place for post processing of digital photos.

That Barry O'Flynn had a cracking photo in the Evening Express on Thursday.

Matt
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Mike Barrio on 08/12/2012 at 19:21
Barry O'Flynn

 :z4  :z4  :z4
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Mike Barrio on 11/12/2012 at 09:11
This morning, as the camera saw it :cool:

Cheers
Mike

(http://fishingthefly.co.uk/sunrise111212.jpg)
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Irvine Ross on 11/12/2012 at 10:20
Did you roll over and point the camera out of the bedroom window?

Irvine :z12
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Mike Barrio on 11/12/2012 at 10:29
It's a hard life Irvine, but somebody has to do it  :z4  :z4  :z4

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: A photo
Post by: Iain Goolager on 14/12/2012 at 18:42
Nice photo Mike, been on a course for a few days and been fortunate to be in the car when the sun has been rising,  amazing possibilities on Tues, Wed & Thursday...........then today arrives and so does the cloud & rain  :mad

Iain