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Title: Bibios
Post by: Iain Goolager on 13/08/2011 at 10:45

 Fresh off the press..............

(http://i56.tinypic.com/25r01z4.jpg)

Iain

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Euan Innes on 13/08/2011 at 11:11

I like that a lot.  :z16
Last weekend there were clouds of Hawthorn flies in my neck of the woods so that should look tasty to a trout.
I have it in mind to do something similar with black ice dub  :wink

 :z1

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Barry Robertson on 13/08/2011 at 12:51

Nicwe flies Iain, perfect for your new 5 sweep  :z4
Liking the photography alot  :z16

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Peter McCallum on 13/08/2011 at 17:02

Only problem I can see is the ribbing being knackered by the first trout to take the fly, I had that problem with shipmans till I started using crystal flash (I think) its fine pearly woven round a fine nylon core which stops the fish shredding the rib. From the look of your spiders it will be a problem. :z14

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Derek 365 on 13/08/2011 at 17:54

Quote from: rabbitangler on 13/08/2011 at 17:02

Only problem I can see is the ribbing being knackered by the first trout to take the fly, I had that problem with shipmans till I started using crystal flash (I think) its fine pearly woven round a fine nylon core which stops the fish shredding the rib. From the look of your spiders it will be a problem. :z14

I was speaking to someone the other day about the fine pearl rib on my Shipmans and Big Red dries , the faded lettering on the label says 'Twinkle Krystal Flash' but it's different to yours Rabbitangler it's a hank of single strands of twisted pearl and i think it's about 15 years old.

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Noel Kelly on 13/08/2011 at 19:06

Loving the photos Iain :z16

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: John Reid on 13/08/2011 at 19:14

Very nice Iain.  Have you invested in a mini photo studio?  :z14

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Iain Goolager on 13/08/2011 at 19:15

Hi Peter,

That's not mirage rib it's tin foil! I was up all night filing it to shape.  :z4

You know me Peter - one fly one fish, fair trade I think.  :wink

Iain

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Iain Goolager on 13/08/2011 at 19:18

Hi John,

no mini studio, have a look at Scratch & cap'n fishys' intro to photography on the Fly Fishing Forum.

Iain

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Ben Dixon on 13/08/2011 at 22:24

Quote from: rabbitangler on 13/08/2011 at 17:02

Only problem I can see is the ribbing being knackered by the first trout to take the fly, I had that problem with shipmans till I started using crystal flash (I think) its fine pearly woven round a fine nylon core which stops the fish shredding the rib. From the look of your spiders it will be a problem. :z14

Never seen Krystal Flash like that, only seen it in hanks.  I've had the same issues with flat tinsels over bodies like that.....

Try using less dubbing, twiswing on the the thread looser and wrapping the shank more loosely so when you do wind the rib, it bites down further into the body material. Also stretch the mirage tinsel before winding then wind as tight as you can get it.  You may need to go up from small to medium tinsel as the stuff become finer when stretched.  Other thing to try would be a counter rib of 10lb(ish) fluoro.

Cheers

Ben

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Peter McCallum on 13/08/2011 at 22:49

Counter rib is good, Not sure if I spelled Crystal flash propely or as per the american way  :z4 :z4. could have been twinkle, I'll check out my hank and report back.

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Mike Barrio on 13/08/2011 at 23:05

Me likes those! :z16

Cheers
Mike

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Iain Goolager on 13/08/2011 at 23:17

(http://i55.tinypic.com/i2tu6u.jpg)

Yeah, that's constructive Mr Dimetrodon!! >:(

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Ben Dixon on 13/08/2011 at 23:29

Quote from: Goolager on 13/08/2011 at 23:17

(http://i55.tinypic.com/i2tu6u.jpg)

Yeah, that's constructive Mr Dimetrodon!! >:(

Dude,

You get sick of Bob the Builder tonight?  :z4

Ben

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Noel Kelly on 13/08/2011 at 23:34

Quote from: Goolager on 13/08/2011 at 23:17

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Yeah, that's constructive Mr Dimetrodon!! >:(

Tut tut loose the date Iain. What would cap'n fishy say :z10

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Barry Robertson on 14/08/2011 at 19:22

Quote from: An Chuileog on 13/08/2011 at 23:34

Tut tut loose the date Iain. What would cap'n fishy say :z10

Spot on Noel , i am sure the word amateur springs to mind!
Tut tut iain, you must try harder  :z7

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Iain Goolager on 14/08/2011 at 19:55

(http://i54.tinypic.com/9zrk9f.jpg)

Go get em Rex

Iain

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Noel Kelly on 14/08/2011 at 21:33

Iain why do you own little rubber dinosaurs? 

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Barry Robertson on 14/08/2011 at 21:35

I heard he has a big collection of rubber toys!  :z4

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Noel Kelly on 14/08/2011 at 21:46

Man I dont wanna know!!! As long as he doesn't start taking them fishing with him...
Ps I just googled rubber gimp suit's so I could add a "funny" pic but now my eyes are bleeding and I want my mammy. There are some seriously strange people in the world...

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Iain Goolager on 14/08/2011 at 22:11

Quote

I just googled rubber gimp suit's

Why Google it if it's in your 'favourites'?   :z8

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so I could add a "funny" pic

Yeah right! shopping for replacement tubing chesties more like!  :z4

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Ben Dixon on 14/08/2011 at 22:27

Quote from: Goolager on 14/08/2011 at 22:11

Why Google it they're my favourites, I've got a cupboard full, should have just had a walk over

Closer to the truth  :z4

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Noel Kelly on 14/08/2011 at 22:39

Spot on Ben :z16 but Iain's cupboard of "pre loved"rubber suits....not a good thought. I'm so sorry I started this now...   

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Ben Dixon on 14/08/2011 at 22:43

Yeah,

How did a thread about Bibio spiders fall to the depths of pre loved gimp suits and rubber toys  :z4

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Iain Goolager on 14/08/2011 at 22:49

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2pziryf.jpg)

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Ben Dixon on 14/08/2011 at 23:03

 :z4 Mate that's worrying, you need to get out more.

I'd offer to take you out fishing or something if I was not scared shitless about being out alone with you. 

Contact these guys
(http://www.thelegacy-rainbowhouse.com/images/Variety-bus-1.jpg)

They may be able to help you  :z4

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Iain Goolager on 14/08/2011 at 23:11

 :z7 :z4

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Hamish Young on 15/08/2011 at 07:43

This thread just gets better and better  :grin

H  :z3

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Iain Cameron on 15/08/2011 at 08:01

Quote from: Hamish on 15/08/2011 at 07:43

This thread just gets better and better  :grin

H  :z3

they were nice flees too!

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Jim Eddie on 15/08/2011 at 19:47

Quote from: iainCameron on 15/08/2011 at 08:01

they were nice flees too!

I'll second that about the flees, better keep aclose eye on your fly box if i'm about Iain  :wink

 :z18

Jim

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Liam Stephen on 15/08/2011 at 20:01

You guys are something else  :z4

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Allan Liddle on 16/08/2011 at 11:58

 :z4 Heading to the Don soon so if i meet someone fishing in a 'Gimp' mask i'll have a fair idea who it is.  :z4

Back to the flees.  Try either an underbody of black thread and then the tinsel over with the body dubbed very sparse over this (final rib of black thread).  This lets the colour 'bleed' through but protects from troot teeth damage too quickly.

Or tie as my Bibio Emerger body: (sparse)

Black seal / rabbit / green glister (choped fine) mix front and rear thirds with scarlet seals fur middle ribbed with black tying thread.  This gives the flash required via the glister (green better than pearl by the way) as well as offering a robust tying. Two, sometimes ever three fish  :z4  Nah to be honest i wouldn't know as i tend to stick mine in the trees or bushes long before any troot are interested.  :z4


BTW the rest o the Bibio Emerger is:
Head Two turns white cock trimmed below (no jokes please  :z7)
Hook size 12 to 16 B400 (or fine wire barbless equiv).

Try it as well without the red bit (Simply called the Black and White) or with claret instead of red (Claret bibio). Was up all night thinking the name for that one.  :z4

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Offthebard on 16/08/2011 at 17:08

The Welsh like to tie bibios with orange rather than the red.

The locals on the Wye and Severn swear by it and it prouduces well on the rivers for both brown and seatrout.

I like the idea of a Claret Bibio Allan :z17 may try tying a couple for my trip North.

The Bard.   

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Allan Liddle on 17/08/2011 at 10:06

Do them as Hoppers as well. (Size 12)  Heather Flies everywhere up here at the mo and the troot are taking a shine to them.

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Ewan Lindsay on 17/08/2011 at 22:57

These heather fly things were out and about at Haddo today (see photos).  Your Bibios would have worked well I'm sure.  I had over a dozen brownies on a Black and Claret Half-Hog/Sedgy/Hopper thing (It was Black with legs and a Claret body! - Mike knows it's real name!).

(http://i52.tinypic.com/o09x8y.jpg)

(http://i51.tinypic.com/25s2a9c.jpg)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/2vxhilz.jpg)



Ewan

Title: Re: Bibios
Post by: Mike Barrio on 17/08/2011 at 23:23

Hi Ewan

The fly was a 'Half Hog" :z16

Cheers
Mike