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Title: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 04, 2011, 18:51:24 PM
Easy one this ..... answer the fly fishing general knowledge question correctly and the person that asked it will give you the go ahead to ask the next question in the quiz :wink

So, to get things going ...... What is a "winding check"?

Cheers
Mike

PS: If somebody gets the answer right but has not posted a new question within 15 minutes of getting the go ahead ...... anybody that wishes can play "the joker card" and jump in with the next question :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 04, 2011, 19:01:35 PM
Its like a washer on the rod end of your cork handle, where the blank go's into the handle.

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 04, 2011, 19:06:31 PM
Correct, that's it Jim, well done :z16

Ok, you get to ask the next question in the quiz ..... make it as easy or difficult as you like :wink

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 04, 2011, 19:09:27 PM
What are the two main tributaries of the South Esk ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Ewan Lindsay on February 04, 2011, 19:19:38 PM
The Prosen and Noran Water..?

Ewan
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 04, 2011, 19:24:20 PM
Correct  :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Ewan Lindsay on February 04, 2011, 19:37:09 PM
Weh Hey!  I only found that out this week reading an article on the internet.

Right then, next question:

It is said that "The Compleat Angler" is the 3rd most printed book in the history of the English language, but who wrote it?
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Gordon Zola on February 04, 2011, 19:41:01 PM
Izaak Walton
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Ewan Lindsay on February 04, 2011, 19:45:29 PM
Spot On :z16

Over to you...

(The King James Bible and the Book Of Common Prayer, in case anyone was wondering!)

Ewan
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 04, 2011, 20:11:35 PM
If somebody gets the answer right but has not posted a new question within 15 minutes of getting the go ahead ...... anybody that wishes can play "the joker card" and jump in with the next question :wink

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 04, 2011, 20:24:43 PM
OK as Gordon has left the building  :wink

The Tay hold the record for the largest Salmon caught in the UK

Which river in the UK holds the record for the largest fly caught Salmon ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: bordertroot on February 04, 2011, 20:43:09 PM
Was that Mrs. Morrison on the Deveron ?

Bob
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Garrigan on February 04, 2011, 20:43:25 PM
The Deveron?

 :z18
Paul
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 04, 2011, 20:48:24 PM
Tiny Morrison on the Deveron, not a big river but the 5th most prolific Salmon river in Scotland , some great Brownies as well  :z16

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Ewan Lindsay on February 04, 2011, 20:52:56 PM
Didn't the Deveron hold the Fly caught river Brown Trout U.K. record as well?  10lbs+?

Ewan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: flybox on February 04, 2011, 21:30:11 PM
Hi Guys,

I know of a 14lb brown, which was caught on the spey near aviemore. Not sure if it was on fly though.

Here's a question for ya.....

Can you name the islands on Loch Leven? I'll give you a start. There are 7 in total and i'll start you off with the most famous, Castle Island.

Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Garrigan on February 04, 2011, 21:44:36 PM
Hi Guys,

I know of a 14lb brown, which was caught on the spey near aviemore. Not sure if it was on fly though.

Here's a question for ya.....

Can you name the islands on Loch Leven? I'll give you a start. There are 7 in total and i'll start you off with the most famous, Castle Island.

Cheers
Paul

Iknow one is called St serfs?? There is a successful club named after it.

Paul
Title: Re: General Knowledge Fly Fishing
Post by: Ben_D on February 04, 2011, 22:15:13 PM
Its like a washer on the rod end of your cork handle, where the blank go's into the handle.

 :z18

Jim

It's the bit Rob is always waiting for or can't get when he is building or rebuilding a rod isn't it?  Is that the right answer?  What do I win  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: flybox on February 04, 2011, 22:16:16 PM
Hi Paul,

Yes that is another one. I used to be a member of that club when I lived in Kinross, not such a big club now but still going I think.
So we have St. Serfs and Castle Island, any other takers?
Let me know when you give up!!!!!!!

Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 04, 2011, 22:18:33 PM
St Serfs, Alice's Bower, Reed Bower, Scart, Castle Island, Green Isle, Scart (Sunken Isle  :wink)

Ok here's one

What famous Salmon river runs into both the North Sea and Atlantic Ocean at the same time?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: bordertroot on February 04, 2011, 22:29:03 PM
Oh!
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Gordon Zola on February 04, 2011, 22:29:53 PM
sorry  :oops
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 04, 2011, 22:34:44 PM
Give up yet?  Whinbush / Broontroot need not apply as i know they know the answer twe this one.  Thought Bordertroot would have nailed it though.

Gordonzola has been told but he wiz probably too pished at the time to remember  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: flybox on February 04, 2011, 22:44:33 PM
Hi Guys,

Big Al (dryflee), i'm shocked.....you missed one!! Only one Scart!!

Think....beside Alices Bower, lol

Paul
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: flybox on February 04, 2011, 22:57:28 PM
Hi Again,

I'm guessing the answer to Dryflee's question is the River Tweed  :z8

I await being shot down in flames!!!! :oops

Paul
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 04, 2011, 22:58:15 PM
Shite  :cry

Had to think fur ages goin through them all and couldnae get it, the went 'Ah Ha' Roys Folly?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 04, 2011, 22:59:18 PM
No even close Paulo.  A bit further North
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 04, 2011, 23:09:23 PM
Dunno Allan ..... Thurso? :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 04, 2011, 23:16:47 PM
Sorry Mike too far North this time.

Second clue:  Enters the North Sea in the Moray Firth and Atlantic West of Fort Willie
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 04, 2011, 23:50:10 PM
I notice everybody is leaving me to get it wrong here :z4 ...... err, can I try the Lossie Allan?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Ben_D on February 05, 2011, 00:16:52 AM
I'd guess at the Morriston?

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 05, 2011, 05:40:32 AM
I think it is the river Ness .
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 05, 2011, 08:33:51 AM
Strikes me that the common link is the Caledonian Canal, so let's look at the well known rivers in the system:

It cannot be the River Ness as it flows out to the Beauly Firth as a river in its own right and does not feed the Caledonian Canal with water, although Loch Ness does form part of the canal.

It cannot be the River Lochy as it flows into Loch Linnhe as a river in it own right and does not feed the canal with water although Loch Lochy does form part of the canal.

As the canal draws its principal water supply from the lochs that make up the system (Lochy, Oich, Ness and Dochfour) a reasonable argument would be that it's one of the rivers that feed into Loch Ness, Loch Oich or Loch Lochy..... but it cannot be one of the rivers that feeds Loch Ness as water from the canal comes down into Loch Ness at Fort Augustus via the lock system.

That also neatly excludes Loch Lochy which means it can only be a river that feeds water into the canal system at the canals highest point above sea level and one where, potentially, water could go either SW to Fort William or NE to Inverness.

So that means it can only be the River Garry that feeds Loch Oich as Loch Oich is the highest point in the canal system.

H  :z3

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 05, 2011, 09:15:57 AM
Nope still no right guys.  Hamish is starting to think along the right lines regarding interference from man, but not a canal.

However now i've given that clue i not only need the river name but also details of cause
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 05, 2011, 09:49:28 AM
In that case I'd have to plump for the Spey as the river (albeit loosely the Spey) and the Lochaber hydro-electric scheme that was set up to provide the electricity required for the aluminium smelting plant at Fort William.

To provide the necessary water for the hydro scheme a number of dams and tunnels were built, the link is between Loch Treig and Loch Laggan. Water from the Spey was diverted to Laggan and then via tunnel to Treig,  the water supply comes through miles of pipe from Treig to the Alcan works at Fort William (you can't miss the pipes coming down off Ben Nevis) and enter the River Lochy at a spot called the 'Tailrace' where I've had many a battle with Salmon.

If that's not it I'm scunnered  :cool:

H  :z3

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Garrigan on February 05, 2011, 11:00:55 AM
I'll have a punt at the Forth?? :roll

Paul :z18
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 05, 2011, 12:46:38 PM
Do the North Sea and the Atlantic Ocean meet, or is the North Sea part of the Atlantic Ocean? :z3

It's a while since I last went to school :z4

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 05, 2011, 14:16:13 PM
Final answer = River Tummel

The River Tummel runs a picturesque 58-mile course from Loch Rannoch to the River Tay in Perthshire, passing through Pitlochry, which includes a salmon ladder at Pitlochry Dam. 

The Tummel is a dam release river . The upper Tummel flows from Dunlastair Water (E of Kinloch Rannoch) into Loch Tummel and the Lower Tummel flows out from Loch Tummel to Loch Faskally near Pitlochry, etc , etc .

If not, give up .

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 05, 2011, 14:51:21 PM
Correct Hamish go to the top of the class  :z16

Spey through abstraction at the Spey Dam flows through Loch Crudichan (sp? close enough :z4) then vis Loch Laggan and the Spean out to the Atlantic, as well as directly down Strathspey to the North Sea.

The only hydro abstraction of a major water way that runs out east and west as all the others i know of run out into the same body of salt (albiet often in two different locations) or back into thier original system after a wee detour (Upper Garry eg)

Right Hamish your turn fur the next question.

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 05, 2011, 15:54:16 PM
Cool  :cool:

I'll make it an easy one  :wink

Which is the shortest river on mainland Scotland and why is it not the shortest river in all of Scotland :?

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 05, 2011, 17:50:02 PM
Is that the Morar Hamish? ...... I think the Scavaig on Skye is the shortest?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 05, 2011, 18:57:53 PM
Well done Mr B  :z16

Over to you  :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 05, 2011, 21:08:36 PM
Cool .... Cheers Hamish :z16

Where is this photo?
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/zdon060807a.jpg)

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 05, 2011, 21:34:14 PM
Is it the Don at the bridge from Inverurie to Port Elphinstone ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 05, 2011, 21:37:12 PM
Aye, running a bit higher than normal ..... well done Jim :z16

Over to you ....................

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: bordertroot on February 05, 2011, 22:10:16 PM
Is that the Morar Hamish? ...... I think the Scavaig on Skye is the shortest?

Cheers
Mike
Stewards enquiry please :z14 :z14,what about the Sandwood coming out of Sandwood loch :z4 :z4.

Bob
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 05, 2011, 22:22:15 PM
I can see why that might come up, but the wee burn coming out of Sandwood is not classed as a river wheras the other two are. Also, though not in recent times, the sands breach and the loch goes brakkish again.
Lovely spot, been there a few times.

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 05, 2011, 22:39:03 PM
Is that the loch up on the west coast with the long beach, looks awesome! :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: bordertroot on February 05, 2011, 22:44:23 PM
Aye,
Just a wee bit humour Hamish,despite its fame the loch isnt heavy fished,but maybe like me all they caught was bandies.
Some lochs north of it are worth a wee cast,but check for `practice` times.
 :z2
Bob
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 06, 2011, 05:57:34 AM
OK Joker played.................

Primarily their names are known for their fly reels.   A father  and his two sons were all reel manufacturers .
Their  advert said  ' A POSTAL WILL BRING IT ' .   They took out many Patents for reels .

Which famous company was this ?

Cheers,  Pete
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 06, 2011, 08:31:40 AM
Youngs?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 06, 2011, 10:23:15 AM
J W Youngs would have been my first guess too but I thought there were three sons :? I dunno, I might think about this some more  :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 06, 2011, 12:02:53 PM
Not Youngs , but they were famous in their time .  The reels are very collectable nowadays .
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 06, 2011, 12:09:00 PM
So it's not Hardy Brothers and Farlows either..... hmmmmmm.

Tricky.

American perhaps :?

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 06, 2011, 12:10:24 PM
You are on the right track..............
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 06, 2011, 15:33:07 PM
I will have a guess at Orvis as they were the forerunners of mail order.

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 06, 2011, 17:18:57 PM
Interesting, I thought of Orvis but decided that the phrase 'a postal will bring' is a bit 'old school' even by American standards and as their (Orvis) mail order growth only really happened after the Perkins family took over I guessed Orvis was a non-starter..... hmmmm  :z6

I thought it might be Bogdan, Charlton or Thomas & Thomas, but the only one of those companies had brothers (T&T).

I'm stumped :shock

H  :z3

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 06, 2011, 19:21:43 PM
' The Postal will bring it ',  referred to their catalogue .

Famous - on par with Hardy . If I had a sackful of the reels I would be rich .
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 06, 2011, 19:42:59 PM
I'm stumped on this one too ...... Vom Hofe?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 06, 2011, 19:47:48 PM
Only one I can think of on a par with Hardy would be Abel Reels started by Steve Abel in 1987.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 06, 2011, 19:52:55 PM
Correct Mike -  Edward Vom Hofe.  If  you come across one at a car boot sale buy it .


Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 06, 2011, 19:55:44 PM
Look at these beauties ..............

http://www.fowlerperiod.com/reels_09.html
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 06, 2011, 20:03:12 PM
Well done Pete that was a good question , got us all thinking, and well done to Mike for geting the correct answer  :z16

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 06, 2011, 20:16:02 PM
Correct Mike -  Edward Vom Hofe.  If  you come across one at a car boot sale buy it .



Must confess that I had to have a look through some of my books to come up with that one :oops

OK, next question ...... What is the metal joining piece of a bamboo / cane fly rod called?

Checks
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 06, 2011, 20:27:00 PM
Mike do you mean split cane  :z4 is it a spigot ferrule ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 06, 2011, 20:29:35 PM
Great stuff Jim .... over to you :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 06, 2011, 20:33:23 PM
What is the literal translation of the Japanese fly fishhing method know as Tenkara ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 06, 2011, 20:35:47 PM
from Heaven or from the skies

looked it up after seeing a tenkara fly by a young tyer on this very site
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Bronzebommer on February 06, 2011, 20:37:21 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenkara

I was thinking about cheating!!  :oops
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 06, 2011, 20:40:48 PM
Correct Peter  :z16 Goodness this is a great thread for expanding our general knowledge , pity fly fishing questions never come up in pub quizzes  :cool:

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 06, 2011, 21:00:32 PM
Ok. Here goes!!

Who invented the 'Gentile' fly & what unusual sizes did he tie them in??
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 07, 2011, 19:42:09 PM
Ok. Here goes!!

Who invented the 'Gentile' fly & what unusual sizes did he tie them in??

Stumped ..... No idea :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 07, 2011, 23:18:30 PM

 Hi All,
            T C Ivens.

:-)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 07, 2011, 23:32:35 PM

 Hi ,
        Assuming that I was correct.


        Who originally invented the "Cul de Canard " in the late 1950's .

         Clue:   He was French .

          Paul.

       
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 07, 2011, 23:40:10 PM

Hi Pete,
               Incomplete answer to yours , sorry . 16 - 11 . A maggot imitation.  Very good on the Urie !!
Paul.

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 08, 2011, 00:07:09 AM
Dunno but i'll guess Jaques Custeaux?  :z4
Sorry Paul.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 08, 2011, 00:24:27 AM
 Alan,
          Get off to your bed  Min.
Paul.

:-)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 08, 2011, 08:44:57 AM
Henri Bresson  :cool:
Not only was he a cheese eating surrender monkey he also knew far too much about ducks arses  :z4

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 08, 2011, 09:40:11 AM
Working on the assumption that was the right answer..... I'll pop up another question and it's pretty easy to keep the ball rolling.

When I started to take a really serious interest in fly fishing there were 'legends' regularly producing articles in Trout Fisherman magazine, a publication my father had largely dismissed as 'the trawlermans journal' largely because of regular articles describing a method of using leeboards and rudders incorporated called the 'Northampton Style'. The techniques that were developed then - over 30 years ago - are still worth knowing and a skill set the 'big loch' fisher should know a thing or two about :wink I digress.

Anyway, Steve Parton wrote a book that is as valuable today as it was when it was first published for the larger stillwater fisher titled "Boat fishing for trout" which includes heavy reference to techniques he learnt directly and indirectly from the 'source' of the Northampton Style.

The question is, who is credited with being the creator of the Northampton Style :?

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graeme Gauld on February 08, 2011, 09:46:09 AM
bob church
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 08, 2011, 09:54:37 AM
It's a good guess - but it's not the right answer  :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Goolager on February 08, 2011, 10:11:32 AM
G.E.M Skues?

 :roll
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 08, 2011, 10:17:28 AM
Nice answer - but it's not right  :z4

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 08, 2011, 12:25:23 PM
Hi Hamish,
                  Aye of course you're right.  Peter sorry didn't mean to circumvent the rules ,I should have read them first :oops

My guess is Dave Shipman ??????

Paul.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 08, 2011, 12:31:42 PM
Dick Shrive  ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 08, 2011, 12:32:13 PM
Hi Hamish ...... I read Steve's book a few years ago, can I guess Richard Holmes, I think he designed the rudders?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 08, 2011, 13:05:56 PM
Dick Shrive  ?

Dick Shrive is indeed the right answer :z16 Although one of a group who revolutionised stillwater trout fishing with some distinctly lateral thinking and some creative rule bending, Dick Shrive was years ahead of many and is rightly credited as the man who 'created' the Northampton Style.
Leeboards were his thing and he popularised the use of rudders too - albeit Mr B is quite right, Dick Shrive didn't come up with the first designs of fishing rudder.
I'll be using some of those techniques this year..... I'll post the results :wink
Over to you singingpete  :cool:

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 08, 2011, 18:17:19 PM
****** Joker card*******

Why was the 22nd of May 2002 an important date for fly-fishers in Aberdeenshire (and beyond) :?

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on February 08, 2011, 18:26:57 PM
22nd of May 2002 was the day Ethiopia put into operations its plan to irradicate the Tsetse fly.

Welllll..it had to do with flies...closest I could find in Google ;)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dave Mundie on February 08, 2011, 18:31:03 PM
****** Joker card*******

Why was the 22nd of May 2002 an important date for fly-fishers in Aberdeenshire (and beyond) :?

H  :z3

What about the day that haddo opened?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 08, 2011, 18:37:12 PM
How about the Death of Patrick Wolrige-Gordon MP

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 08, 2011, 18:37:37 PM
What about the day that haddo opened?

Is the right answer  :z16

Over to you..................

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dave Mundie on February 08, 2011, 18:47:04 PM
Which fishery is located near as place called Al-Fat which is the local pronunciation?

Dave
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 08, 2011, 18:54:23 PM
Pitfour
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dave Mundie on February 08, 2011, 18:57:37 PM
try again
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 08, 2011, 19:02:56 PM
Waulkmill on one side or Fedderate reservoir on the other, closest would be Fedderate.

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dave Mundie on February 08, 2011, 19:08:38 PM
Well done Alex.

Fedderate Reservoir, an artificial loch of twenty-five acres, christened Loch Riach, unofficially, but better known locally as the "Broch Dam." This rather bleak anglers haunt, constructed during the years 1910 - 1912 to form the main water supply to the Burgh of Fraserburgh, is fed by two gentle streams from the western side of the Bonnykelly district, some five miles north of New Deer.

And actually it feeds Waulkmill :!

Over to you
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 08, 2011, 19:15:35 PM
For those that didn't know Al-Fat is better known as OLDWHAT.

OK here you go;

What is the connection between a Meat eating Mammal and fishing?

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Irvine Ross on February 08, 2011, 19:18:48 PM
Stoat('s tail)

Irvine
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 08, 2011, 19:19:39 PM
No sorry try again
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 08, 2011, 19:20:28 PM
Easy, ME!  :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4
I eat meat, am a Mammal and go fishing :wink

Right next question.

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 08, 2011, 19:39:14 PM
Nope  :z4 :wink :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 08, 2011, 20:08:07 PM
Cats Whisker   :z8

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Noel kelly on February 08, 2011, 20:09:18 PM
Easy, catfish......maybe
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 08, 2011, 20:13:58 PM
Sorry Guys it's a little bit more complicated than that but not too much
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Noel kelly on February 08, 2011, 20:17:07 PM
Dogfish..... :z4 getting my coat now.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 08, 2011, 20:34:21 PM
Mmmmm........
                        Largest land mammalian carnivore - Polar Bear , hair for fly tying ???????   
It's a stumper .

Paul.

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 08, 2011, 20:45:43 PM
Could be an omnivore though Paul  :z4

Dog Nobbler  :z8 could you get my coat on the way out as well Noel  :z4 :z4

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 08, 2011, 20:51:33 PM
Lion......... Line???  :oops :oops


Get mine too noel  :z19
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 08, 2011, 20:57:01 PM
Brown/grizzly bear eats meat and 'fishes' for errrrrr fish :z17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tgPoi0hWjk

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Ewan Lindsay on February 08, 2011, 20:58:50 PM
Ferrule...?  On a Rod joint + it's also something to do with teeth....

Ewan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Goolager on February 08, 2011, 21:40:53 PM
Tasmanian Devil is a dirty,dirty lure?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 08, 2011, 22:05:01 PM
Nice one Iain :z14


  A Tasmanian Devil is a Meat Eating Mammal & a very effective Lure for fishing....it's over to you


Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 08, 2011, 22:37:33 PM
Looks like Iain has left the building, so I'll play ****** Joker card******* :wink

I think there are a lot of fans out there of the film "A River Runs Through It". The Brad Pitt casting scenes were cool, but was it actually Brad himself casting in those scenes? ...... and if not, who was it?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Kevin Muir on February 08, 2011, 23:07:49 PM
Was it Steve Rajeff?

Kev.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 08, 2011, 23:10:51 PM
Nope  :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 08, 2011, 23:51:51 PM
No, not Steve Rajeff Kevin ..... Clue: think shadow cast :wink

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 09, 2011, 00:13:47 AM
To help to refresh your memory ..... but with a different soundtrack :z4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?l=uk&v=2r2yT6PaFbI
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Ewan Lindsay on February 09, 2011, 04:12:14 AM
Was it Lefty Kreh?

Ewan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 09, 2011, 07:08:23 AM
I'm pretty shure it was Jason Borger.

My question is: who is the Austrian riverkeeper who developed his own castingstyle?

CU

Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 09, 2011, 08:43:02 AM
Was it Lefty Kreh?

Ewan

No, sorry Ewan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 09, 2011, 08:47:22 AM
I'm pretty shure it was Jason Borger.

My question is: who is the Austrian riverkeeper who developed his own castingstyle?

CU

Jeroen

Yes, I was looking for Jason Borger ...... Well done Jeroen :z16

And Jeroen's question is: Who is the Austrian riverkeeper who developed his own castingstyle?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 09, 2011, 10:03:09 AM

That I believe would be Hans Gebetsroither!

Alex

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 09, 2011, 12:23:21 PM
Hi,
      Interesting wee link here : http://www.g-feuerstein.com/Elliptical_Fly_Casting.html

       Paul.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 09, 2011, 15:32:17 PM
Hans Gebetsroither is the correct answer!  :z16

Over to you, Alex.

CU

Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 09, 2011, 15:42:30 PM
OK how many are there & who can name the main catagories of Freshwater Flyfishing flies.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 09, 2011, 18:18:10 PM
I'll say 5 Alex , though its debatable if an emerger is a dry  :z8

Wets
Dries
Nyphys
Emergers
Lures

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 09, 2011, 18:30:08 PM
Hi Jim

Close, there are 5 catagories but you are not quite right with all of them. :wink

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 09, 2011, 18:54:16 PM
Hi,
      I think Jim's right . Google maybe debatable !
       It says
                                          dry flies
                                           wet flies
                                           nymphs
                                           lures
                                           "terrestrials" (but I think this is American speak !!)
  (Can't believe I,m checking Google for this !!!!!)  :z4
   I would go with emergers instead like Jim, terrestrials can be dry, wet or emergers . Unless we are on the wrong track in which case my apologies.

Paul.
 
 
 
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 09, 2011, 19:02:56 PM
Hi Paul

Based on that which catagory would a fry imitation then fall into :?

Just my understanding but I believe that
Wet, Dry, Nymph, Emerger are correct but Lure is not quite correct.
Lures, Mini Lures, Fry imitation etc come under one catagory not in
the list, but I could be talking S***e...Mr B :z5


Jim over to you for the next question any way


Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Kevin Muir on February 09, 2011, 19:15:45 PM
Hi

Would the missing one be streamer?

Kev.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 09, 2011, 19:18:03 PM
Hi Kev

Yes a Streamer is what I was looking for

A  streamer fly pattern is a fly fishing lure designed to be actively fished beneath the water's surface within the water column itself.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 09, 2011, 19:20:18 PM
Who won the Scottsih Fly Fsihing championship in 1974

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Kevin Muir on February 09, 2011, 19:23:00 PM
What is the name of the person who is recognised as being the inventer of the first U- shaped float tube.

Kev.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 09, 2011, 19:23:43 PM
Hi,
      I need to go and get my tea !! so I'll guess Stan !

 Paul.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 09, 2011, 19:24:43 PM
I Like that one Jim, I've fished with him once.

Sorry guys looks like 2 questions have sprouted from my question.

Jim your answer in Paul Young....That leaves us Kevin's Question.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Kevin Muir on February 09, 2011, 19:29:53 PM
Would than have been Paul Young of TV angling fame?

I still have a laugh when remember about the clip of him trying to get hold of the seatrout that beached itself on the banks of a loch in Harris.

Kev.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 09, 2011, 19:33:40 PM

Yes the same Paul Young.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 09, 2011, 19:41:25 PM
Correct  :z16

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Kevin Muir on February 09, 2011, 20:06:21 PM
OK a few bits of info that may help.

He started a business in the USA with a brand name that featured a type of water we fish in as part of the company name.

The company closed down a few years ago due to foreign competition taking most of his potential customers.

I use one of his lighter tubes (4 1/2 lbs) for backpacking into the higher hill lochs with a tent.

His name is similar to a wet fly some folk love to hate.

Kev.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 09, 2011, 20:10:22 PM
Peter Ross of Wood River Float Tubes Kevin?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Kevin Muir on February 09, 2011, 20:13:42 PM
Spot on Mike.

He made good tubes.

Kev.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 09, 2011, 20:16:06 PM
He certainly did make great float tubes Kevin :z16

OK, next one ..... What does "whipping on a braided leader loop" mean and how is it done?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 09, 2011, 20:30:18 PM
And the answer my friends is written in these Threads.

http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2495.msg20598#msg20598

I'll get my coat :oops

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 10, 2011, 09:38:44 AM
A link, instead of answering yourself Alex :oops ..... OK, we'll let you off with it this time :z4  :z4

Since Alex has left the building, over to anybody else for the next question .............
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 10, 2011, 09:55:52 AM
How many beans make five No No NO!!!!



 What are the materials for the 'conservation special' fly
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Paul Rankine on February 10, 2011, 18:25:29 PM

 Peter,
             I,m guessing there's nae hook ......... :z2 :z2 :z2
 
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 10, 2011, 19:05:24 PM
How many beans make five No No NO!!!!



 What are the materials for the 'conservation special' fly


It has a hook Paul it's the materials that are a conservationists nightmare dream. It was described in T&S a while back. In fact I may have to change the question a bit cos I can't find the copy of T&S which has the tying details.

So who devised the fly?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 11, 2011, 11:45:44 AM
I think you have got us stumped on this one Peter :z4

I haven't even heard of the 'conservation special' fly, so I've got no idea :oops

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 11, 2011, 12:23:40 PM
Dick Walker, it included things like snow lepoard :shock and other equally unlikely items which could never be found.... though some smartarse probably did have a go. :z4 :z4

Ok an easier one what gave the coloration to the wool origionally used in the Tups indespensable












Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Ewan Lindsay on February 11, 2011, 13:41:34 PM
Almost hesitate to propose this but... :z6 I read it was the Ram's Urine & Sheep Ticks' Feaces from the wool takenfrom the Rams' nether regions!  I believe they also used to use unborn seals' fur dyed red too... :shock

Ewan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 11, 2011, 14:53:44 PM
Almost hesitate to propose this but... :z6 I read it was the Ram's Urine & Sheep Ticks' Feaces from the wool takenfrom the Rams' nether regions!  I believe they also used to use unborn seals' fur dyed red too... :shock

Ewan

Not quite though your in the right region.... :shock oooo errrr missus
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 11, 2011, 18:14:48 PM
I'm with Big Daddy

Taken from the discription of a tying for the Tups Indespensable.


The Body: A little fine wool from the ram’s testicles, which is of a beautiful dusty yellow.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 11, 2011, 18:33:11 PM
Seems it was from the dye that was used to show when the ram had done it's job - a red stain on the ladies back showed the tup had indeed been indespensible.

I'll go with you guys though.

Over to you big daddy
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 11, 2011, 18:43:03 PM
Seems it was from the dye that was used to show when the ram had done it's job - a red stain on the ladies back showed the tup had indeed been indespensible.

I'd buy that Peter, that's what I would have suggested  :cool:

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 11, 2011, 18:55:04 PM
I'd buy that Peter, that's what I would have suggested  :cool:

H  :z3

£50 and its yours Hamish :z4 :z4 :z12
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 11, 2011, 19:17:43 PM
Interesting read this
'I told Mr. Austin that I thought the fly deserved a title, and in his reply he asked what I suggested.  I replied that there was “So and So’s Infallible”, So and So’s Irresistible”, and so on – “Why not ‘Tup’s Indispensable’?"    He said he did not care to name it and for the moment the matter dropped.

'The essential part of this dubbing is the highly translucent wool from the indispensable part of a Tup, thoroughly washed and cleansed of the natural oil of the animal.  This wool would by itself be, like seal’s fur, somewhat intractable and difficult to spin on the tying silk, but an admixture of the pale pinkish and very filmy fur from an English hare’s poll had the effect of rendering it easy to work.  There was also in the original pattern an admixture of cream coloured seal’s fur and combings from a lemon yellow spaniel, and the desired dominating colour was obtained by working in a small admixture of red mohair.  For the mohair I generally substituted seal’s fur, and I believe Mr. Austin did so himself.  When wet the Tup’s wool becomes somehow illuminated throughout by the colour of the seal’s fur or mohair, and the entire effect of the body is extraordinarily filmy and insect-like.

Ok this is a description from Austin himself.

'In an unpublished volume of his favourite dressings Mr. Austin described the pattern in the following terms:
No. 28 - The Red Spinner

'This is a hackled fly tied with yellow silk on a N. 00 Sneck bend hook. It is made with a body sparsely dressed, of a mixture of white ram’s wool and lemon coloured Spaniel’s fur in equal parts, and a little fur from a hare’s poll, and sufficient red mohair to give the mixture a pinkish shade.  It is hackled with a yellow spangled lightish blue cock’s hackle and has whisks of the same colour.'

Sometime around 1890 Austin put together a manuscript of dry fly fishing on the Exe and other North Devon streams, which unfortunately was never published.  However W.H. Lawrie, in his classic work, “A Reference Book of English Trout Flies”, 1967, does in fact give a list of the flies from that manuscript but failed to give further information of its contents.

Interestingly, the pattern given for the Tups is called, simply, the Red Spinner, for it was to be quite a few years later that the fly became know as the Tup’s Indispensable.


Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 11, 2011, 19:21:08 PM
The reason I was sceptical is that farmers sometimes use several Rams & each Ram will have a different colour used to represent it so that it is obvious later which Ram was used on which Ewe.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 11, 2011, 20:06:19 PM
As Big Daddy seams to be unavailable ****Joker Played*****

On the same theme as the last question but a Tad easier.

Why was a Jersey Herd called a Jersey Herd in other
words where or what did it get it's name from.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dave Mundie on February 11, 2011, 22:13:26 PM
The inventor Tom Ivens used the foil from his milk bottles for the body of the fly and the milk was from a Jersey Herd.

Dave
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 11, 2011, 23:12:46 PM
Absolutely spot on Dave :z16

Wonder if anyone still gets their milk delivered in bottles with Gold Tops.

Over to you Dave....


Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dave Mundie on February 12, 2011, 08:56:27 AM
Recently a local guy showed Rebecca Morelle how to do something but what and who was it?

Dave
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 12, 2011, 09:13:29 AM
Trapping mink with Jamie Urquhart :?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dave Mundie on February 12, 2011, 09:21:26 AM
Trapping mink with Jamie Urquhart :?

Spot on Hamish :z16

Over to you
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 12, 2011, 09:51:37 AM
OK..... something a wee bit different, for those with longer memories think of the cheesy 'going for gold theme' :z4

Who am I :?

I have held a world champion casting title three times, but have retired from competitive distance casting.

Amongst other brands, I have been associated with Bruce & Walker and Daiwa.

I am most closely associated with a river in the Highlands, where I was a ghillie for over 20 years.

My name is not Ally Gowans.

H  :z3



Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Irvine Ross on February 12, 2011, 14:17:09 PM
I think that would be Scott Mackenzie

Irvine
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 12, 2011, 14:37:46 PM
Correct  :z16

Over to you Irvine  :cool:

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Irvine Ross on February 12, 2011, 14:52:02 PM
OK. A fly and a salmon pool on the River dee have the same name. What is it?

Irvine
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 12, 2011, 16:36:58 PM
Logie??
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Irvine Ross on February 12, 2011, 16:57:53 PM
Peter

Right first time  :z16

Over to you
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 12, 2011, 20:16:44 PM
OK, no sign of Peter ........... Let's play the joker :z3

How many bladders are there in a standard Sparton Float Tube made by Steve Parton?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on February 12, 2011, 20:20:10 PM
Is it 4 ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 12, 2011, 20:27:41 PM
Is it 4 ?


Yes, well done Baz :z16

There are three bladders in the main V-hull and another bladder in the lower of the two backrest compartments. The Shakespeare version of this tube has five, so it has a bladder in both backrest compartments ...... I still feel safer in the Sparton :wink

Over to you for the next question Baz ..................

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on February 12, 2011, 20:59:29 PM
Without the aid of google what is the maximim size of fly dressing allowed on the lake of menteith  :wink
Answer in inches i.e 2.25" 1.5"  :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 12, 2011, 21:11:53 PM
I'll guess 25.4mm  :wink

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on February 12, 2011, 21:21:37 PM
There is always one tard  :z6 I converted your answer to inchs grandpa and your still a mile out!  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 12, 2011, 23:57:10 PM
4" ?

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on February 13, 2011, 00:01:54 AM
4" ?

Allan

4" Would be a fair flee  :shock
A bit on the big side  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 13, 2011, 12:06:01 PM
If I remember correctly, I think the Sana competition guys work to a max fly size of about 1" 1/8, or 1" 1/4, so I would imagine a guess of 1" 1/4 shouldn't be too far out?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 13, 2011, 18:25:45 PM
4" refers to the specialist pike days they have from time to time.

Mike's got it with standard fishing at 1 1/4" to tie in with the Scottish Clubs rules.

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on February 13, 2011, 18:45:52 PM
Well done Mike it is 1 1/4" , thanks for pointing out the pike fly size Allan  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 13, 2011, 18:50:28 PM
Great stuff, I thought it would be something like that :cool:

Right, next one, nice and easy ........ What is the most common use for the 3 turn water knot in fly fishing?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on February 13, 2011, 18:52:13 PM
For making droppers on your leader  :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 13, 2011, 18:54:12 PM
For making droppers on your leader  :z8

Aye, well done Baz ..... over to you :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on February 13, 2011, 18:57:52 PM
Hmm i dont have much in the question bank Mike, carry on if you like  :z6
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 13, 2011, 19:19:41 PM
Joker Played :z16

Another - who am I :?

I was a founding member of a well known organisation that introduced professional standards in angling instruction.

Although published in many fly fishing magazines I am more commonly associated with another branch of angling.

I am not Ally Gowans.

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 13, 2011, 21:35:57 PM
Ian Moutter
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 13, 2011, 21:41:10 PM
Good guess - but that's not who I'm thinking of.
An additional hint:
A northern European tackle manufacturer made this chap quite well off by buying out a brand he owned rights to in the UK. That might help figure it out :z17

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on February 13, 2011, 22:05:30 PM
Steve parton  :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 13, 2011, 22:15:23 PM
Steve parton  :z8

This chap was around well before Steve P got into fly fishing :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 13, 2011, 22:21:41 PM
Hugh Falkus or Arthur Oglseby?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 13, 2011, 22:26:18 PM
Or Dick Walker?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 13, 2011, 22:32:31 PM
John Goddard?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 14, 2011, 00:07:10 AM
No, no and no - getting there though :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 14, 2011, 07:44:26 AM
Lres Moncrieff? Clive Gammon?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 14, 2011, 09:04:53 AM
No and sadly, no.......

OK, a hint - the organisation was APGAI

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 14, 2011, 09:18:37 AM
Tommy Edwards
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 14, 2011, 09:31:58 AM
Sorry Peter - not him - getting closer though  :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 14, 2011, 18:58:58 PM
Peter McKenzie-Philps?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 14, 2011, 19:16:55 PM
Col Esmond Drury?  Had to think hard and kept thinking of rod manufacturers but then moved onto thinking what item of tackle transends all disiplines?  Answer hooks.  Then thought who'd have been around then?  Partridge aye but a brand not a person, Kate  :z4 Kamasan? def not, Drennan?  still too early, Esmond Drury though?  Aye he'd be around then.

Was a bait fisher before he was a fly fisher as well i believe?  :z8

Allan

Just in case i'm right (and before someone nips in with a joker card  :z4 i'll post this one (not to be answered if i'm wrong with Hamish's question though  :z4)

What is the correct name of the Scottish Train Station translated as 'Trout Burn Station' and where is it?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 14, 2011, 19:30:13 PM
I know the answer to Allan's question ...... but I don't know the answer to Hamish's :cry  :cry  :cry

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on February 14, 2011, 19:38:20 PM
Oliver Edwards or Derek Bingham, ? easgach1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 14, 2011, 19:45:22 PM
Would it be Peter Anderson Hamish?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 14, 2011, 19:54:13 PM
Ok Mike give's the answer to mine whilst we wait for Hamish to get back to us  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 14, 2011, 19:57:26 PM
Did you not write an article for FF &FT that mentioned this station Allan  :wink

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 14, 2011, 20:04:38 PM
Did you not write an article for FF &FT that mentioned this station Allan  :wink

 :z18

Jim

Aye, it was in: Dubh Yourself a Favour, FF&FT ....... I'll let you give the answer Jim :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 14, 2011, 20:09:32 PM
 :z14 :z14

Well spotted guys, and here's me thinking no one read my s***e  :z4 Thought i'd get this one to run for ages as well :oops

Come on then Jim nail the answer for those who don't know. :wink

Allan

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 14, 2011, 20:13:36 PM
Its Altnabreac station in Caithness :cool:

Altna being burn and breac troot

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 14, 2011, 20:18:30 PM
Actually that's not the one i was thinking of.........
Nah only kiddin  :z7

Well soptted Jim (and Mike)  :grin
Sadly we'll just have to wait for Hamish to put us out our misery on the Apgai front  :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 14, 2011, 20:28:56 PM
OK until Hamish gets back

Who won the Scottish Fly fishing Championship on loch Leven in 1990 ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on February 14, 2011, 20:55:19 PM
Paul Young  :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 14, 2011, 21:00:34 PM
Close but no cigar young Baz :z13

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 14, 2011, 21:02:27 PM
Stan Headley?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 14, 2011, 21:05:16 PM
Stan Headley?

Correct  :z16

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 14, 2011, 21:09:58 PM
That's amazing Jim :shock

And I now guess Alan Bramley is the name Hamish is looking for?

But my question is: in what year did the Dutch team win the Fly Fishing World Championships?

CU

Jeroen


Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 14, 2011, 21:48:53 PM
Guys - maybe I made it a smidgen too hard  :z8

The answer was Barrie Welham, he owned the Garcia name in the UK (plus Mitchell reels etc) and sold to Abu who wanted the Garcia brand worldwide.
He was one of the founders of APGAI, along with some of the names mentioned in guesses and - of course -  Arthur Oglesby.

H  :z3

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 14, 2011, 21:55:22 PM
Great stuff Hamish ..... I didn't know that :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 14, 2011, 23:18:14 PM
Guys - maybe I made it a smidgen too hard  :z8

The answer was Barrie Welham, he owned the Garcia name in the UK (plus Mitchell reels etc) and sold to Abu who wanted the Garcia brand worldwide.
He was one of the founders of APGAI, along with some of the names mentioned in guesses and - of course -  Arthur Oglesby.

H  :z3




Thought i'd mentione Mr Oglesby?

Hamish, don't mean to be pedantic and split hairs, but was Barrie Welham (along with Peter McKenzie Philps and others) not in the second wave of APGAI members helping to take it forward after it's initial formation?   :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 15, 2011, 08:15:45 AM
That's OK Allan, I'm known as something of a pedant myself  :wink

You did indeed mention Arthur Ogleseby however, it was Barrie Welham I was thinking of :z16

My recollection (I wasn't there...... it really was a bit before my time :!) is APGAI was formed by Arthur Ogleseby, Tommy Edwards, Esmond Drury, Barrie Welham, Jack Martin and finally Jim Hardy in 1967. Now that came from an information leaflet that a family friend gave to me after he attended one of Arthur Oglesbeys' spey casting schools on the....errrr.... Spey.
I think Peter McKenzie Philips and others were amongst the first to qualify under the new assessments/exams and were almost certainly instrumental in smoothing the rough edges and developing the syllabus post-1970. However, that's the limit of my knowledge on APGAI.

I'll check, but I'm pretty sure I'm right  :cool:

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 15, 2011, 09:06:47 AM
Jeroen, was it 1981
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 15, 2011, 09:44:58 AM
1981 (Luxembourg) is the correct answer  :z16
First and only time we won it...

Over to you Peter.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 15, 2011, 10:33:29 AM
What is the wing of the fly called a "Shilfie Tip" made of
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 15, 2011, 12:57:29 PM
What is the wing of the fly called a "Shilfie Tip" made of

Corncrake ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 15, 2011, 17:37:12 PM
I'll post one to keep things going until Peter appears  :wink

This years Salmon opening day

What do the largest Salmon caught on an Aberdeenshire river on opening day have in common with the 1st fish caught on the Helmsdale ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 15, 2011, 17:57:16 PM
Corncrake ?

 :z18

Jim
Good guess Jim but nope not Corncrake though there is a fly in the same book called the barred corncrake.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 15, 2011, 18:03:08 PM
It wouldn't be a finch would it :?

I recall having an arguement debate with my Grandad (who was from Largs) in one of my summer visits about some finches in their garden and he called them something that sounded like shilfie  :z8

H  :z3

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: ramjet on February 15, 2011, 18:05:18 PM
Hi Hamish

i think you are correct. I believe it is a chaffinch :z8

alan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 15, 2011, 18:38:22 PM
Hi Hamish

i think you are correct. I believe it is a chaffinch :z8

alan

Spot on Alan. Your next :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: ramjet on February 15, 2011, 19:10:36 PM
When were Rainbow trout successfully introduced into scottish waters?

I have a couple of answers ??? both are very close together though.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 15, 2011, 19:15:00 PM
Howietoun 1885 ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: ramjet on February 15, 2011, 19:24:09 PM
oh well i should have gone for a harder question :z4

That is the answer i have jim, spot on :z14
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 15, 2011, 19:30:31 PM
I have been reading an old "Hooked on Scotland" book I just read it there a couple of days ago.

1st place in Englandshire was Blagdon.

OK back to my Salmon Question

This years Salmon opening day

What does the largest Salmon caught on an Aberdeenshire river on opening day have in common with the 1st fish caught on the Helmsdale ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 15, 2011, 19:51:11 PM
Both are a bloody miracle  :z4 :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 15, 2011, 19:52:31 PM
Both are a bloody miracle  :z4 :z4

Close but no cigar Peter  :z4

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 15, 2011, 21:24:38 PM
Both the same size, or caight on the same flee? :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 15, 2011, 21:42:16 PM
same angler?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 15, 2011, 21:54:21 PM
Caught by a Ghillie :? :?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 16, 2011, 00:17:34 AM
Both can be kept?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 16, 2011, 06:46:50 AM
Nope, I'll make it a bit easier , the Aberdeenshire (25lb clean fish) was caught on the Dee.

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 16, 2011, 10:46:41 AM
OK this should be a giveaway now, the answer is in the location where the fish were caught  :wink

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 16, 2011, 11:00:50 AM
River Dee........Helmsdale Fly??
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 16, 2011, 11:06:51 AM
Had a look on the Helmsdale website for clues http://www.helmsdale.org/fishing/fishing.html (http://www.helmsdale.org/fishing/fishing.html) and I see they record the first fish was from Park pool ...... so is the connection "Park"?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: the water buoys on February 16, 2011, 11:41:53 AM


      Not much good at this general knowledge :z8  but learning plenty keep it up :z4
         
         Henry
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 16, 2011, 13:05:29 PM
Correct Mike

The 25lb Salmon was from the Park beat on the Dee and the Helmsadle one was from the Park pool.

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 16, 2011, 13:15:31 PM
Great stuff Jim ...... OK, here's another easy one :wink

"The great error of fly-fishing, as usually practised, and as recommended to be practised by books, is that the angler fishes down stream whereas he should fish up ........"

This is a quote from a well known Scottish angler and author ...... What is his name?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Irvine Ross on February 16, 2011, 13:32:30 PM
W C Stewart?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Noel kelly on February 16, 2011, 13:40:07 PM
Bob Wyatt? Scottish?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 16, 2011, 13:58:59 PM
Canne mind ever writing that? :z4 :z4 :z4
Ok hands up i qualify on the Scottish bit but the writing and great are certainly pushing it too far.... :z4

I think it was RC Bridgett?

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 16, 2011, 14:35:04 PM
W C Stewart?

Well done Irvine ....... Over to you :z16

In The Practical Angler (1857) W. C. Stewart went on to write: "The first and greatest advantage is, that the angler is unseen by the trout ...... The next advantage of fishing up we shall notice, is the much greater probability of hooking a trout when it rises ..... Another advantage of fishing up is, that it does not disturb the water so much ..... and the last advantage of fishing up is, that by it, the angler can much better adapt the motions of his flies to those of the natural insect."

Now considering the way that anglers fished in those days, this was awesome! Not only was W. C. Stewart suggesting that anglers fish their wet flies like spiders upstream, but he was doing so nearly 30 years before Halford wrote Floating Flies And How To Dress Them, which told anglers to fish dry flies and to fish them upstream! :wink 
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Irvine Ross on February 16, 2011, 14:53:52 PM
OK.  Who had a book on fishing north country style spiders published in 1994
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 16, 2011, 15:14:38 PM
I think it might have been Dave Hughes but I could be wrong.

In 1975 Sylvester Nemes began the re-introduction of sorts to traditional North Country spider patterns, including Pritts original North Country spiders, with the book The Soft-Hackled Fly. This book along with a string of others have kept traditional soft hackled spider patterns alive and well in the fly fishing community while introducing some innovative patterns to a new generation of fly anglers.  Most recently Dave Hughes, who knew Pete Hidy, has kept the tradition of flymphs alive. In 1994 he wrote Wet Flies: Tying and Fishing Soft-Hackles, Winged and Wingless Wets, and Fuzzy Nymphs. This book has detailed descriptions of how to tie and fish fly patterns from Leisenring, Hidy, and Polly Rosborough.



Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 16, 2011, 15:50:38 PM
Had to look it up in my copy of Fly Fishing - The North Country Tradition: Leslie Magee.

My question is: who designed the Hendrickson dry fly?

CU

Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 16, 2011, 16:20:33 PM
La Branche
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 17, 2011, 12:16:24 PM
The American Roy Steenrod way back in 1915

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 17, 2011, 14:42:54 PM
Correct  :z16
He designed the fly for one of his customers, A.E. Hendrickson, who was a regular guest at the River View Inn. This inn was owned by the Ferdon family. Winnie Ferdon married Walt Dette and together they became famous for their Catskill flies. (great book by Eric Leiser: The Dettes, a Catskill Legend)

Over to you, Alex!

CU

Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 17, 2011, 15:24:27 PM
OK her goes two part question;

What is the Latin name for the Mayfly & how many spiecies are there in Britain alone?

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 17, 2011, 16:07:27 PM
Ahhhhhhhh now di you mean the mayfly as we know it or as the americans would know it
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 17, 2011, 16:16:41 PM
That would be the Latin name used in the UK and the amount of different spiecies in the UK.
I did put Britain in the original question as a hint. :wink :z4 :z4 :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 17:37:33 PM
Ephemeroptera ?

 51 species ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 17, 2011, 18:13:57 PM
If we're talking about 'our' Mayfly the I think theres 3 Ephemera Vulgata, Ephemera Danica & Ephemera Lineata though I'm not sure if those are spelt right
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 17, 2011, 18:25:18 PM
Sorry uys had to nip out to eat, Jim you are spot on 51 Species of Ephemeroptera in Britain.

Mayflies used to be known as Dayflies due to their short life cycle, also, their current name is due to the appearance of the adults at the same time as the Hawthorn blooms. The hawthorn was once called the 'mayflower'.

So there you go...over to you Jim

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 18:38:35 PM
If anyone is interested here are the UK species

http://www.ephemeroptera.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/9316/

Thjere are over 2000 worldwide.

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 18:53:24 PM
Name this trout loch

Was once part of a tidal Estuary used by the Romans then Vikings.

It is in a Royal Burgh conferred on the residents by Mary queen of Scots in 16th centuary

On the East side is the ancient Chapel of St Mary founded in 911 AD

 :z18

Jim 

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 18:56:01 PM
Would it be:

The Loch of Strathbeg :?

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 19:06:15 PM
It would indeed Hamish :wink

Last bastion of the Comyns when Edward  Bruce (Roberts Brother) Harried Buchan

Former home of the Lairds of Haddo whose 17th centuary  home is now a farmhouse.

at 550 acres the largest dune loch in the UK

and now unable to fish it largely thaks to the RSPB  :mad

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 19:15:40 PM
Which loch is this:

I was once famed for my Sea Trout and Salmon fishing but today am hardly fished at all.

I was syndicated in the late 1980's

One of the largest salmon farms in the UK was set up in the sea loch where my river flows to the sea.

I am probably the perfect example of why Salmon farming should be banned.

Which loch am I :?

H  :z3

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 19:19:30 PM
Loch Maree ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 17, 2011, 19:29:52 PM
Sorry uys had to nip out to eat, Jim you are spot on 51 Species of Ephemeroptera in Britain.

Mayflies used to be known as Dayflies due to their short life cycle, also, their current name is due to the appearance of the adults at the same time as the Hawthorn blooms. The hawthorn was once called the 'mayflower'.

So there you go...over to you Jim



Thats what I meant in my previous post. The name  'Mayfly' in britain is generally taken to mean the large species of Ephemera - danica, etc.. Dayflies are the various ephemeroptera. In the States 'Mayfly' has the same meaning as 'Dayflies'
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 19:57:42 PM
Loch Maree ?

 :z18

Jim

It's a good guess..... but it's not right  :z10

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 17, 2011, 20:08:31 PM
Thats what I meant in my previous post. The name  'Mayfly' in britain is generally taken to mean the large species of Ephemera - danica, etc.. Dayflies are the various ephemeroptera. In the States 'Mayfly' has the same meaning as 'Dayflies'

Mayflies - Ephemeroptera
Mayflies are insects which belong in Order Ephemeroptera (from the Greek ephemeros = "short-lived", pteron = "wing", referring to the short life span of adults). The life cycle for the mayfly begins when after a small number of weeks, the egg changes into a nymph.  It in point of fact requires an added year before they mature.

Mayflies Family of flies also known as March Brown,  Blue winged olive, Epherma danica, Blue winged olive imago, Blue winged olve dun and Baetis spinner

As you may be aware, there are various names to the different types of mayflies & different names including their emergence stage according to species:  - Stone Clinger, Hexagenia, Slit Burrower, March Brown,  Blue winged olive, Epherma danica, Blue winged olive imago, Blue winged olve dun and Baetis spinner to name just a few.  All these has a unique way of life with the intention of matching its environments as you would expect.  But it really it is as a young nymph that every one of those species adapts and creates lifestyles to suit their very own environments. When it turns into an adult, its single aim in life is always to reproduce. This good-looking living thing may well be in this world just for a few hours, certainly not more than 24 hours. Therefore after they've mated, the female lays her eggs and dies becoming what is named spent.  The entire sequence then begins another time.

Mayfly Short Life-time

It is very fascinating to note of the fact that short life span of the mayfly is represented in it's name in a mixture of languages all over the world and interprets literally as one-day-fly!  A few examples of this are - German Eintagsfliege, Dutch eendagsvlieg, Slovenian enodnevnica, Swedish dagslända, Danish and Norwegian døgnflue, Polish jętka jednodniówka, Finnish päivänkorento, Bulgarian еднодневка, and Greek εφήμερος.

This is according to a British entomologist. Not American.

Alex
       
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 17, 2011, 20:11:21 PM
Loch Stack or More?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 20:13:44 PM
Loch Stack or More?

Good guesses Allan - but they're not right  :z10

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 17, 2011, 20:15:21 PM
Loch Torridon

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on February 17, 2011, 20:17:00 PM
Loch Eck?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 20:28:26 PM
Good guesses chaps - but no  :z10

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 17, 2011, 20:31:32 PM
Loch Awe
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 20:33:13 PM
Sorry, still not there yet Alex  :z10

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 20:35:51 PM
Loch Garry ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 17, 2011, 20:36:17 PM
OK last guess then Im off for some beauty sleep, stop laughing you lot...

Loch Fyne

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 20:40:55 PM
Sorry - no and no  :z10

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 20:46:54 PM
Loch Shiel  or lochy ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 20:47:45 PM
Good guesses both Jim, but no  :z10

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 17, 2011, 20:50:10 PM
Assapol
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 20:56:16 PM
Duart ?

 :z18

Jim

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 21:03:02 PM
Good guesses both - but still no  :cry

Clues:

I have appeared in Harry Potter, although you wouldn't know it.

I was also location footage for some background shots in 'Local Hero'.

The fish farm at the mouth of the river was (probably) the very first to be so sited in Scotland and is almost certainly the oldest salmon farm in Scotland.

H :z3

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 17, 2011, 21:06:30 PM
Sheil
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 17, 2011, 21:06:53 PM
Some loch beginning with s near Fort Willie?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 21:19:27 PM
No and no  :z19

Additional clues.

New Bridge, Frying Pan, the Dubh Lochan, Falls and Monument are all pools on the small river that flows from the loch to the sea.
The loch is dammed at the western (seaward) end.

This loch is south of Loch Maree but North of Loch Etive (I simply can't make this too easy :!).

H  :z1



Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on February 17, 2011, 21:20:24 PM
Loch Morar?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 21:21:33 PM
No........ sorry  :z10

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 21:26:36 PM
Arisaig ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: John Reid on February 17, 2011, 21:27:38 PM
Loch Snizort
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 21:32:57 PM
Sorry guys - still no  :z6

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on February 17, 2011, 21:38:26 PM
Loch Arienas?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 21:43:48 PM
No - but very good guess :z13

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 21:48:35 PM
Loch Alsh ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 21:50:34 PM
No  :-[ :sad

More clues needed :?

H :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 17, 2011, 21:54:30 PM
Loch Creran ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 17, 2011, 22:00:31 PM
Loch Eilt?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 22:00:44 PM
Good try Jim, but (as a couple of others have guessed) Loch Creran is a sea loch and it's a freshwater loch I'm after.
The River Creran has a loch on it..... but it's something like Baile Chailen or something else equally unpronounceable in Gaelic. I intend to fish it.... one day.

I actually had the first week of my honeymoon at Invercreran - lovely place :cool:

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 22:03:00 PM
Loch Eilt?

YES

Well done Allan :z14 :z16

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 17, 2011, 22:11:04 PM
Thanks Hamish.  It was your Local Hero clue that helped.

Now i need to think of a suitable successor question.
But when i think of it, a wee side question.. If a seatrout water goes into decline then can it become a quality brown trout water?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 22:15:04 PM
Absolutely 100% yes - I've seen it with my own eyes :cool:

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 17, 2011, 22:17:09 PM
Loch Maree?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 17, 2011, 22:19:38 PM
Lochs Shiel, Eilt & Arienas immediately spring to mind :z17
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 17, 2011, 22:24:14 PM
Ok here goes.

There are 14 waters that fall into the Spey worth a cast or two.  Some are tributaries of tributaries.  So it's dig the os maps out time lads as i'm asking name them?

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Ben_D on February 17, 2011, 22:31:26 PM
Avon
Dulnain
Nethy
Truim
Fiddich
Livet
Calder
Feshie

Are the only ones I can think of without resorting to a map!



Ben
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 17, 2011, 22:39:56 PM
Off to a flier Ben, but still six short.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Ben_D on February 18, 2011, 00:08:18 AM
That's without getting the map out Allan, getting a map out for a question like that would be like taking your laptop to Mastermind so you can use wikipedia!!

Ben
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 18, 2011, 00:57:59 AM
Did anybody tell Stan he wasn't allowed a laptop? :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 18, 2011, 07:37:31 AM
That's without getting the map out Allan, getting a map out for a question like that would be like taking your laptop to Mastermind so you can use wikipedia!!

Ben

And you'd be knackered then too..........wikipedia!! :shock :shock
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on February 18, 2011, 20:15:15 PM
Avon
Dulnain
Nethy
Truim
Fiddich
Livet
Calder
Feshie

Only six more to go guys ......... any ideas?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 18, 2011, 20:51:20 PM
Rinnes Tromie & Aberlour ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 18, 2011, 21:14:43 PM
Agree with Tromie,and Aberlour , not sure about Rinnes , ............

Luineag , Druie , and a couple of longshots ................Am Beanaidh , Insh , Duthil ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 18, 2011, 21:37:42 PM
I used to go clay pigeon shooting at Glenn Rinnes , do not remember the river being called that - think it is Dullan River .
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 18, 2011, 21:43:07 PM
And Einich ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 19, 2011, 06:27:53 AM
I used to go clay pigeon shooting at Glenn Rinnes , do not remember the river being called that - think it is Dullan River .

Aye yer right Pete, it's called Dullan Water which flows into the Fiddich then into the Spey.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 19, 2011, 21:05:00 PM
Aberlour, ok i'll give you that as a bonus along with the Knockando and Mundole, but not the ones i was looking for as sport on these pretty patchy. Tromie yes and Dullan certainly but still leaves four more.

Tributaries of Tributaries count remember. :wink

Keep guessing
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 19, 2011, 23:28:36 PM
River Eidart , Druie , Erict  and Dobrack ????

Then I give up .
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 20, 2011, 08:21:28 AM
OK last go...

Markie Burn, Mashie Water, Allt Breakachy, Truim, Calder, Kingussie Burn, Tromie,
Raitts Burn, Feshie, Druie, Glenmore, Milton Burn, Nethy, Strath Nethy, Dulnan,
Craggan Burn, Cromdale Burn, Dellifur Burn, Tulchan Burn, Gheallaidh Burn, Avon,
Allt Arder, Knockando Burn, Ballintomb Burn, Carron Burn, Aberlour Burn, Fiddich,
Red or Orbliston Burn.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 20, 2011, 10:40:27 AM
OK last go...

Markie Burn, Mashie Water, Allt Breakachy, Truim, Calder, Kingussie Burn, Tromie,
Raitts Burn, Feshie, Druie, Glenmore, Milton Burn, Nethy, Strath Nethy, Dulnan,
Craggan Burn, Cromdale Burn, Dellifur Burn, Tulchan Burn, Gheallaidh Burn, Avon,
Allt Arder, Knockando Burn, Ballintomb Burn, Carron Burn, Aberlour Burn, Fiddich,
Red or Orbliston Burn.
Alex



Nope still missing four, or at least the four i'm looking for.  :wink  The red ones were never required, given sport on these is rather patchy. :cool:

 final clue:  Not as far down as Aberlour, or as far upstream as Grantown, given it away now :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 20, 2011, 19:56:52 PM
No more takers?

Ok the missing waters are.........................drum roll....................................


Avon (Aan) tributaries Conglass, Chaibet, Lochy and Ailnack.


So for  a follow up question.........

Where is the only part of the British Isles that is officially designated as Tundra?  :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 20, 2011, 20:13:56 PM
shetland
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: bruce on February 20, 2011, 20:16:14 PM
its got to be Methlick :z4 :z4 :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 20, 2011, 20:21:08 PM
No Bruce Methlick is the land that time forgot  :z4 :z4 :z4

Good guess though  :z4

Is it the Flow country in Caithness ?


 :z18

Jim

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 20, 2011, 20:24:01 PM
Too general Peter.
Sorry Jim not the Flow Country, but good guess.

Given that Scotland has a lot of exposed high areas there are certainly several places that could hold this title, but there's only one that has been officially refered as tundra.

So specific name of area please.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on February 20, 2011, 22:28:31 PM
Cairngorm.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 20, 2011, 23:58:13 PM
Sorry not Cairngorm
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 21, 2011, 08:51:50 AM
OK, tricky. I thought it would have to be Alpine Tundra, so I'd also have guessed at the Cairngorms as they kind of fit the description of tundra I remember from geography lessons at school :z8

The stab in the dark for me would be Hoy in the Orkneys, if I remember rightly it's one of the very few places in the Orkneys which still has woodland and again (back to school days :!) I think a tree line is needed to mark where tundra begins/ends :?

I'm not sure. Thinking cap on for this one Allan  :wink

H  :z3
 
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 21, 2011, 11:16:29 AM
Too general Peter.


Fugla Ness Shetland
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 21, 2011, 14:59:12 PM
Close Mike but not close enough, very close Peter but still not close enough  :wink

I think, Mike Hamish, it's the actual make up of the ground (inc vegetation and plant species?) that's used in this location to qualify as Tundra???  What i was informed anyway.

Give it that the area is very exposed to an almost continual blast of wind is the deciding factor and, along with the poor (and thin) soil content here, is what's shaped it this way.

No more clues except to say it's certainly on a northern isle.

By the way Hamish Mike the treeline in Orkney is on the mainland, just along from Finstown in a small glen allowing enough shelter for them to get a hold.  There is another called Happy Valley close by but i think this is entirely man made and certainly maintained.
Oh and the collective name for these islands is Orkney, or Shetland, not the Orkneys and Shetlands.  And they tend to put the Waters name before description, IE Harray Loch, Swanney Loch, Spiggie Loch etc.  I know this as i've been corrected enough times up there.   :z4 :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Offthebard on February 21, 2011, 15:07:57 PM
Allan, you've just pointed out something to me that I've done for years and never given it a second thought.

My wife always found Loch Lochy peculiar because I always used the name first followed by loch and this stood out as totally contrary. Married an English Maid you see and its all foreign to her :z4.

Any way back to your question and I wondered about Sumbrugh.

Sandy B.   
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Irvine Ross on February 21, 2011, 16:05:57 PM
Sorry Alan but Cairngorm is one of the possible correct answers. All the high plateau is classified as Arctic-alpine tundra

The Cairngorm National Park website says

"In the Cairngorms National Park, altitude is an obvious and key factor controlling habitats and species found. It has had the effect of dividing the Park into two ecological zones:

    * the sub-arctic (or arctic–alpine) tundra zone;
    * the temperate , boreal forest zone.

The transition between these zones can be seen well in Glen Clunie (by Glen Shee) at the foot of Meall Odhar.

Around the Cairngorms, the point of transition varies from 600 to 900 m, depending on snow cover, exposure and the kind of ground. A change in the plants and animals found often occurs at about 750 m."

Arctic tundra at lower altitudes is characterised by permafrost and I don't think that occurs on any of the northern isles.

Irvine
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 21, 2011, 17:37:18 PM
Parts of St Kilda are described as tundra .  All depends on the definition of  ' tundra.'
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 21, 2011, 18:01:21 PM
Allan - I've 'tweaked' your last post in order that Mr B doesn't feel persecuted for things I've said :z7

Yes, the definition of what tundra is (or isn't) in this context appears to be killing things a smidgen.
Arguably, large tracts of upland Scotland or indeed the isles could readily be classed as semi-Alpine tundra which is what I've always known it as.
That description Irvine has posted courtesy of the Cairngorm National Park website works for me :z16

Supplementary clue needed :z17

I'd always known Orkney & Shetland as the 'Orkneys or Shetlands' when not including islands in the name, so will make every effort to get that right from now on :shock

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 21, 2011, 21:51:51 PM
Allan - I've 'tweaked' your last post in order that Mr B doesn't feel persecuted for things I've said :z7

Yes, the definition of what tundra is (or isn't) in this context appears to be killing things a smidgen.
Arguably, large tracts of upland Scotland or indeed the isles could readily be classed as semi-Alpine tundra which is what I've always known it as.
That description Irvine has posted courtesy of the Cairngorm National Park website works for me :z16

Supplementary clue needed :z17

I'd always known Orkney & Shetland as the 'Orkneys or Shetlands' when not including islands in the name, so will make every effort to get that right from now on :shock

H  :z3


No probs Hamish and yes certainly agree with the Cairngorm description, perhaps the Shetland description is more apt given it's above the 62 degree north line (well most of it anyway)?

So to clear up the confusion lets tweak the question to, 'What's the highest point of the Shetland Isles?'
There you go i've given it away now.  :z7  No Google cheats though. :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 22, 2011, 09:04:47 AM
Well I have been to Unst which was a cold miserable place , seen Muckle  Flugga on the TV , never been to Ronas Hill ( which I googled ) .

So will go for Unst .  :z6
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 22, 2011, 15:49:17 PM
Nope, not Unst, however maybe if you'd trusted Google??? :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 23, 2011, 15:21:11 PM
The highest point in the Shetland Islands Archipelago is Ronas Hill

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 24, 2011, 07:54:27 AM
OK Now for an easy one ...... joker played.......

Where is this place ? On the shore  of a Scottish loch .    :-

The house is a long low building. I set apart the south-western half for my work. The largest room has a bow window and here I made my door and constructed the terrace and lodge. Inside the room I set up my oratory proper. This was a wooden structure, lined in part with the big mirrors which I brought from London.


Clue - it is a famous loch with good fishing .
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 24, 2011, 13:25:23 PM
OK Now for an easy one ...... joker played.......

Where is this place ? On the shore  of a Scottish loch .    :-

The house is a long low building. I set apart the south-western half for my work. The largest room has a bow window and here I made my door and constructed the terrace and lodge. Inside the room I set up my oratory proper. This was a wooden structure, lined in part with the big mirrors which I brought from London.


Clue - it is a famous loch with good fishing .

Bit presumptuous playing the joker Singingpete Dryflee hasn't confirmed any answer as correct YET!!!!!!

Joker can be played as below:

PS: If somebody gets the answer right but has not posted a new question within 15 minutes of getting the go ahead  ...... anybody that wishes can play "the joker card" and jump in with the next question
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 24, 2011, 13:48:34 PM
Yup Google cheat Pete gave tha game away but correct answer confirmed by Catman.

I'll leave it up to you guys to sort out who goes next?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 24, 2011, 13:56:34 PM
Pete's question stands as next question just wanted to point out that the answer had not been confirmed by you.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 24, 2011, 14:50:40 PM
Where is this place ? On the shore  of a Scottish loch .    :-

That would most probably be Boleskin House near Foyers on the shores (well, not really but close enough) of Loch Ness, it just so happens I visited it last year - perhaps an unfair advantage :wink
Didn't know it was one of Jimmy Pages 'pads' in the Highlands until I was there.

H  :z3



Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 24, 2011, 18:33:54 PM
Correct Hamish , it is an interesting but scary place . I have stayed in the gatehouse a few times  and it is wierd .  :shock

Apologies if I jumped the gun playing a joker but I thought the answer was confirmed in my previous post - I googled so my answer was not valid .   :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on February 24, 2011, 20:02:40 PM
Something to do with Aleister Crowley perhaps? easgach1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on February 24, 2011, 21:50:28 PM
Think Jimmy Page also owned it. He did the 'No pylons' movement a big hand when he told the power companies to F*** off when they wanted to run lines over his estate :z4 :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 24, 2011, 22:20:49 PM
Correct Hamish , it is an interesting but scary place . I have stayed in the gatehouse a few times  and it is wierd .  :shock

It is bloody eerie  :shock

OK, here's one for you.......

Which loch is this :?

I am one of the remotest lochs on mainland Scotland.

Although I hold a good head of Brown Trout, most anglers come for the Salmon and Sea Trout.

A stunning waterfall at one end attracts walkers and a fair walk is needed to get to my shores.

Harriers were common overhead here once, but these days it's more likely to be Typhoons or Eagles.

So..... which loch :? :? :? :?

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 25, 2011, 06:44:04 AM
Quick guess - Loch More  ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 25, 2011, 07:16:44 AM
It's a good answer, but it's not the right answer  :z6

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Irvine Ross on February 25, 2011, 08:31:25 AM
Loch Hope?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on February 25, 2011, 08:58:47 AM
Loch Dionard?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 25, 2011, 14:01:24 PM
Sandwood
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 25, 2011, 15:16:18 PM
Loch Dionard?

Is the right answer  :z16

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 26, 2011, 14:41:42 PM
***JOKER PLAYED***

Name this fly:

Thread   :  Black
Hook   :  #  8 - 14
Tail   :  A pair of deep red hackle tips from dyed cock.
Body   :  Silver Mylartinsel
Wing   :  Mallard.
Hackle   :  Light blue from dyed cock.

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 26, 2011, 18:50:21 PM
Silver Doctor?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 26, 2011, 19:29:32 PM
Nope. Don't think "medicine", think "Royal!"  ???

Good luck,

Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on February 26, 2011, 20:35:13 PM
while Jimmy Page may have owned it I think Aleister Crowley was there , he was well into black arts and considered himself a wizard,easgach 1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 27, 2011, 14:45:25 PM

I think that would be the Norwegian fly The Telemarkskongen, think that is how you spell it.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on February 27, 2011, 16:47:19 PM
That's right, Alex  :z16

Telemarkskongen, the King of Telemark.

CU

Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 27, 2011, 19:18:34 PM
OK

Here is a fairly easy one for you;

Shetland & Sutherland both start with the letter S & end with the letter D but in another language (other than English) they have something else in common, what is it.

Hint: the answer is someone or something who loves fish.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 27, 2011, 22:40:25 PM
Sutherland has the word cat , Shetland has seal , in Gaelic ? Both like fish !   :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 28, 2011, 04:20:14 AM
Sutherland has the word cat , Shetland has seal , in Gaelic ? Both like fish !   :z4

Pretty close Pete you are on the right track but not quite, I am looking for 1 thing that they share
Cat & Seal  would be 2 things. Lets just say you are half right :wink


Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 28, 2011, 08:29:08 AM
The language would be old Norse as, I think, Gaelic was never a language spoken on Orkney or Shetland and as both areas were under 'Viking' control that seems logical. However - I'm prepared to be wrong  :z7
The common link might be seals, but that's a complete guess as I know naff all about old Norse  :z8

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 28, 2011, 11:01:51 AM
Ok Hamish, i'll go Cat then  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: bruce on February 28, 2011, 12:11:13 PM
i will say they both end in "land" which must mean something in some other language  :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on February 28, 2011, 13:18:14 PM
Cat is correct

In early Irish literature, Shetland is referred to as Inse Catt - "the Isles of Cats”
The Cat tribe also occupied parts of the northern Scottish mainland -
they can be found in the Gaelic name for Sutherland  (Cataibh, meaning "among the Cats").

OK Dryflee it is over to you
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Tiam on February 28, 2011, 19:15:48 PM
Ok, Joker Played.....

Question... Diawl Bach is a well known trout fly but, where does it originate from and in that language what does it mean?  :wink
I know it may be easy but its all i have got :z4

All the Best
Tiam
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 28, 2011, 19:26:18 PM
It means 'little devil' in Welsh. Origins are something of a mixed bag, but almost certainly came from the lad of the daffodils and groups of close formation miners singing and terrifying tourists :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Tiam on February 28, 2011, 19:28:48 PM
Got it in one :z7 :z4
Right Hamish, over to you :wink

All the Best
Tiam
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 28, 2011, 19:55:36 PM
OK - another one of these:

Which loch am I :?

I was once famed for my brown trout fishing but these days am more frequented by maggot drowners coarse fishermen and in particular Pike anglers in search of a fish of legendary proportions.

In my part of Scotland, I am by far the longest loch in the area and have one of the biggest overall water catchments.

The river that flows from me was once a popular Salmon fishery, but these days the trout fisherman is more common than the salmon angler.

So.... again..... which loch am I :?

H  :z3





Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on February 28, 2011, 20:03:25 PM
Sounds a bit like Loch Lomond .
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 28, 2011, 20:06:05 PM
It's a good guess, can see why you'd say that, but it's not right  :z5

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 28, 2011, 20:12:09 PM
Loch Awe  :?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 28, 2011, 20:13:12 PM
Nice try Jim, but no  :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on February 28, 2011, 20:21:22 PM
Loch Katrine ?

 :z18

Jim

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 28, 2011, 22:38:19 PM
No, but heading south is a good plan  :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on February 28, 2011, 23:05:51 PM
Loch Ken.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on February 28, 2011, 23:28:12 PM
Loch Ken.

Is the right answer  :z16

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 01, 2011, 21:26:50 PM
Cheers Hamish.

Ok how about this one?

Prior to the building of the Caledonia Canal a different route was considered as an easier route from coast to coast instead of around the Firth.

So where was it and what waters would it utilise?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Silver Stoat on March 01, 2011, 22:24:02 PM
Hi Dryflee never realised you were so good at general knowledge  :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 01, 2011, 22:41:13 PM
Was Loch Shin one of the lochs in that proposed canal :? Seems to 'ring bells' with me.

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 02, 2011, 12:37:37 PM
Ah Hamish that would be telling, but looks like you must've been an avid reader of some of my previous ramblings?

So, come on then, name the waters and where the canal bits would have had to run.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: the water buoys on March 02, 2011, 12:41:14 PM


           loch venachar.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 02, 2011, 12:52:13 PM
I know the canal was bulit by Thomas Telford, but the route was originally surveyed by James Watt in 1773 , I'm sure he must have proposed an alternative route ? Not sure where it was though.

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 02, 2011, 13:01:43 PM
Allan is the answer somewher close to home for you  :wink from the Moray firth to Loch Linnhe via Glrn More.

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 02, 2011, 13:04:10 PM
Nope Jim, or Henry.  We clue (giveaway) check oot Hamish's last reply and fill in the blanks  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 02, 2011, 13:32:11 PM
Ok Merkland -Shin - Dornoch Firth ?


 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 02, 2011, 17:53:30 PM
Close enough  :z16

The route was actually canal with locks from Laxford to Stack, canal again to More, third canal section with locks to Merkland, again to Grahama, short canal (probably a single lock actually) to Shin, then big canal section with locks through to Oykel which would be deepened to allow passafe through to Bonar Bridge and Kyle of Sutherland beyond.  Thankfully they never went for it, however hammered the area with a massive hydro system a good few years later.

It's also reckoned that vikings used this route as well, however they would have to carry thier boats (small traders, not longboats) over the land sections.  Overscaig is reputed to be a name of viking origin meaning moustacheoed (sp?) hound (well why not we've a bearded collie  :z4) although i did hear this late at night in the bar after a few apris fish lemonades.  :wink

Right Jim, your turn.  :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 02, 2011, 18:45:16 PM
Which country has the worlds highest (in terms of altitude) trout streams ?

 :z18

Jim

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 02, 2011, 19:06:37 PM
My gut instinct would be to say the Himalayas are a likely bet, so initially I'd plump for Kashmir - but that's not a country so the answer could be India, Pakistan or China.

So - I'm going with Nepal :?

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 02, 2011, 19:09:22 PM
Close but no Cigar Hamish  :wink

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on March 02, 2011, 20:05:54 PM
Bhutan? easgach 1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 02, 2011, 20:17:03 PM
The Kingdom of Bhutan it is , stocked with Leven troot  :z16

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 03, 2011, 09:21:27 AM
Joker

How did these leven troots get into these high mountain lochs and by whom?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on March 03, 2011, 12:38:10 PM
Probably the Victorians as they did else where in the world, eggs frozen & placed in wooden crates with straw, which were then shipped around the world, a similar thing was done in Australia at a place called the Salmon Ponds in Tasmania.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 03, 2011, 13:12:43 PM
Aye ok that explains how the leven strain fish got into Bhutan, but how specifically did they get into these high lochs?

I'll give you a clue, it was explained in the 'Accidental Angler'  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on March 03, 2011, 18:35:43 PM
loch Leven trout round here were taken up by pony in panniers, when were Brook trout introduced into the UK? easgach1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 04, 2011, 14:07:11 PM
loch Leven trout round here were taken up by pony in panniers, when were Brook trout introduced into the UK? easgach1

Wrong.  It was actually convicts who were given the task as punishment and carried the fish in bags on thier backs apparently  :shock.

Circa 1880's Derek?  A couple of our upland lochs have them as a naturally regenerating spiecies now from previous stocks of many moons ago.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on March 04, 2011, 14:15:10 PM
there are believed to pre Ice age trout and post Ice age trout in some lochs, but round here the high hill lochs were stocked every 3 years by the wagon coming from Howietoun and then locals taking them up with a garron and 2 milkchurns,I know of some lochs that were stocked like this as recently as the late 20's, and our club lochs were stocked this way , why do you think " Loch Leven" trout are any different from other trout?or is this some sort of deja vu?
 ??? easgach 1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on March 04, 2011, 14:22:35 PM
1864 for England and 1870 for the local upland lochans, never heard the one about convicts, no mention of it in " 100
years in the highlands" or" Pigeon holes of memory"It may be my PC but I dont get the posts right away, which is why I seem to be playing catchup  ???  easgach 1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 04, 2011, 15:23:31 PM
1864 for England and 1870 for the local upland lochans, never heard the one about convicts, no mention of it in " 100
years in the highlands" or" Pigeon holes of memory"It may be my PC but I dont get the posts right away, which is why I seem to be playing catchup  ???  easgach 1

Your getting your wires crossed , the stocking by convicts was the trout in Bhutan.

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on March 04, 2011, 19:06:01 PM
sorry jedi it was dry flee that posted about the convicts stocking the high hill lochs, not guilty,easgach 1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 05, 2011, 02:36:40 AM
sorry jedi it was dry flee that posted about the convicts stocking the high hill lochs, not guilty,easgach 1

Crossed wires Derek, Jim's right i was refering to the Bhutan question, not your local reply, sorry for the confusion.
Guilty for not reading your post correctly.

Allan

PS

I was famous for terrorising my local area and committed many brutal acts, some of which you can still visit today.  I had several homes but my most famous is still standing on an island on a famous troot loch.

Who am i, when did i live, what bad thing will i be most remembered for, where's that well known 'hoose' of mine and for a real big fat bonus, how and where did i die?

Easy.... :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on March 05, 2011, 05:52:32 AM
Duke of Cumberland ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on March 05, 2011, 09:07:33 AM
Mary Stuart had a 'hoose' on Loch Leven. She was hung on february 8th 1587  "in the Great Hall of Fotheringhay between the hours of nine and ten in the morning." Didn't she try to kill the Queen?

CU

Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 05, 2011, 10:22:37 AM
nope on both counts guys.  Keep the guesses comin.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Irvine Ross on March 05, 2011, 11:15:39 AM
I think you are referring to the Wolf of Badenoch who had a castle on Loch an Eilein. One of his dastardly deeds would have been sacking and burning Elgin and its cathedral but he did a lot more than that. He lived some time around 1350 -1400.

Can't claim the bonus point I'm afraid. Tell us all the gory details.

Irvine
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on March 05, 2011, 17:17:19 PM
He lived some time around 1350 -1400.

He did all that in only 10 minutes? ;)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on March 05, 2011, 17:19:59 PM
I was famous for terrorising my local area and committed many brutal acts, some of which you can still visit today.  I had several homes but my most famous is still standing on an island on a famous troot loch.

Who am i, when did i live, what bad thing will i be most remembered for, where's that well known 'hoose' of mine and for a real big fat bonus, how and where did i die?


Matt Hayes? ;)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on March 05, 2011, 22:44:23 PM
I think you are referring to the Wolf of Badenoch who had a castle on Loch an Eilein. One of his dastardly deeds would have been sacking and burning Elgin and its cathedral but he did a lot more than that. He lived some time around 1350 -1400.

Can't claim the bonus point I'm afraid. Tell us all the gory details.

Irvine

Also on Loch-in-dorb.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 06, 2011, 16:10:21 PM
Irvine's almost there with Mr Ritchie getting the hoose location right.

Lochindorb was the famous troot water i was after and Wolf of Badenoch certainly correct, as was the burning of Elgin Cathedral, but castle on Loch an Eilien?  Not quite. He did have a castle in the area but he wouldn't recognise it as another ancient monument has been built on the site.  I was simply going to say where but where's the fun in that?  So where was this (which was also his reported place of death) Big clue: you can see it overlooking the Spey opposite Kingussie at the side of the A9.  If you can't get it from that i'll have to tell you  :z4
And how was he reputed to have died? (Bit of folk lore in this but a good and fitting wee tale none the less  :wink)

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike M on March 06, 2011, 18:24:19 PM
Ruthven barracks/castle?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 06, 2011, 20:48:15 PM
Ruthven barracks/castle?

Correct.  :z16

Local legend has it the Wolf of Badenoch died in his castle at Ruthven after playing (and losing) the Devil at chess (or was it cards??) one dark and stormy night.  Why is it it's always a dark and stormy night when these things happen?  Why not a damp mild midge infested mid afternoon?  :z4

Ok time for someone else to come up with a question 'cause i've been hogging this too long.  Sorry Guys

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 08, 2011, 08:28:27 AM
OK then.... another one of these:

Which loch am I :?

Few anglers heading north consider me for a visit and pass my waters by - most have no idea I exist.
This is surprising as at around 160 acres, surrounded by quality agricultural land and with an average depth of around 2 metres I am one of the most prolific trout lochs in Easter Ross. Despite this, I am under fished.
One of the reasons I fish well in the early season is my waters are a mere 15 metres above sea level.

So...... which loch am I :z8

H
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 08, 2011, 11:35:44 AM
Loch Eye ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 08, 2011, 14:07:18 PM
 Jim you beat me to it.

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 08, 2011, 14:46:45 PM
Loch Eye ?

Correct - well done Jim :z16

Over to you :cool:

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 08, 2011, 17:41:38 PM
Locals call them "Tyees" but what do we more commonly know them as ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 08, 2011, 17:59:56 PM
Chinook or King Salmon??
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 08, 2011, 18:08:12 PM
Correct Peter  :z16

 :z18

Jim
 
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 09, 2011, 08:40:06 AM
OK, another wee tricky one:

Who am I :?

I have had articles published in many fishing magazines but am perhaps best known for the various books I've written or co-written on game angling.
My first book was published in 1960 and my first magazine article was in 1955.
I've bumped into Hamish a few times (when he was but a lad) on the west coast on a river I fished a lot - which might be a very solid clue :wink

So.... who am I :?

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 09, 2011, 08:41:45 AM
Fred Buller
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on March 09, 2011, 11:50:08 AM
Bill Currie
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Richard Tong on March 09, 2011, 12:30:00 PM
Neil Graesser?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 09, 2011, 13:29:24 PM
Ian Wood
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Steven Sinclair on March 09, 2011, 15:13:08 PM
Bruce Sandison?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 09, 2011, 20:31:13 PM
Bill Currie

Is the right answer - can see I'll need to make these trickier for you Graham :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 10, 2011, 09:12:18 AM
Not quite a joker but can anyone explain what the art of 'Gyotaku' is?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 10, 2011, 12:55:09 PM
Not quite a joker but can anyone explain what the art of 'Gyotaku' is?

Is it something like Japanese brass rubbing with fish ?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 10, 2011, 16:27:35 PM
Is it something like Japanese brass rubbing with fish ?

Cheers

Jim

Almost Jim but not quite
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on March 11, 2011, 17:06:02 PM
Ah so..that would be an old way of recording fish sizes using sumi ink & paper 19th Century...ish japan.

Alex

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 11, 2011, 22:27:47 PM
Ah so..that would be an old way of recording fish sizes using sumi ink & paper 19th Century...ish japan.

Alex



Tis so.... also by John Gierach in 'Where the trout are all as long as your leg'

Over to you Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on March 12, 2011, 07:43:11 AM
OK I am going to go with a Hamish type question..see how you get on with this one.

I am a long, thin, perch-like commercial food fish & I belong to the Gempylidae family.
I am found in the seas of the Southern Hemisphere.

In Australasia as I am known as a barracouta although I am not related to the barracuda.

I can grow up to 79" long and weigh as much as 13 lb.

In South Africa what is my name & which language does it come from?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Noel kelly on March 12, 2011, 11:36:00 AM
Snoek/Dutch  :z18
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on March 12, 2011, 18:43:11 PM
Correct Noel

Over to you
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on March 12, 2011, 18:59:55 PM
Ah! Tinned Snoek South Africas help to the war effort who remembers that? easgach 1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 16, 2011, 08:35:09 AM
OK - this might be trickier... we'll see :wink

Which fish am I :?

I am from an anadromous species, but seldom intentionally fished for in the UK.
Although there are examples of my species that are land locked in freshwater, I'm more associated with my saltwater cousins. Recently there has been a move to reintroduce my species to waters in Europe but I remain largely unknown as a sport species in the UK although across the English Channel your French cousins have a habit of of targeting my species for sport fishing.

So.... exactly which fish am I :?

H :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 16, 2011, 09:50:49 AM
Is it the Shad ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 16, 2011, 18:33:06 PM
I need a bit more Jim - you are 99.99% correct :z16

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Offthebard on March 16, 2011, 18:37:12 PM
Beat me to it Jim,

Actually caught one on a floating line and a Teal Blue and Silver of the jetty outside the house, flat calm winters evening with the jetty lights shining on the water. Took me hours and the shoal just kept on rising to wee beasties in the tidal stream.

Sandy B.O.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 16, 2011, 19:02:53 PM
Allis Shad
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on March 16, 2011, 19:34:50 PM
Twaite Shad? easgach1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 16, 2011, 19:44:55 PM
It is indeed the Allis Shad  :cool:
Had great fun with these under-rated fish on the River Wye many moons ago :z16
By the way, they taste quite nice too  :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 16, 2011, 22:09:58 PM
What is the feathery connection betwen the first editor of a well known fishing magazine and the eponimous Ghillie of a lord in the 1800's?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on March 17, 2011, 19:33:43 PM

  Pheasant Tail Feather.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 17, 2011, 22:09:48 PM
Nope sorry :cry
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 18, 2011, 19:04:22 PM
What is the feathery connection betwen the first editor of a well known fishing magazine and the eponimous Ghillie of a lord in the 1800's?

Is it the Editor Fly Peter ?

The Editor
Hook: Size 6 Tiemco up-eye salmon hook
Thread: 6/0 BlueTail: Golden pheasant breast feather
Body: Fluorescent white floss
Rib: Pearl mylar tinsel and fluorescent green mono
Wing: Fluorescent green and black arctic fox, crystal flash
Hackle: Black hen neck
Overwing: Gray Fox


 :z18
Jim

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 18, 2011, 19:25:32 PM
Sorry Jim the editor in question is a person so is the ghillie. The connection is a specific feather. An extra clue? The editor was famous for catching the heaviest bag of salmon on a scottish loch.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 18, 2011, 20:27:14 PM
Peter
The Editor was a person it was Sandy Leveton the editor of Trout and Salmon who first tied the Editor fly.

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 18, 2011, 23:15:23 PM
Nope you forgot 'the eponimous Ghillie of a lord in the 1800's?'
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 19, 2011, 09:48:45 AM
*** rubs eyes***

OK, so it's a feather we're looking for.
The eponymous Ghillie is the bit that's a wee bit grey to me.... I'm thinking the Ghillies surname is eponymous with either a fly or the feather in question - that suggests to me the material link between the editor of an angling magazine and what we're looking for must be the same as the Ghillie to be eponymous :?
My fevered brain suggests the thing to do is to suggest the Ghillie and the rest will follow.

Hamish exits stage right and goes to drink more coffee and look for thinking cap :z4

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 19, 2011, 10:01:44 AM
OK, have had some more coffee.

I think the Ghillie (and eponymous fly) is Jock Scott, what the specific feather is still bugging me and so is the editor of a fishing magazine who had the largest bag of salmon from a loch.

Regardless, I think the Jock Scott is the probable link so I'll plump for the material to be mallard or jungle cock.

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 19, 2011, 10:39:22 AM
OK, have had some more coffee.

I think the Ghillie (and eponymous fly) is Jock Scott, what the specific feather is still bugging me and so is the editor of a fishing magazine who had the largest bag of salmon from a loch.

Regardless, I think the Jock Scott is the probable link so I'll plump for the material to be mallard or jungle cock.

H  :z3

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo he's hit the crossbar!!!! :shock :shock so close. 

One more go before I give the answer big chap??

Think wing and Ian Wood
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 19, 2011, 10:48:04 AM
Wood Duck  :?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 19, 2011, 23:30:35 PM
An interesyting idea and I can see the relationship. I was thining of white tipped turkey - the wing of the 'Ian Wood' fly which held the record catch of salmon on loch lomomd and the underwing of the Jock Scott.

your answer is close enough. Over to you Hamish
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 20, 2011, 09:07:33 AM
Cool  :cool:

Right then (rubs chin, scratches head).... errrrrr.....

Who am I :?

OK. I wrote one book on the life of salmon, based on my own experiences which was a best seller in its time.
I started my business at 18 years old and although there is no longer a family link the fishing tackle business I established it is still on the go to this day. In its time my fishing tackle shop was something of a Mecca for salmon and trout anglers in my particular part of Scotland and for a time we built our own rods and reels.

So..... who am I :?

H :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: bordertroot on March 20, 2011, 10:11:54 AM
A wee guess at P.D.Malloch  :?

Bob
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on March 20, 2011, 11:06:50 AM
Yup  :z16

Over to you Bob :wink

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on March 20, 2011, 17:00:00 PM
A wee bit of a joker whilst waiting for Bob and one left unanswered on the 'Where's This?' thread (posted thanks to Jim's senior moment  :z4 :z4


OK I'll go for something a bit different, Fly Fishing and its and its occasional paranormal manifestations.

Hugh Falkus wrote "Often I know beforehand I am going to catch a fish " that he attributed to Extra sensory perception.

Ian wood in 1957 called it the anglers extra sense.

Who am I quoting on the same subject ?

"It is as if there were some magnetic influence in the angler's confidence, which disposes the Salmon to take the fly
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on March 31, 2011, 13:34:48 PM
Hmmm ....... no response, do we get a clue or two Allan? :wink

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 31, 2011, 17:46:41 PM
He wrote what some consider the best fishing book ever written, Britsh Arisotocrat and Foreign Secratary 

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 31, 2011, 18:10:31 PM
viscount gray of falloden
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on March 31, 2011, 18:53:04 PM
Close Peter  :wink

Its Viscount Grey of Falloden

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 31, 2011, 20:27:56 PM
What is the next line of this poem

Let the Purist rejoice in the fly that he dries,
And look down on my practice with hauteur,
But for me the surprise
Of the flash of the rise........
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Fadpasser on March 31, 2011, 21:24:06 PM
What is the next line of this poem

Let the Purist rejoice in the fly that he dries,
And look down on my practice with hauteur,
But for me the surprise
Of the flash of the rise........
Is it "with a hole in my liberty bodice" ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 31, 2011, 22:23:43 PM
 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

In the immortal words of Roy Walker.... it's good, but it's not right
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Fadpasser on March 31, 2011, 22:26:24 PM
What is the next line of this poem

Let the Purist rejoice in the fly that he dries,
And look down on my practice with hauteur,
But for me the surprise
Of the flash of the rise........
The rosy brown wink under water
G.E.M. Skues
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on March 31, 2011, 22:32:09 PM
Corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrecta :z4 :z4 :z13 :z13
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Fadpasser on March 31, 2011, 23:00:25 PM
Yeeesss, finally got one, OK heres mine,   Loch fad on the Isle of Bute lies in the highland fault line, following the line west what is the next loch you come across ?  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on April 01, 2011, 02:49:22 AM
Loch Quine, or Quin or something like that? (Or in other words the broon troot water that lies at the far end of Fad?)

Given that answer it's obvious i haven't looked it up on Google  :z4

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Fadpasser on April 01, 2011, 09:19:20 AM
Loch Quine, or Quin or something like that? (Or in other words the broon troot water that lies at the far end of Fad?)

Given that answer it's obvious i haven't looked it up on Google  :z4

Allan
close enough, Loch Quien over to you  :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on April 01, 2011, 22:19:26 PM
Thanks  :z16

Ok there are 13 waters (actually there's a couple more but first 13 will do) on the Orkney mainland worthy of the anglers serious attention.  Name them.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on April 02, 2011, 09:18:50 AM
I went up to Orkney once when I was a kid (maybe 9 or 10 years old :?) for a fortnight - had mumps the first week :cry
But I remember fishing:
Stenness
Harray
Swannay
Boardhouse
Another wee loch which I don't recall.
So there's four of them :z6

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on April 02, 2011, 10:56:39 AM
I went up to Orkney once when I was a kid (maybe 9 or 10 years old :?) for a fortnight - had mumps the first week :cry
But I remember fishing:
Stenness
Harray
Swannay
Boardhouse
Another wee loch which I don't recall.
So there's four of them :z6

H  :z3


I'll give you three of them Hamish.  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: the water buoys on April 02, 2011, 14:02:12 PM


       Harray ,Boardhouse,Stenness,Swannay,Isbirster,Hundland,
       Skaill,Kirberster,Wasdale,Clumly.These are the ones i have fished,
        plus a few more.

         Henry :z16


       
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on April 03, 2011, 00:38:47 AM
Your can add Bosquoy , Sabiston, Stromness Reservoir, Tankerness and St. Marys Loch to those.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on April 03, 2011, 10:38:24 AM
Close enough guys.  There's a couple more but that'll do.

Given Henry was closest (despite the fact he canne spell  :z4) i'll give it to him, so over to you H.

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: the water buoys on April 08, 2011, 20:40:32 PM

    Sorry for the hold nice easy one to keep it going,
    What is the longest loch in Scotland.

          Henry :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on April 08, 2011, 20:42:25 PM
Loch Awe?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: the water buoys on April 08, 2011, 20:46:56 PM



         To easy over to you Graham. :z16


             Henry
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on April 08, 2011, 20:57:29 PM
On the Spey, which three pools once belonged to Rothes but are now part of Arndilly?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on April 10, 2011, 21:34:17 PM
Dunno Graham  :z8  Should do as well given i've fished it.  Long Pool one of them?  :z8

Allan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Graham Ritchie on April 10, 2011, 22:32:22 PM
The Long Pool is still part of Rothes, I guess the question was too hard. The pools are Bulwarks, Jock's Tail and Gilmores.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on April 11, 2011, 08:48:15 AM
I've yet to fish the Spey, so a tough one for me to have answered without 'googling' a cheat :wink

Go on Graham, try another  :z16

H  :z3
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on April 12, 2011, 17:55:47 PM
I was just away to say that as well Graham.  :wink :z4

Ok give's another one, no as hard this time.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 10, 2011, 02:05:48 AM
How would you go about making up a home tied tapered leader, for fishing size 12 to 14 wet flies for example?

What diameters, lengths and knots would you use etc?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on June 10, 2011, 09:02:31 AM
Hi Mike,

I'd stick to Charles Ritz's Rafale method (60% butt, 20% belly, 20% tippet). For wet fly fishing on the lochs I use a leader of 9 or 10 ft, butt 0,55 mm and a tip 0,18 mm. Nothing fancy, but does the job for me.

Regards,

Jeroen

 

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on June 10, 2011, 15:23:41 PM
8/6/4, I use this most of the time to make up a 9ft-6in cast,no more than 2lb difference between material, does me
easgach1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Barry Robertson on June 10, 2011, 19:05:01 PM
I would normally fish a 18ft leader when fishing wets.
9ft from my braided loop to the top dropper then 4 ft to mid dropper dropper then 5ft to the point fly.
Last time out fishing for browns i fished 9.5lbs grand max straight through with no tapered leader
 :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Offthebard on August 12, 2011, 12:28:55 PM
Straight through 10' x 6Lb Maxima/Ultima. 6'-2'-2'.

Seatrout waters 6' 8lb Maxima/Ultima, 2' 6lb, 2'6lb.

Rivers a different ball game.

The Bard.   
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 05, 2013, 17:47:40 PM
I failed to give anybody the go ahead to ask the next question :oops ..... so nobody did :z4  :z4  :z4

Who wrote the excellent book titled "Six Months in Scotland" .... An American view of its salmon fishing?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 05, 2013, 18:49:47 PM
Sylvester Nemes !  :z18
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 05, 2013, 19:09:13 PM
Holy thread resurrection Mr B  :shock :!

H

Marc - your turn to ask a question  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 05, 2013, 19:36:34 PM
Yes, that's right Marc, an excellent book :z16

Your turn to come up with the next question ............................
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 06, 2013, 22:06:12 PM
shit, i didn't know the rules...   :X2 :X1 :z4

anything fly fishing then ?

cheers,
marc
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 06, 2013, 22:36:52 PM

anything fly fishing then ?

cheers,
marc

Yes Marc, anything fly fishing :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 06, 2013, 23:02:43 PM
alright then, who is the creator the 60% - 20% - 20% leader ? (butt-taper-tippet)

 :z15
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 06, 2013, 23:22:30 PM
Charles Ritz

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 07, 2013, 09:06:01 AM
good Man !  :z16
now, your turn  :z18
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 07, 2013, 10:58:37 AM
Thanks Marc

Humans have 23 pairs of Chromosomes , how many do Brown Trout have ?

 :z18

Jim   
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 07, 2013, 11:55:06 AM
Thanks Marc

Humans have 23 pairs of Chromosomes , how many do Brown Trout have ?

between 38 and 42?

i,
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 07, 2013, 12:47:23 PM
ahhhh, tough to find questions that aren't answered in two seconds by doing a Google search....  :roll
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 07, 2013, 12:53:41 PM
ahhhh, tough to find questions that aren't answered in two seconds by doing a Google search....  :roll

true - I confess to Googling the answer.

Ok, here's a picture question then... this should be hard or impossible without a clue!

Name the renowned trout river pictured here as it leaves its source lake.

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/3_07_06_13_12_53_13.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=829)

I've been here. 2nd picture clue may follow.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 07, 2013, 13:28:42 PM
OK no Googling, just a pure guess, the Taupo ?

 :z18

Jim 


Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 07, 2013, 13:39:17 PM
OK no Googling, just a pure guess, the Taupo ?

Correct.... hemisphere. Wrong continent. Sorry, it's a stupidly hard question.

OK, how about guessing the country then!
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 07, 2013, 13:55:05 PM
Chile?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 07, 2013, 13:55:33 PM
OK, how about guessing the country then!

Argentina (Patagonia) and perhaps the Chimehuín :?

I'm going with Argentina anyway :cool:

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 07, 2013, 14:00:21 PM
Argentina (Patagonia) and perhaps the Chimehuín :?

top marks to the big chap! correct on both counts!
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/3_07_06_13_2_00_18.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=830)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 07, 2013, 15:20:27 PM
MASSIVELY impressed, oh massive One !  :z14 :z14 :z14
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 07, 2013, 16:21:00 PM
Most pleasing, but it had to be Argentina as I remember you talking about the steaks and wine when you were last up Iain :wink

OK, here's my challenge:

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/16_07_06_13_4_18_23.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=831)

Which loch is this :? This could be very, very tough as few people ever go there. I've only ever been once and it was kicking the arse of 25 years ago :!
I will give you a clue or two (kind of already have).... just not yet  :wink Let's see how this one pans out.....

H :cool:

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 07, 2013, 18:12:39 PM
Loch Shiel possibly?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 07, 2013, 18:46:31 PM
Don't think it is Shiel, but the surroundings look like they might be from that area?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 07, 2013, 19:02:48 PM
It's not Shiel I'm afraid Mr B, but that's a solid guess (knowing my background :!) as to the broad geographical area that this loch might be in  :wink
I think it's still too early for a clue.....

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 07, 2013, 20:15:37 PM
Wherever it is it looks like its been straffed with Agent Orange  :roll

I'll guess Loch Doine

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 07, 2013, 20:40:25 PM
Sorry Jim, it's not the right answer.
Time for a clue :?

Morag got in the deep near here.

H :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 07, 2013, 20:58:37 PM
Sorry Jim, it's not the right answer.
Time for a clue :?

Morag got in the deep near here.

H :wink

No need to apologise Hamish  :z4

How about Morar ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 07, 2013, 21:02:19 PM
How about Morar ?

Nope  :z6
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 07, 2013, 21:08:30 PM
Nope  :z6

Nope  :roll Morag is the monster that allegedly lives in Loch Morar , so is there another Morag  I've  missed   :? obviously yes  :z4

Loch Nevis ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 07, 2013, 21:17:22 PM
That wouldn't be Loch Hourn in Knoydart would it H?

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Noel kelly on June 07, 2013, 21:47:49 PM
Mordor?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 07, 2013, 21:49:03 PM
Nope  :roll Morag is the monster that allegedly lives in Loch Morar , so is there another Morag  I've  missed   :? obviously yes  :z4

Loch Nevis ?

No, just read the clue more closely  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 07, 2013, 21:49:52 PM
That wouldn't be Loch Hourn in Knoydart would it H?

 :z1

Negatory good buddy  :z6

Mordor?

Ha :! No.......

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 07, 2013, 22:34:20 PM
Casting my memory back to a conversation we had around ten years ago, how about....

...Loch Quoich?

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 07, 2013, 22:59:42 PM
Nope  :z10

OK, lets see the first clue:

"Morag got in the deep near here."

I'll add a second clue.

Sea Trout and Salmon reach this loch through two rivers, the second river they run is nearly twenty times longer than the first.

Now that's a pure dead giveaway  :wink

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 07, 2013, 23:09:12 PM
H,

is it loch Garry?

Eddie :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 07, 2013, 23:25:53 PM
Allt A'Choire?

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 08, 2013, 00:45:53 AM
Arkaig?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on June 08, 2013, 06:13:39 AM
Laggan ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 08, 2013, 08:15:37 AM
Allt A'Choire?

this one's a pain in the Arisaig, but i think Euan's got it?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 08, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
Yes, Euan has it - it is indeed Loch Beoraid. Why it appears a Allt a Choire on Google maps is a mystery to me  :X2

The River Meoble flows from Beoriad down to Loch Morar and is (approximately) 20 times longer than the River Morar.
Loch Morar is the deepest stretch of freshwater in the UK, hence Morag (Nessies cousin) got in the deep there.

Awesome, all yours Euan  :z1

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 08, 2013, 09:47:51 AM
Good question Hamish, got me inspired to visit a wee bit of the country i've not been near in a long time.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 08, 2013, 10:15:53 AM
Good question Hamish, got me inspired to visit a wee bit of the country i've not been near in a long time.

Cool  :cool: If you decide to head for Loch Morar let me know, I fancy a day back on that loch, I've not fished it for 22 years.
The Meoble river is worth a squint at the back end by the way  :wink

H :cool:

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 08, 2013, 12:58:10 PM
Oh crap!
I'll have to come up with something good now. Let me ponder it whilst walking my dugs at the beach and I'll get back to you.

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 08, 2013, 13:03:58 PM
Oh crap!
I'll have to come up with something good now. Let me ponder it whilst walking my dugs at the beach and I'll get back to you.

 :z1

 :z4  :z4  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 08, 2013, 16:18:40 PM
Well here we go....
Diawa had a range of rods called Alltmor. Where is the the Allt Mor that gave that range it's name?
Clues tomorrow if no-one gets it  :z4

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 08, 2013, 18:53:32 PM
Would it be a tributary of the Spey :?

H
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 08, 2013, 19:10:17 PM
Errr, might be.....

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 09, 2013, 08:45:16 AM
Is it a tributary of the Spey that is near to Aviemore :?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 09, 2013, 09:23:30 AM
It's a fair bit from Aviemore but you are in the right area.
It flows past a house that was important to Diawa - clue 1

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 09, 2013, 09:51:39 AM
Is it a tributary of the Spey that is near Aviemore in the same way that Glasgow isn't :?  :z4

I have a fair idea where it is, but the house thing intrigues me so I'm saying naff all  :z13

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 09, 2013, 18:51:42 PM
Was named after a tributary of the Nethy near Boat of Garten by the creator of Clan Rods Harry Jamieson.  It simply translates to Big Burn.  Dawia originally wanted to call the series Silver Stream but Harry persuaded them to reconsider to a more Scottish name and suggested this.

Not too bad wee trout burn if a little restricted and overgrown.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 09, 2013, 20:43:47 PM
You da man Allan  :z16  :z4 :z4 :z4

Every time I see an Alltmor rod I give a little snigger knowing where the actual "mighty river" really is!
Over to you Mr Liddle...

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 09, 2013, 22:29:27 PM
Great stuff guys, I didn't know that :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 09, 2013, 22:46:58 PM
I forgot to say that the house in question is Harry's house / workshop where he finished the first Alltmor rods for Diawa.
He always referred to the Allt Mor as "the wee burn oot the back".
Clan Rods are still going and can be found here

http://www.clanofsweden.com/pages/contact.html

I now wish that I had never sold my Clan 15' salmon rod..... :z10

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 11, 2013, 13:12:45 PM
Ok give's a wee minute to think up a suitable question, stealing a minute on the site from work at the moment but should think of something before end of lunchtime.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 11, 2013, 13:32:27 PM
Ok Lochindorb features in a novel, what's the name of the book and author please.  No cheatin on Google.  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on June 11, 2013, 13:42:07 PM
Ok Lochindorb features in a novel, what's the name of the book and author please.  No cheatin on Google.  :wink

I don't know the book, but I do know its Gaelic name means Loch of the Minnows. Do I win a lollypop?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 11, 2013, 13:43:28 PM
Nope, it's Loch of the Wee Troots btw.  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 11, 2013, 14:37:00 PM
Ok Lochindorb features in a novel, what's the name of the book and author please.  No cheatin on Google.  :wink

As it's topical - Iain Banks' "Complicity?"
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on June 11, 2013, 15:52:04 PM
Nope, it's Loch of the Wee Troots btw.  :z4

Beg to differ ;)

Loch nan Doirb is the Gaelic

Doirbeaden, doirbeag and doirbearden means minnow...all of which are shortened to doirb for some reason.  :z8

Breac, gealag or Samhnan means trout.....with bricean meaning small trout


Apparently...  :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 11, 2013, 20:49:09 PM
So sad yer still not getting it  :z4

Sorry Iain wrong answer
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 11, 2013, 21:27:16 PM
phone-book ?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter Rawlinson on June 11, 2013, 22:07:09 PM
The Wolf of Badenoch by James Irvine Robertson
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 12, 2013, 09:14:00 AM
Ok pretty obscure so a wee clue, writen by the same author who wrote the short story 'The Quiet Man' later turned into a movie with John Wayne and Mary? O'Hara (not 100% on the female actress here and refuse to google answer  :z4)

No Googling either guys.   :z7

Another wee clue is the story was centered on Tirriemore Farm Cottage and a big fat clue is what you use to lock the door and where that lock usually is....... giving it away now.  :shock :shock :shock
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 12, 2013, 09:21:00 AM
Key West ..... guess :roll
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 12, 2013, 09:26:09 AM
Key West ..... guess :roll

Key Lime Pie?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 12, 2013, 12:29:18 PM
I can't remember his name but the guy who wrote "The Quiet Man" sent his family to Scotland to esacpe the Irish civil war, he wrote a book Called Key above the door.

 :z18

Jim 
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 12, 2013, 12:33:12 PM
Allan,

That's Maureen O'Hara and I believe that Maurice Walsh wrote the book in question.
The book of course was....
Wait a minute, I don't have a question to ask yet so I'll not answer that until I do!  :z4

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 12, 2013, 12:34:29 PM

Wait a minute, I don't have a question to ask yet so I'll not answer that until I do!  :z4

 :z1

That's not cricket :z4  :z4  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 12, 2013, 12:36:08 PM
Dorkey !  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 12, 2013, 12:45:24 PM
Dorkey !  :z4

Bad spelling or an attempt at the Doric :z7
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 12, 2013, 12:54:58 PM
 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 12, 2013, 13:31:45 PM
To be fair Jim got it (well half of it) as the book is indeed called the Key Above The Door by Maurice Walsh.

So i'll let you two fight it out for the next question.  :z4

Well done to both btw  :z14
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 12, 2013, 14:02:34 PM
Over to you Jim.
I'm still researching a belter of a question  :z4

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 12, 2013, 14:48:05 PM
OK this one is easy if you Google it so try not to  :z4

What is a Gerrard and where would you find one ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 12, 2013, 15:42:39 PM
Good one Jim!

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 12, 2013, 16:55:25 PM
Liverpool !  :z4 :z4 :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 12, 2013, 18:09:04 PM
 :
Liverpool !  :z4 :z4 :z4

No and its not Moscow either, as In yon daft French bloke
 :z4

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on June 12, 2013, 18:13:47 PM
Could it be Downie ..... usually found waving a big stick :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 12, 2013, 18:30:20 PM
 :z4
Could it be Downie ..... usually found waving a big stick :wink

Mike are you not thinking about a Downey, no nothing to do with Spey casting
 :z4

Jim



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Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 12, 2013, 23:57:07 PM
Moscow's not in France...  :z7
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 13, 2013, 06:28:39 AM
Moscow's not in France...  :z7

No but this daft French bloke is  :wink

"French actor and new Russian citizen Gerard Depardieu"

 :z18

jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 14, 2013, 22:43:25 PM
Nobody picking up on this?
Oh well, a Gerrard is a f**king big strain of Rainbow trout that lives in Canada, eh? (Canadian reference)
Is that right Jim?

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 16, 2013, 14:45:36 PM
That's correct in particular Kottenay Lake, I would class them as the Canuck equivalent of our Ferox as they grow large on a diet of Kokanee salmon.

Over to you Mr  :z1

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 16, 2013, 20:22:19 PM
Feck!
OK, which two beaches does the North Esk flow between when it meets the sea?
Google verbotten!

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on June 17, 2013, 08:04:05 AM
Feck!
OK, which two beaches does the North Esk flow between when it meets the sea?
Google verbotten!

 :z1

Montrose & St Cyrus
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 17, 2013, 08:57:42 AM
Quote
Montrose & St Cyrus
And to get all the points what is Montrose beach known as locally?

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on June 17, 2013, 10:41:56 AM
Stroma? Some of the Cod guys call it this, I belive its the original Norse name.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 17, 2013, 12:55:25 PM
Stroma - nope

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 17, 2013, 13:55:30 PM
Euan

I know the Gable Enders call the dunes the bents. This comes from Agrostis or bentgrass. Never knew there was a nick name for the Beach.

 :z18

Jim 
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 17, 2013, 15:09:32 PM
I always thought that it was the same name as the farm, at least that's what all the locals I talk to call it.
If I'm wrong then it's over to you Peter  :z4

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 17, 2013, 15:22:24 PM
Kinnaber is the estate (and the bottom beat)  on the Montrose side of the Northie where it runs into the sea.

 :z18

Jim    
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on June 17, 2013, 20:23:01 PM
That's the one Jim  :z16
One of these days I'm going to fish the tidal stretch..... :X2

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 17, 2013, 20:27:30 PM
OK over to Peter, that was really to easy for me I was born across the road from Kinnaber, my uncle Jimmy was the keeper there

 :z18

Jim 
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on June 21, 2013, 20:25:54 PM
 There is a Moscow in Northumberland, also a Philadelphia and a NewYork, and a village called Bomarsund, they are on early OS maps, easgach 1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Peter McCallum on June 22, 2013, 07:37:44 AM
There is a Moscow in Northumberland, also a Philadelphia and a NewYork, and a village called Bomarsund, they are on early OS maps, easgach 1

Moscow in ayrshire too!!  i'm of on my hols this week so if someone wants to miove this on as my replacement please do, otherwise it'll be next weekend before the next question. :z18
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 22, 2013, 17:46:46 PM
Moscow in ayrshire too!!  i'm of on my hols this week so if someone wants to miove this on as my replacement please do, otherwise it'll be next weekend before the next question. :z18
OK then, here is a fish identification one to keep us going until Peter gets back..... which fish can move each of its eyes separately, it can have one eye looking the way it's going and one where it's been :?

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 22, 2013, 17:50:05 PM
H,
depending on red wine consumption that will be me.

Edfish. :X2
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 22, 2013, 18:06:38 PM
H,
depending on red wine consumption that will be me.

Edfish. :X2

 :z4 :z4 :z4

Hamish I will guess a flatfish

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 22, 2013, 19:23:11 PM
H,
depending on red wine consumption that will be me.

Edfish. :X2

Smirk.... yup, me too  :wink

:z4 :z4 :z4

Hamish I will guess a flatfish

 :z18

Jim

Bloody good answer Jim and although it's pretty much correct it's not the fish I had in mind.

H
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on June 23, 2013, 15:17:23 PM
Hi H,

Not sure if it's a fish, but a Sea Horse can look both ways.


Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 23, 2013, 19:26:59 PM
it's a fish, Jeroen  :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on June 23, 2013, 21:01:10 PM
Dover sole ,easgach 1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 23, 2013, 21:05:40 PM
Hi H,

Not sure if it's a fish, but a Sea Horse can look both ways.


Jeroen

Is the right answer, well done Jeroen you saved me from having to give another clue  :z16

Over to you  :cool:

H
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on June 24, 2013, 18:55:38 PM
"Catching salmon is a misnomer. The angler does not seek to catch his quarry. The essence of fishing as a sport is that the fisherman delibrately denies himself any and every means of trapping, snaring or netting an unwilling prey into his basket. He sets himself a set of rules which effectively denies him the right to catch a fish and which ensures that success can be arrived at only when the fish catches the angler. The moment there is any deviation from this basic principle then the angler is not fishing - he is poaching."

- who wrote this?
- what is the title of the book?



Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 24, 2013, 19:29:05 PM
OK I'll guess

Hugh Falkus
Salmon fishing

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on June 24, 2013, 20:10:44 PM
Sorry Jim...
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on June 26, 2013, 18:57:29 PM
Here's a hint: the man in question is well known for the special way he tied his salmon flies.


Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 26, 2013, 23:07:04 PM
Jerome,
Was it Richard Waddington?

No idea on the title of the book.

Eddie.

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 27, 2013, 00:25:30 AM
I'm stumped with this one, haven't even got a crappy cheap joke answer, hang on is it a Mr A Shrimp?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 27, 2013, 07:50:48 AM
Jerome,
Was it Richard Waddington?

No idea on the title of the book.

Eddie.



Eddie

Waddingtons book on Salmon Fishing was imaginatively named Waddington on Salmon fishing

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 27, 2013, 08:24:40 AM
He must have stayed up for many a night working on that title. :z4 :z4

Eddie. :z18
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on June 27, 2013, 09:26:08 AM
Jerome,
Was it Richard Waddington?

No idea on the title of the book.

Eddie.


Is the right answer!  :z16 The quote are the last words in his book Catching Salmon.
Over to you, Eddie!


Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 27, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Hans Van Klinken of Klinkhammer fame had another name for his famous fly for Grayling fishing before it was named the klinkhammer.

What was the name originally?

I saw this on a letter written by the man himself with pencil drawing instructions for the fly many years ago in Richard Walkers shop in King Street Aberdeen.

Eddie. :z18 :z18
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 27, 2013, 10:20:10 AM
the Light Tan Caddis ! i saw a pic of that letter (or something similar) somewhere on the net a while ago and for some reason the name stuck in me head. must have been the utter boringness of it that made it stand out...

cheers,
marc
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Goolager on June 27, 2013, 10:23:41 AM
Quote
i saw a pic of that letter (or something similar) somewhere on the net a while ago and for some reason the name stuck in me head

Nice try at disguisingthe fact that you just googled it, you Dirty Duster  :z7

Iain 'twatmobile'
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 27, 2013, 10:44:55 AM
Iain, Marc,

both wrong :X1 :X1

Eddie.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 27, 2013, 17:09:02 PM
how can Ian be wrong if he didn't even offer an answer ?! (or is it just a 'principle' thing ?)  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 27, 2013, 19:57:04 PM
Iain, Marc,

both wrong :X1 :X1

Eddie.

You sure Eddie  :wink I'm sure I  saw something once by the man himself on Sexyloops that agreed with Marc
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 27, 2013, 20:57:31 PM
Jim,
it may well have been called that in some communications but the name on this note that I read was something else and I have seen it referred to another fly.

It was called the once and away, apparently you cast it once and it went away.

Marc,

your go.

Eddie. :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on June 27, 2013, 22:18:51 PM
Jim,
it may well have been called that in some communications but the name on this note that I read was something else and I have seen it referred to another fly.

It was called the once and away, apparently you cast it once and it went away.

Marc,

your go.

Eddie. :z16


Fair play to you Eddie,as they say in Inversneckie you were right enough  :z4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NAmtbK7uNwc
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 27, 2013, 22:57:26 PM

It was called the once and away, apparently you cast it once and it went away.
:z4 :z4 :z4

or, from Hans: "I called the fly the "Once and Away", since I had a great deal of difficulty in getting the pattern to float again after it had been dragged down by a fish." (cdc and fish slime...  :X2)
the whole story and sbs of the Once and Away here - http://www.danica.com/flytier/hklinken/once_and_away.htm

hmmm, this'll be a two part question:
1) who came up with the term 'Cul de Canard' ?
) what exactly was he referring to ?

 :z13,
marc
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 27, 2013, 23:07:02 PM
Marc,
was it Marc Pettijean?

Was he referring to ducks arse?

Eddie. :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Noel kelly on June 27, 2013, 23:08:00 PM
Marc,
was it Marc Pettijean?

Was he referring to ducks arse?

Eddie. :z8

No idea whom but cul is indeed arse!
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 27, 2013, 23:11:29 PM
Marc,
great article. I was remembering snippets from a long time ago and I myself am getting old so the memory is somewhat foggy. Many thanks for the great explanation of once and away.

Eddie. :z18 :z18
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 27, 2013, 23:18:00 PM
Ed, nope and only indirectly, so nope.

yes gents. 'cul' is indeed a vulgarish' term for arse in french.

ps- Van Klinken's article - Ed, i find it always better to go to the source (when possible) rather than variants from a slap-head...   :X2 :X1 :z4

cheers,
marc
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 27, 2013, 23:24:14 PM
Marc,
trust us Scots to only guess the arse bit, oh well off to bed now. Will have to think about the rest.

Eddie. :z18
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 28, 2013, 08:54:50 AM
Marc,
trust us Scots to only guess the arse bit

don't worry, it's international...  :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on June 28, 2013, 11:23:47 AM
Marc,
I have to confess that I have cheated and looked this up on my computer.

Was it Henry Bresson? :oops :oops

Eddie.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Dutchfly on June 28, 2013, 11:59:40 AM
don't worry, it's international...  :z16

You got that right, Marc. If you ever visit Amsterdam, you'll find out that they know everything there is to know on that subject over there.
(On the other hand, maybe it's best if you don't find that out...:X2)


Jeroen
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on June 28, 2013, 13:09:22 PM
that's correct Ed, Henri Bresson from the Jura region (near the Alps). good on ya for 'fessing up on how you found it  :z16
one wouldn't know it (if you're not a frog) but the guy had an enormous influence on fly fishing/fly tying/fly design in France.

ok, that was easy. part two is the most interesting.  :wink (at least to me)

Jeroen, i've been to Amsterdam. a butt's a butt and what one may or not do with them is the same anywhere you go...  :z4

cheers,
marc
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 01, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
OK, so it's not really my turn but I can't do what I'm about to do after I post the fishing report about the week that Hamish and I just had.
So here we go.

In a "Where's Waldo?" kind of quiz can you name the following locations?


(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/13_01_07_13_11_34_47.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=937)



(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/13_01_07_13_11_36_47.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=938)



(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/13_01_07_13_11_39_28.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=939)

I loved the first location. It was like an Alfa advert / Top Gear photo shoot, but the idea is to name that damn not admire the Alfa (although you can feel free to do that if you want! :z4)

Good luck!

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 01, 2013, 12:28:31 PM
Is the first one backwater reservoir?

Eddie :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 01, 2013, 12:35:25 PM
You're not fooling us ...... it's an Alfa advert :z4  :z4  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on July 01, 2013, 13:01:18 PM
HEY !!! THE CDC QUESTION THING ISN'T FINISHED YET !!! :z4 :z4 :z4

answer coming tonight if none find the answer...

cheers,
marc
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 01, 2013, 13:08:58 PM
Having been an Alfa owener, can I ask, how long did it take you to push it to each location ;)

Would it be on the Conon system by any chance?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 01, 2013, 16:47:56 PM
Quote
Is the first one backwater reservoir?

Eddie

Nope.

Quote
Having been an Alfa owner, can I ask, how long did it take you to push it to each location

Rob, I DROVE to each one, no pushing required!  :z4

Quote
Would it be on the Conon system by any chance?

Close, but not cigar time yet.

Quote
HEY !!! THE CDC QUESTION THING ISN'T FINISHED YET !!!   

Sorry Marc.... :oops

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on July 01, 2013, 20:37:05 PM
Is the 1st Picture Benevean dam

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 01, 2013, 21:01:46 PM

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_01_07_13_9_01_27.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=946)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 01, 2013, 22:10:18 PM
Quote
Is the 1st Picture Benevean dam

 

Jim

Way to go Jim!  :z16

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 01, 2013, 23:04:23 PM
HEY !!! THE CDC QUESTION THING ISN'T FINISHED YET !!! :z4 :z4 :z4

answer coming tonight if none find the answer...

cheers,
marc

Is it something to do with the preen gland Marc?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 02, 2013, 10:58:07 AM
Way to go Jim!  :z16

 :z1

Indeed, well done Jim  :z16
If anyone gets the location of the second pic in the Alfa version of 'where's waldo?' I'd be uber impressed, third one isn't exactly easy either........ I was there and I'm having difficulty remembering  :z7

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 02, 2013, 11:32:06 AM
Quote
I was there and I'm having difficulty remembering 

Ah the age related, short term memory problem... :z7

It is tricky so lets just say it's on the Beauly and it's the view point above a hydro scheme. The downstream view looks like this

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/13_02_07_13_11_31_42.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=947)

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 02, 2013, 12:24:06 PM
Aigas Dam?

Eddie. :z8 :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 02, 2013, 12:49:12 PM
Quote
Aigas Dam?

Eddie. 

See now it wasn't that hard. :z4
Nice one Eddie.

So where is the last one?

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 02, 2013, 13:01:09 PM
3rd one nae idea  ???

Eddie.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on July 02, 2013, 13:54:40 PM
ok, to finish off the CDC quiz.
1) who came up with the term 'Cul de Canard' ?
 as noted earlier, the author is Henri Bresson.

as for the second part,
2) what exactly was he referring to ?
he was referring to a fly design he came up with which turned out to be an amazing pattern (even though it don't look like much...)
before this pattern, the term CDC was used in its original and 'less vulgar' form, Croupion de Canard. 'Croupion meaning 'Rump'. if we look at this region closely ( :z4) and where these feathers actually come from, the Uropygial gland situated on top of the tail feathers and not at the 'Cul' below... the original designation, although a bit less 'haw-haw funny'  than the latter seems more appropriate.
 (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/1362_02_07_13_1_42_09.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=948)
more gland info here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uropygial_gland

a wee bit of info on the man in english here- http://www.gourmetfly.com/Tourjur3.htm

and here's the best i could find that shows the original pattern, materials, and tying instructions.

thread- yellow
abdomen- swan quill
thorax/wing/legs) cdc palmered, trimmed after completion if needed/wanted, simples !

sure, this was more for the tying geeks but i thought it would make for some interesting trivia.

cheers,
marc

ps- do i get a prize because no-one found the response ?  :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 02, 2013, 15:03:38 PM
ps- do i get a prize because no-one found the response ?  :z1


No ....... :z7
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on July 02, 2013, 17:17:18 PM
ok. in that case it's your turn  :z7
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on July 02, 2013, 17:36:30 PM
Aigas Dam?

Eddie. :z8 :z8

Kilmorack ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 02, 2013, 18:10:41 PM
Nope.

Clue?
North of dam 1

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on July 02, 2013, 20:59:45 PM
Nope.

Clue?
North of dam 1

 :z1

Mullardoch  ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 02, 2013, 22:42:25 PM
Quote
Mullardoch  ?

Warmer!
Clue 2. The section down to the dam is more like a river and you need to show your papers before you are allowed through the gate.

Full report on the week, including some amazing photos once this one is solved.  :z4

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 03, 2013, 08:18:29 AM
and you need to show your papers before you are allowed through the gate.

Colditz? or Dundee ;)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 03, 2013, 10:47:10 AM
Quote
Colditz? or Dundee

 :z4 :z4 :z4
Oh and there is a curfew too....

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 03, 2013, 18:57:05 PM
Colditz maybe.... but Dundee (as I recall) you need papers to be allowed out :shock :! :z4

The loch in question is in a private glen with a bloody great dam at the end of a very, very long road. It's near me (Beauly) and it's very, very lovely there.
Now that's a dam (see what I did there :? :!) good series of clues.

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 03, 2013, 20:30:29 PM
The one at the end of the glen is not the one we fished but does sound like one of the ones the Dambusters attacked. And H is right, it's HUGE!

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 03, 2013, 21:01:20 PM
Is that the one at the top end of Beinn a Mheadhoin Euan? ...... The midgies are real friendly up there :z4

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 03, 2013, 23:00:29 PM
No Mike, further north.

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 03, 2013, 23:15:47 PM
The dam at the bottom of Beannacharan, I think it's up at the top of the river Farrar? ...... also has midgies :z4

I'm guessing based on North, but please make allowances for the Kiwi incomer and yes ..... I have used Google to help me this time :oops

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 03, 2013, 23:30:42 PM
The dam at the bottom of Beannacharan, I think it's up at the top of the river Farrar? ...... also has midgies :z4

I'm guessing based on North, but please make allowances for the Kiwi incomer and yes ..... I have used Google to help me this time :oops

Cheers
Mike

Is the right answer :z16 I was there again myself today with the winner of one of my WTT days.

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Euan Innes on July 03, 2013, 23:53:50 PM
Quote
The dam at the bottom of Beannacharan, I think it's up at the top of the river Farrar? ...... also has midgies

Bullseye Mike.
Very tricky question, sorry guys. The closed glen thing has probably put a lot of people off going there, but trust me (and H), if you are up there get a ticket and fish it. Very pretty and not that bad at £45 for two anglers, boat and outboard.
I'll get on to the report for the week sometime tomorrow. And yes, more Alfa pics!  :z4 :z4 :z4

The dam at the top of the glen is the Loch Monar dam. The tarmac stops there, trust me! If you do go for a days fishing take a camera and go all the way to Loch Monar - Scotland at it's finest.

 :z1
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 04, 2013, 10:21:17 AM
Main question: What is this fly called?

Out of interest: In your experience, does it work on the River Don and if so, how and when would you try it?

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/image-folder/silver-invicta-fly.jpg)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 04, 2013, 10:53:30 AM
Main question: What is this fly called?

Out of interest: In your experience, does it work on the River Don and if so, how and when would you try it?


Silver Invicta?

I love invicta patterns - pearly bodied ones especially.

On the Don, as a wet fly in sizes 14 & 16 it's always been productive for me. Sea trout and finnock are especially fond of invicta patterns - guess it's the little flash.

I'd use an invicta as a hunting wet fly pattern, and have great faith that it would raise fish at any time of the year.

cheers
iain
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 04, 2013, 11:03:17 AM
Correct Iain, it is a Silver Invicta :z16

I have a lot of confidence in this fly too :wink

Over to you for the next question :cool:

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 04, 2013, 13:00:19 PM
Right-oh, a 2 and a bit part musical question.

Theme tunes from british made TV shows about fishing.

Name each show, and the presenters.

1. http://www.adaa.org.uk/mystery-theme1.mp3 (http://www.adaa.org.uk/mystery-theme1.mp3)
2. http://www.adaa.org.uk/mystery-theme2.mp3 (http://www.adaa.org.uk/mystery-theme2.mp3)

and a sort of bonus question. This was a terrible show, and i'm ashamed I've watched each one
3. http://www.adaa.org.uk/mystery-theme3.mp3  (http://www.adaa.org.uk/mystery-theme3.mp3)

I might or might not be lenient with naming on 1.

cheers
iain
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 04, 2013, 13:54:25 PM
Iain,
Hooked on Scotland, later Fishing
Screaming reels
Strange programme about 2 weirdos fishing against each other in strange locations and starving a lot.

Eddie :X2 :X2
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on July 04, 2013, 14:03:29 PM
1. Hooked – Paul Young

2. Screeming Reels - Nick Fisher

3. 2 nutters fishing for points to get food  :oops

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 04, 2013, 14:04:18 PM
Iain,
Hooked on Scotland, later Fishing
Screaming reels
Strange programme about 2 weirdos fishing against each other in strange locations and starving a lot.

Eddie :X2 :X2

Correct show for 1 & 2 - and the presenters are?

Wrong for number 3. You were thinking of "Reel Wars", which I kinda enjoyed.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 04, 2013, 14:04:56 PM
1. Hooked – Paul Young
2. Screeming Reels - Nick Fisher
3. 2 nutters fishing for points to get food  :oops

Alex -
Aye
Aye
Naw!

2/3...
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Goolager on July 04, 2013, 14:07:23 PM
Trout nabout
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Goolager on July 04, 2013, 14:08:34 PM
Quote
2 weirdos fishing against each other in strange locations and starving a lot

sounds like me and Noel - apart from the starving bit  :oops
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 04, 2013, 14:33:57 PM
Trout nabout

'Twas indeed.  It was cringeworthy.

here's a sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JCbey2heD0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JCbey2heD0)

Alex - I think you got the right answer, so it's your turn for a question :-)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 04, 2013, 14:34:24 PM
sounds like me and Noel - apart from the starving bit  :oops

:-)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on July 04, 2013, 15:00:05 PM
OK Iain here goes

Guess most of us over the years have fished with the following fly.

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/833_04_07_13_2_59_36.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=980)

1. What is it called.
 
2. Where was it created.

3. why is it called what it is.


Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on July 04, 2013, 15:43:51 PM
1. Siver butcher
2. Englandshire
3. Created by Mr Dewhurst and Mr Moon, Dewhurst was a Butcher


 :z18

Jim   
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 04, 2013, 15:48:21 PM
Dewhurst was a Butcher


Hence the blue wing, to represent the blue and white apron I believe, and the red tail to represent , well, all things butchery.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on July 04, 2013, 15:53:12 PM
Hi Jim

1. pretty close but I was looking for it's original name.

2. need to be a bit more precise  :wink

3. no



Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 04, 2013, 15:57:09 PM
Wasn't the original called "The Moon Fly"?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on July 04, 2013, 15:58:34 PM
Well done Rob.

you are correct it was called The Moon Fly prior to 1838.

so question 1 & 3 goes to Rob, need to get the answer to Q2 though.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Catman on July 04, 2013, 16:08:29 PM
Hi Rob

Looks like it is over to you.

The Butcher was invented over 150 years ago. It was created in Tunbridge Wells, by two gentlemen one of whom was a butcher.

The Butcher was originally named Moon's Fly, after one of the two co-inventors, Moon and
Jewhurst.  However, the name was changed in 1838 to the occupation of Jewhurst (a butcher).


The colours of the Butcher are supposed to represent the hallmarks of his trade blood and the blue apron.

Alex
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 08, 2013, 10:35:10 AM
Rob is a bit slow ..... next question open to somebody else :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 08, 2013, 14:07:28 PM
Rob is a bit slow ..... next question open to somebody else :z16

Some of us are at work, despite it being a Bank Holiday ;)

Give me a few minutes and I will be back with a question...just have a client kicking about..
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 08, 2013, 14:09:48 PM
Great stuff :z16

Don't kick clients about, they don't like it :z4

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 08, 2013, 14:14:09 PM
Right, probably an easy one, but I can't think of anything just now...

Ok, the IPN was a fly created by a local Angler:

What was his name
What does IPN stand for and
Why was it created.

Cheers
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 08, 2013, 16:52:29 PM
Rob,
I used to make the IPN for Richard Walker in King street many years ago so it would be unfair of me to answer the rest of the question but I would ask you this. How can you tell an original IPN from an imitation?

Eddie :X2 :X2
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 08, 2013, 17:01:55 PM
How can you tell an original IPN from an imitation?

Good question...perhaps we should add that to the original question :)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 08, 2013, 18:29:51 PM
Rob,
go ahead and add that to your original question.

Eddie.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Steven Sinclair on July 09, 2013, 00:42:45 AM
Idiot proof nymph.

Red thread underneath the fritz body which was wrapped sparsely to allow the thread to show through.

Cheers

Steven.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 09, 2013, 07:01:56 AM
Steven,
you are almost right. Try and remember the colour.

Eddie. :z16 :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Steven Sinclair on July 09, 2013, 08:35:59 AM
Hmmm I'd always tied them with red but that may have had something to do with never bloody listening to you :-P

Ok I'll go with orange...

Cheers,

Steven.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Steven Sinclair on July 09, 2013, 10:00:49 AM
Rob,

Just realised I missed a few points out.

Was it invented on the premise that any idiot could tie one on the end of his line and catch stocked rainbows?

And also if memory serves me correctly the fly was a collaboration between Magnus, Richard Walker and my old man?

Cheers,

Steven.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 09, 2013, 10:13:05 AM
Rob,

Just realised I missed a few points out.

Was it invented on the premise that any idiot could tie one on the end of his line and catch stocked rainbows?

And also if memory serves me correctly the fly was a collaboration between Magnus, Richard Walker and my old man?

Cheers,

Steven.

So you had inside information!! lol... Not quite right regarding the name..Yes, it was the Idiot Prrof Nymph, but it was not that any idiot could catch on it...but close :)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on July 09, 2013, 11:46:13 AM
Any idiot could tie it?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 09, 2013, 12:35:07 PM
Any idiot could tie it?

Yip..I believe it was "invented" for the fly tying courses ran at that school on the Lang Stracht.

Over to you :)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on July 09, 2013, 14:19:04 PM
Oops didn't mean to do that and i've nothing ready......

Ok easy one

Not so very long ago there was a competition running to name the best fishing hotels in the country.  Who was the main sponsor and what was the name of the fly they produced to run alongside this?

No google cheats.  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on July 09, 2013, 22:40:13 PM
no idea about the fly or sponsor but the Colquhonnie in Strathdon must be the hotel.  :z4 :z4 :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on July 09, 2013, 23:47:51 PM
Believe it may once have been mentioned as a finalist but not sure it ever won it, we're talking a few years ago Marc btw.

Anyway not looking for named hotels, but the main competition sponsor and the name of the fly?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on July 10, 2013, 18:54:08 PM
was sarcasm mate. it's without a doubt the worst place ever. a real sh***hole...
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Goolager on July 10, 2013, 19:22:11 PM
 :z4 :z4 :z4

Tres bien

Yan
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on July 11, 2013, 13:30:47 PM
Sorry Marc  :oops
Long long time since i was last up there and it was ok back then, but time marches on......... :z4

Anyway still no guesses to the questions???
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 11, 2013, 15:00:49 PM
Alan,
I gave in and tried cheating on Google. And I still don't know the answer.

Eddie. :X1 :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on July 11, 2013, 17:14:38 PM
Ok wee clue..........
'Glen of Tranquility'  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 11, 2013, 23:18:25 PM
Glenmorangie.

 :z16 :z16
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on July 12, 2013, 13:41:08 PM
Correct, and the fly was?  :z8
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Rob Brownfield on July 12, 2013, 13:58:33 PM
Correct, and the fly was?  :z8

A salmon one? ;)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Steven Sinclair on July 12, 2013, 16:18:04 PM
The whisky fly...

Cheers,

Steven.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on July 15, 2013, 13:06:32 PM
It was the 'Morangie Pennel guys.
Ok who's next?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 18, 2013, 08:33:07 AM
It was the 'Morangie Pennel guys.
Ok who's next?

not really general knowledge, but can anyone tell me what's weird about this photo?

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/3_18_07_13_8_32_35.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1040)

iain
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 18, 2013, 08:50:33 AM
The reflection doesn't match the background ............ there's a whole chunk of hill type land to the left of the hut refection that isn't in the top area.

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 18, 2013, 08:55:27 AM
The reflection doesn't match the background ............ there's a whole chunk of hill type land to the left of the hut refection that isn't in the top area.

Cheers
Mike

aye, but why...
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 18, 2013, 09:08:50 AM
Two photos, same place on different days?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 18, 2013, 11:37:16 AM
Two photos, same place on different days?

One photo, same time, same place, same photo - i turned it upside down, and it looked more real than the real one!

this is the correctly-oriented pic

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/3_18_07_13_11_38_10.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=1043)

Need to think of a proper fishing related question now

Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 18, 2013, 11:52:56 AM
 :z4  :z4  :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Marc Fauvet on July 18, 2013, 12:51:36 PM
Need to think of a proper fishing related question now

actually, it was. or rather a demonstration that most anglers don't know their top from bottom...  :X5

 :z4 :X2 :z4
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on December 14, 2013, 15:46:34 PM
Where would you fish in Aberdeenshire in the middle of December?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Noel kelly on December 14, 2013, 16:02:18 PM
Interesting as I hope to go somewhere tomorrow. I normally fish Lochter or Haddo in winter and really like both but maybe its time to try somewhere else. Anywhere fishing particularly well? 
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on December 14, 2013, 16:09:03 PM
Off the wall choice might be Midmar if the weather is still mild and if it's open......
http://www.midmarfishery.co.uk/
Enjoy the photos of a well known forum contributor and pie eater in the gallery pages  :wink

H :cool:
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on December 14, 2013, 16:22:05 PM
Was going to head out tomorrow, but blowing a hooley and not a good forecast wind wise for Sunday   :z10

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Noel kelly on December 14, 2013, 18:38:25 PM
Off the wall choice might be Midmar if the weather is still mild and if it's open......
http://www.midmarfishery.co.uk/
Enjoy the photos of a well known forum contributor and pie eater in the gallery pages  :wink

H :cool:


ha might just try there. Think I can guess who you mean!
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on June 26, 2019, 16:50:14 PM
Bump for this old topic and I'm sure there's loads of questions we can dream up yet, so i'll give you  one to get the ball rolling again

If you were to stand at the source of the most western water that eventually flows into the Moray Firth, how close to the Atlantic Ocean would you be?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on June 26, 2019, 19:03:33 PM
I'll have a go.... if we are talking natural flow then I believe it's possible you'd be within spitting distance of Camusrory,  looking towards Knoydart, down Loch Nevis from the top of the conical munro Sgurr na Ciche.
Here the North Eastern slopes of Sgurr na Ciche fall away into a burn that ends up in Loch Quoich, which then flows to Loch Poulary, then down the Garry system to Loch Oich, down the River Oich to Loch Ness and finally down the River Ness to the Moray Firth.
It's a bloody long way West when you consider that you're roughly three miles to Loch Nevis (a Sea loch) from the top of Sgurr na Ciche, the Minch and thus the Atlantic.

It's a possibility, at least. If we're talking all natural direction of flow.....

H


Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 04, 2019, 20:47:10 PM
I suspect that Allan has been too busy fishing/talking/tying flies to remember to check on this thread..... so I'll fire another question up there for folk to have a crack at  :wink

Simple enough, identify the fish species from the following information:

1.  This species - in Europe at least - is largely anadromous like Salmon and Sea Trout.
2.  It is now illegal to fish (by rod and line or commercially) for this species in the British Isles.
3.  It remains one of the least understood fishes in Europe, yet was once commonplace and a desirable foodstuff.
4.  This species is not the Sturgeon.

No cheating :! :!

H
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jeff Donovan on July 04, 2019, 22:30:40 PM
I suspect that Allan has been too busy fishing/talking/tying flies to remember to check on this thread..... so I'll fire another question up there for folk to have a crack at  :wink

Simple enough, identify the fish species from the following information:

1.  This species - in Europe at least - is largely anadromous like Salmon and Sea Trout.
2.  It is now illegal to fish (by rod and line or commercially) for this species in the British Isles.
3.  It remains one of the least understood fishes in Europe, yet was once commonplace and a desirable foodstuff.
4.  This species is not the Sturgeon.

No cheating :! :!

H

Just seen this thread, good possibilities.  :z16  A wild guess from me would be shad.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on July 05, 2019, 04:10:56 AM
Twait Shad?

Eddie
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 05, 2019, 10:02:50 AM
A wild guess from me would be shad.

Twait Shad?
Clearly, I made this one far too easy  :wink Yes,  either the Allis Shad or the Twaite Shad would be the correct answer  :z16

I have a soft spot for the Shad, I caught a few fishing on the River Wye nearly 30 years ago when I was a student working with the Welsh National Rivers Authority.  Where our American cousins have Tarpon we have a smaller member of the Herring family, the Shad.  Ah well.....

H
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Terry Coging on July 05, 2019, 17:26:17 PM
I used to catch a lot of Shad on the Wye when Salmon fishing. I had a mobile home near Ross on Wye so spent a lot of time on the river between 20 and 40 years ago. The shad - we called them Summer fish, were abundant and a nuisance when using the big fly rod. They ran to about 1 1/2 lb and in my view were poor eating. I have fished for shad in France a few times on the R Aualne where they ran to over 4lb - a tarpon indeed!  Until about 5 years ago there was no need for a license but now a migratory rod license is required.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jeff Donovan on July 05, 2019, 23:06:12 PM
Moons ago, the lower river Towy used to be festooned with the blighters, very annoying when hoping to connect with a fresh sea run brownie.... :X2
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 07, 2019, 09:25:37 AM
Until Jeff or Eddie come up with a question....

..... have another from me  :z7

Name the fishing fly.

Which well known tradtional pattern, conceived in the 19th century as a caddis pattern, has spawned flashy derivatives that (alongside the original) still find a place on trout, sea trout and salmon fishers leaders :?
Second clue - a small British car manufacturer (pretty much defunct by WW2) used the same name.

H
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Steven Sinclair on July 07, 2019, 10:11:23 AM
Invicta

 :z18

Steven.
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Fred Hay on July 07, 2019, 13:21:13 PM
How's about 'Invicta' - in its various forms ?

Opps too late !!
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 07, 2019, 18:14:00 PM
Invicta is the right answer - well done both  :z16
Someone else can set something now  :wink
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Jim Eddie on July 07, 2019, 20:03:28 PM
Adams ?

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Terry Coging on July 09, 2019, 09:14:42 AM
Invicta?
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 10, 2019, 19:59:38 PM
The correct answer was Invicta  :z16

Now, would someone else set a question :? Please :!
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on July 10, 2019, 21:28:05 PM
what firm was the fore runner of Greys of Alnwick? Derek Roxborough
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 11, 2019, 00:08:19 AM
Technically I think the forerunner would have to be Hardy Bros., Malcolm Grey left Hardy in '68 to form a new eponymous brand that was  'Greys of Alnwick' but most tackle was simply branded 'Greys'.

A lot of the Greys blanks came from Harrison (if I remember rightly) and they made some super fly rods; I have a custom Greys GPRL 10' 7/8wt which is on 'loan' to my Dad and it's a rod I wont part with - excpet to lend it to Dad...obviously. Sure it's slow and heavy by todays standards, but it's a beast  :z13

Anyway, back to Greys.

Things turned full circle when Hardy bought Greys in 1999... but Malcolm Grey came out of retirement in the 00s and formed 'Malcolm Grey of Alnwick' once again producing fine rods. I believe that was wound up in 2015 or 2016.

H
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Mike Barrio on July 11, 2019, 14:57:00 PM
Quite a few UK tackle brands are now owned by US companies such as Pure Fishing ............. including Hardy and Greys.

http://www.purefishing.com/our-brands/ (http://www.purefishing.com/our-brands/)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on July 11, 2019, 17:05:26 PM
this was a purely cane rod builder, some say better than Hardy,Derek Roxborough
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Hamish Young on July 11, 2019, 19:32:21 PM
this was a purely cane rod builder, some say better than Hardy...
Hmmm.... rubs chin.... that's maybe a slightly different question to the one I answered.

There was Tom Moran (who passed away in 2014) who ended up working for Hardy Greys about a decade ago but had previously sold direct, worked for Partridge and spent a number of years crafting the finest split cane rods in the 'States with Thomas & Thomas. I saw one of his rods once, just a work of art, truly a great craftsman. But he was hardly a forerunner of Greys of Alnwick.

I'd plump for Walker Bampton, off the cuff they're the only company I think of who made high end split cane rods before Greys were formed in Alnwick.

H
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Allan Liddle on July 12, 2019, 13:38:31 PM
Ha ha, shit yes I totally forgot all about this as I've been so bloody busy recently.

In answer to my original question: Hamish you were close but no cigar as there are two places a good bit further north where a water that eventually runs (under natural flow) into the Moray Firth is within 3 miles of the Atlantic the closest of which is the very head waters of the Upper Cassley above Loch Gorm and the loch directly below this Fionn Loch.  Both have feeder streams that emerge pretty close to Loch Beg, which itself is the upper extension of Loch Glencoul, joining up with Loch Glendubh above Kylesku bridge. 

Anyway no idea on the rod maker so i'll leave this one to you guys, least the thread is back up and running :)
Title: Re: General Knowledge - Fly Fishing
Post by: Derek Roxborough on July 12, 2019, 14:51:01 PM
Walker Bampton, they had the premises before Greys took over, I worked in Alnwick and they were just up the high street, There was another cane builder at Shilbottle and another at Chatton, so you are right Hamish, Derek Roxborough