Fishing The Fly Scotland
Index => Rivers & Lochs => Topic started by: Paul Rankine on 07/06/2010 at 21:32
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Hi all,
Just a short post to say that I had a bit of success this afternoon ,(day off work , yahoo !).
Fishing a coastal spot not too far from Aberdeen.
I'll give you a clue , it was beach ! :z4
(http://i49.tinypic.com/35m45xf.jpg)
About 3lbs on a 1/2 " silver needle tube.
Paul :z4
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is this legal :z8 ??? :z8
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Nice fish there Paul. Any chance of a close up of the fly? Also a wee run down on what tackle and tactics you used to catch the seatrout in question?
Cheers
Matt
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is this legal :z8 ??? :z8
Only if you have written permission from the owner of the fishing rights at that point.
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Hi ,
Yes it's legal. I,m not in the habit of fishing illegally! :z4 :z4 :z4
Matt, I'll put something together.
Cheers,
Paul.
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Hi ,
Yes it's legal. I,m not in the habit of fishing illegally! :z4 :z4 :z4
Matt, I'll put something together.
Cheers,
Paul.
Careful, that is not strictly true..there are far to many exceptions to say "it is legal".
Judging by the photo I know where Paul was fishing and it is legal to fish for sea trout in the sea if you have a ticket to do so in that veru clearly defined area. This is available as a day ticket, or a season ticket if you live local.
Many other places around this coast will see you potentially at risk of being lifted.
There is a long running dispute over the legality of fishing for sea trout at several areas close to Aberdeen so please be careful, I would hate to see someone lifted for this offence as it carries a very hefty fine.
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Hi,
Rob. What is not strictly true ? There you go again making assumptions ! Nice of you to correct me though.
I do assure everyone the sea trout was caught legally .
The beach you say you know is not in fact where the fish was caught at all. And I,m no telling where .
Find your own spots ,it's not that difficult with a bit of investigation.
Paul.
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No assumptions, the question was is fishing for sea trout in the sea legal? You answered yes. This is not strictly true. Simples!
There are many places round Aberdeen where it is not legal. Other places you need a ticket of some kind. Then there is written permission.
That is all I was pointing out and quantified that some areas would leave anglers breaking the law.
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Hi Guys,
I was browsing another forum dedicated to Silver tourists and came upon a recent thread concerning an accidental seatrout capture in the salt.The article contained a photo of the seatrout.
After comparison with the photo contained here I wondered if in fact this fish is a seatrout.
Few spots below lateral line, maxillary does not extend to the rear of a line below rear of eye and there seems to be a wrist . None of these indicate seatrout. The fish is of a reasonable size for a seatrout and I would have thought would have had more pronounced seatrout characteristics.
Any thoughts on this ?
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Hello once again,
Just browsed thru some of my own photos and attach one that highlights one of the points that I made.
These 2 were from the salt also , please note the distinct difference with the maxillary alignment on these in comparison to the fish mentioned in this thread.(http://i47.tinypic.com/35aogh2.jpg)
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Interesting observation. I am sure someone will be able to come along and shed more light on this.
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Rob,
You answered yes. This is not strictly true. Simples!
I answered yes , my fish was legal. Simples . You have mis read what I wrote.
And all because you had a run in with the ADAA over fishing the Don estuary without a permit ? :oops
Paul.
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Aceron,
The fish you posted are clearly sea trout, I am not so sure about Pauls fish. Only way to make a call really would be to count the scales. Pauls fish has few spots on the gill plate and few spots generally, I would expect to see more on a sea trout and the maxillary bone is very close to the rear of the eye. Hard one to call.
Cheers
Ben
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And all because you had a run in with the ADAA over fishing the Don estuary without a permit ? :oops
I do hope you are not suggesting I have poached the ADAA water? I trust you are a little more sensible that that.
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Hi Ben,
I agree, a hard one to call without seeing and handling the actual fish. The potential to catch a small grilse certainly exists with these being fairly common nowadays.
No matter what it was ,something silver from the briny is usually hard won and more especially worthy of celebration considering it was taken by fly.
Alan
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Hi Ben,
I agree, a hard one to call without seeing and handling the actual fish. The potential to catch a small grilse certainly exists with these being fairly common nowadays.
No matter what it was ,something silver from the briny is usually hard won and more especially worthy of celebration considering it was taken by fly.
Alan
I had a salmon this year from the Dee that weighed in at 2lb 7oz, not a thin fish just small, beautifully formed and proportioned and quite spotted but definitely a salmon.
There are a few spots where I do a bit of salt fishing for sea trout on permit (nowhere near here) and I have found that if you can get to them whilst they are still actively feeding rather than simply holding close to the coast in preparation to run the rivers then they are viscious. Totally different in fish the salt to what they are in the river, not so spooky and very very aggressive. Sea trout in the salt is one of if not my favourite types of fishing in the UK.
Cheers
Ben
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Have to agree Ben..I used to do a lot of this down the coast a little although not on the fly as the fish tended to be a long chuck off the shore, but they would slam into Abu Krills and then go airbourne!
I am hopefully off to Finland towards the end of the year for some Pike action, but we have looked at a couple of days Salty Sea Trouting and can't wait!
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Aceron,
The fish you posted are clearly sea trout, I am not so sure about Pauls fish. Only way to make a call really would be to count the scales. Pauls fish has few spots on the gill plate and few spots generally, I would expect to see more on a sea trout and the maxillary bone is very close to the rear of the eye. Hard one to call.
Cheers
Ben
Any chance this could be a sea run Rainbow (steelhead)? I have never seen one so I don't know what distinguishing features to look for but it would fit with the maxilliary alignment would it not?
Irvine
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Hi All,
It's just the way the fish looks in the photo. I'll try and post one from my camera phone .It's a sea trout.
Paul.
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100% Sea-Trout in my opinion.
Paul you have no right to catch such a fish from the briney let alone on a flee (when you out again?) :wink
Iain
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Hi All,
Sorry for the delay in posting the piccie. It's on my work phone which is at work while I,m not.
Been laid up with a bit of a medical problem Iain so just recuperating at the moment. The fish looks a bit grilse like in the first picture but as all will see in the picture to come it is a sea trout. No question. :wink
Paul.
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Hi All,
Two pics of the sea trout before it gets eaten tonight.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/sx0qif.jpg)
Note position of centre of the eye to the edge of the maxillary.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2dc91sl.jpg)
Note square caudal fin.
The scale count was 16 which again makes it a sea trout.
For those who have difficulty in identifying salmon from sea trout this is a good site.
http://www.fishingnet.com/sea_trout_recognition.htm
Paul.
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Paul,
are you on the mend yet?
Iain