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Title: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Jay Scott on 04/11/2009 at 21:46

Hi Guys,..

Well with the river season now drawn to an end im sure  a few of you will be spending a lot more time at the tying bench especially with the early nights rolling in and the recent weather we've been having  :shock. Just wondering what everyone is tying? a couple variants of your most productive salmon fly for the season?.... a couple bright lures for the forthcoming cold weather?.. and i'm sure a few of you will be stocking up for some winter Pike trips  :z7.

I usually try to set a goal for my winter months... nothing too hard, i dont want it to effect my enjoyment but usually just a wee guide instead of variety of random choices which often result in my vice area looking like a bomb site  :z4, Going to try build up a larger armoury of more natural patterns this winter and hopefully improve on my technique.. i say hopefully with great enthusiasm  :wink.

So anyway would be nice to hear what everyone else is tying up and hear if anyone else has goals they wish to acheive this winter.. Hopefully we might get a good selection of photos too, would nice to see a large variety!

 :z16

Jay
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Peter McCallum on 04/11/2009 at 22:01
Depends if FF&FT bring back the tying league. If not I'll fill my boxes with too many flies if they do I'll not get my boxes even to fishing level!! :z4 :z4

Hogs, Hares ears, Sculpins, zonkers, Dun wing duns are some of the necessary medicine.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Jay Scott on 04/11/2009 at 22:09

I saw on the Fly Forums that they will be bringing it out start of 2010... should be details in next months issue.

Jay
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 04/11/2009 at 22:58
I have a list as long as my arm to tie up for next season, here are just a few of the things i will be tying:

Traffic light buzzers
Traffic light cormorants
Diawl Bachs
Traffic light Diawl bachs
2 tone blobs
Deer hair blobs
Bibio snatchers
Bibio Hoppers
Bibio Hooper Boobys
The list is endless  :z4
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 04/11/2009 at 23:19
Woolly Buugers in Black, & Brown
Madonnas in Black, Yellow & Brown
Butt Monkeys
Klinks in various sizes in Tan, grey, black, brown & various olive shades
Paraduns as above
GH GRHE's
black bead biot nymphs
Poly winged spinners in various shades
and spiders, lots and lots of spiders!!

Salmon stuff will be Golden Gunn tubes, gold cascades on tubes & doubles, Allys Shrimps, Stoat & Silver Stoat variants.


Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Peter McCallum on 05/11/2009 at 13:39
Any more nights like last year Ben? they were very useful.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Irvine Ross on 05/11/2009 at 20:25
Currently restocking on elk hair caddis and DHEs then on to half hogs, buzzers, damsels and anything else needed to fill the holes in my boxes.

Ben

Madonnas, Butt Monkeys  ?????? :z8

I'm falling behind the times. Any pictures to give us a clue?

Irvine
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 05/11/2009 at 21:47
still salmon flies at the moment.  I'm currently tieing a selection of Kylie patterns for a friend, medium doubles, small doubles, plastic tubes in a templedog style and conehead varients.  Then I'm going to start on some dry flies.  My plan is to try and avoid buying any flies every because once I buy flies I favour the bought flies over my own ones. 

I'll post some photos once I get going. 
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 05/11/2009 at 21:58
Currently restocking on elk hair caddis and DHEs then on to half hogs, buzzers, damsels and anything else needed to fill the holes in my boxes.

Ben

Madonnas, Butt Monkeys  ?????? :z8

I'm falling behind the times. Any pictures to give us a clue?

Irvine

Think big, hairy and dead rabbit Irvine  :z4

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 05/11/2009 at 22:00
Any more nights like last year Ben? they were very useful.

Hi Peter, Yes there will be, thinking about doing the streamer stuff someyime towards the end of November, when I get a date set I will post something.  Hoping to cover not just the flies but how & where to fish them.


Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Jay Scott on 05/11/2009 at 22:05
Hi Peter, Yes there will be, thinking about doing the streamer stuff someyime towards the end of November, when I get a date set I will post something.  Hoping to cover not just the flies but how & where to fish them.


Cheers

Ben

That sounds superb Ben was thinking about trying streamers on the river  :z16

Jay
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Peter McCallum on 06/11/2009 at 01:22
Book me a place
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 06/11/2009 at 21:50
me....

Slight incident this evening, I must remember to put the spare hook on the double at the back rather than at the front.  A few minutes with some pliers and gritting my teeth sorted it out. 

Still managed to get two kylies done on low water doubles and one larger kylie shrimp....

(http://i34.tinypic.com/vhf2hg.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 06/11/2009 at 21:51
Ouch  :shock
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 06/11/2009 at 22:55

Hey Matt

AH! I see, the hook was in the vise when it happened.

Silly Billy!

A few Lambruscos' should ease the pain  :z4

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 06/11/2009 at 23:15
A little bit of this and that

(http://i35.tinypic.com/29qi0j9.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 07/11/2009 at 21:57
another few knocked out. 

First is a pot belly pig tied on a 17mm eumer crayfish tube with a silver medium cone.  I also used a mini marabou hackle at the tail which looks like it will swim very nicely. 

(http://i33.tinypic.com/szbkuc.jpg)

Second a Kylie shrimp - tieing these for a friend. 

(http://i37.tinypic.com/4dl3c.jpg)

An emerald stoat conehead varient, in green and black especially for Goolager this one...

(http://i37.tinypic.com/rmu1i9.jpg)

I've also tied a few shuttlecocks but haven't got photos of them. 

Right time for a beer I think..
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Jay Scott on 07/11/2009 at 22:10

They look good mdh!  :z16

Notice you used marabou on the first fly... haven't seen a lot of salmon flies tied with that.. does it work well?

Jay
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 07/11/2009 at 22:10
Nice ones Matt :z16

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 07/11/2009 at 22:46
Very nice Matt, I'd fish with them  :grin

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 07/11/2009 at 23:08
They look good mdh!  :z16

Notice you used marabou on the first fly... haven't seen a lot of salmon flies tied with that.. does it work well?

Jay

Jay,

I watched the Frodin "make em swim" dvd last night, and he uses lots of marabou and ostrich herl behind the turbocones.  It's very easy to tie in just like a normal hackle and even easier to double. 

To the critics is the pot bellied pig long enough or would you have tied the tail longer to put it further past the hook?

cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 08/11/2009 at 06:54
I've been tying up a few fish and shrimp patterns too :grin

Still trying to master the epoxy :z6 have some ideas for some squid up my sleeve, will be tying them on these cold
winter days :z10

Not quite spiders, but i'm sure i can come up with some of them too :wink

(http://i38.tinypic.com/iwut5k.jpg)

This is EP fibres/Dna

(http://i37.tinypic.com/iogf86.jpg)

Same again but slightly smaller.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/ws019k.jpg)

A glass shrimp, still needs some work , maybe some more legs, but i think minimalist is good.

(http://i36.tinypic.com/1416ow6.jpg)

This is made of DnA and angel hair, despite its size it casts really well on my light weight rig (7wt :shock)

Still trying to simplify but they do catch fish, thinking of which i still have to get a waterproof camera and get some fishy shots.
So far i have yet to catch anything worth photographing, but i'm on the hunt for some barramundi :z12

Sandy







Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 08/11/2009 at 10:07
Like the Glass Shrimp Sandy :z16

Looking forward to those photo's

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 08/11/2009 at 12:49
Sandy,

Those are amazing.  Any chance of a wee step by step on how to tie flies like that?

cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: stickleback on 08/11/2009 at 20:49
Nice - I like that glass shimp too - how do you make the body ?  Also, is that a weed guard you've tied in made from mono ?  It must have been hard going getting it to sit completely in line with the barb.   
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 09/11/2009 at 01:51
Hmmmm.

Step by steps, i'll see what i can do. The glass shrimp is copied from a pattern i picked up in the US.
The weed guard is Mono and it takes a bit of practice to get it to sit in the right place, will try to work out how to describe it.
The body is Pearl mylar tied tight to the hook with a built body of Z-poxy. It looks pretty cool but is tricky to keep the right shape.

Will have a go at trying a SBS for it

Must confess to enjoying learning how to make these kinds of flies, just wish the water here was a bit clearer, it would make flyfishing far better.
In the meantime im planning for OZ. there are some nice flats out there.

Playing with poppers too :shock will post one or two when im happy with them. (they are for the big gun :z6)

 :z18

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 12/11/2009 at 21:57
A little bit of Orange & Black today

(http://i34.tinypic.com/2u799tv.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 27/11/2009 at 15:26
a selection of kylies.  Kylies in a turbo conhead templedog style, kylies on a 1" brass tube, kylie shrimps on a size 12 double and klies on size 16 doubles.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/zn1s74.jpg)

thats my first commision out the door, got another lot to work on and still haven't made a start on filling my own fly box for next year...

cheers

matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: David on 27/11/2009 at 19:16
Just trying out how to post a picture Mike.... :z18

(http://i50.tinypic.com/34j4njk.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 27/11/2009 at 19:37
Nice fly to try it out with David :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 27/11/2009 at 20:50
Mike,

SBS of Nymph coming soon

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Jim Eddie on 27/11/2009 at 20:53
Just trying out how to post a picture Mike.... :z18

(http://i50.tinypic.com/34j4njk.jpg)

Nice fly David , youve cracked it how to post them now  :z16 Mind and get one of those waterproof pouches for the camera this time  :z4

 :z18

Jim
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 01/12/2009 at 22:22
Laugh away  :z4

I give you the flexi cat, lots of movement and a good flee in the winter  :wink

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2cxxqur.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2lx6o34.jpg)
Tighlines
Baz.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: clark on 03/12/2009 at 16:29
Do these actually catch fish BT ? I've seen them before but thought it was a case of the fly catching the angler  :z4 how would you go about fishing it ???

clark
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 03/12/2009 at 18:32
I wouldnt be tying them if they did not catch, best cats whisker i have in my box  :wink
Intermediate point fly and a blob on the top dropper and pull :wink
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 03/12/2009 at 20:02
A czech nymph that I took a step by step of for the competition will work that out later on

(http://i48.tinypic.com/30m1hk7.jpg)

And then a few comets which are tied on a plastic eumer tubing, I might tie some on a metal tube for the spring.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/zl83yh.jpg)

cheers

matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 24/12/2009 at 09:37
I've been tying flies for a Flyswap with some of the Ozzies on a Satwater fly forum out here :z16
The first attempts were a bit questionable, but with the aid of photos and the internet, i was able to get a great flytying lesson online
and have managed to crack the style.

The fly is called openshaws ghost and the idea is it has no sparkle to it except for the red throat (hotspot :wink) and in the water it looks almost transparent much like the bait fish it is meant to be.
Tying transparent actually takes a lot of practice, the idea is to tie very sparse but still retain some shape.
The body is tied Hi-Style like a polar minnow, but using Slinky fiber. This version is tan over white, the original is grey over white , but i dont have grey :roll.

The other trick is the eyes and epoxy :z6 took some practice too, they kept coming out with big fat heads :roll however i found that if you put the epoxy on the back of the eyes and some on the wraps and then mount the eyes and push them together so a tiny amount of epoxy comes out around the eye then it looks very neat and is light and nicely proportioned :z18

Not sure if the fly would be any use anywhere but in clear saltwater, but if you go on holiday then it is apparently a very effective pattern on the flats :z16

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/IMG_0535.jpg)

Sandy

Its a 3/0 hook by the way :z6

Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 24/12/2009 at 19:49
Nice fly Sandy,

I can just imagine how good it looks good being pulled through crystal clear shallow water  :z16

Have a good one.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 07/01/2010 at 00:00
Thoughts of Hatches in April.....................

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2eycpzb.jpg)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/xe0k13.jpg)

These were for my January SBS but my camera has just been float tested in the lavatory!

Panasonic here we come.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 07/01/2010 at 00:18

These were for my January SBS but my camera has just been float tested in the lavatory!


Hi Iain ........ did it pass the test? What were you doing with it there anyway? :z4

Nice flies :z15 and it feels good to be thinking of April :cool:

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 07/01/2010 at 10:21
Quote
Hi Iain ........ did it pass the test?


No Mike,
no toilet was frozen  :z4

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 08/01/2010 at 21:27
Some MB dries

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2v1tfkz.jpg)

now for some Waterhen Bloa & MB spiders

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 08/01/2010 at 21:41
Hi Iain,
                       What are the wings in the MB,s ? CDC ?

 In the Olives I like to splay the wing down with my finger nail to spread them  before finally tying off and super gelling . Hey, that's just me though.

Nice quill bodies.

Paul.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 08/01/2010 at 22:25
Paul I can't remember the name of the stuff but it's synthetic not CDC, Davy Wotton something or other, perhaps Kev Muir would like to comment (indestructable & high floating).


(http://i45.tinypic.com/2iw6gp3.jpg)
Maybe not the best angle to see how the wing looks in a real situation but it's a fair trout pleaser

The wing shape can indeed be altered at the tying in stage & a forward facing wing can also look nice (and be effective).

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 09/01/2010 at 19:36
Hi Iain,
             Is it Niche polypropylene yarn or maybe Tiemco Aero Drywing ? The latter stuff is the berries for floatibility if a mite expensive. http://www.flytyingboutique.com/store/Details.asp?ProdID=71&category=5

Or this stuff  from the same website . Looks good stuff
Trigger Point International Fibres

This from their ad .

The Trigger Point International range of winging products has been specifically designed by Enrico Puglisi of the USA and renowned Australian fly tier Mick Hall to compliment the natural wing colours found in the insect world.

Their objective was to be able to get as close to nature as possible, and they believe that they have achieved that goal.

- There are 16 specifically selected TPI colours, some are unique blends and others are solid colours.

- With the TPI range you can select or create your own blends. In fact you can match just about any wing colouration found in the insect world, Mayflies, Stoneflies, Caddis, it is endless.

- A key feature of most of the TPI colours and another first is that they have a subtle amount of black fibres threaded throughout the blend to specifically represent the wing venation.

- The TPI fibres are unique in that they are non-matting and so fine and delicate that they allow you to use them on just about any size hook.

- The total TPI range is marking pen friendly; you can simply add a fore-edge to your wings or create your own wing pattern.

- Another unique feature of the TPI range is that it has been pre-treated with “Water Shed” floatant. There is now no need to fish with wings all messed up with floatant.

For the full "Trigger Point International" story and more information, take a look at Mick Hall's web site:

www.kossiedun.com.au


I notice (now) also that you don't bother with a parachute hackle .
Is that to get the fly sitting right in the surface film as in the photo ?

Paul.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 09/01/2010 at 19:43
Busy stocking up on the 3 tone Montrose Dry flees  :wink
Messy work, my carpets covered in deer hair  :shock

(http://i50.tinypic.com/65z7y9.jpg)

Tightlines,
Baz :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 09/01/2010 at 20:42
Hey Bazmeister,

I appreciate the tying involved and that they do catch fish but I'd need a glass or two of Port before I plucked up the courage to throw one of them.................having said that I'm keen to try a few new concepts this season (like barbless Salmon flies) so perhaps you can take me to one of your reservoirs this year and we'll fish flies of that type.  :z6 :roll

Iain

p.s. get the hoovering done - or you'll be dyson with death  :z4
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 09/01/2010 at 20:51
Seriously speaking Iain, i would of been lost without that flee last season!
Fished on a midge tip it held my nymphs/cormorants up perfectly and pulled past rising stockies at speed proved a real winner!
Also fished well on an intermediate as a top dropper with 2 cormorants chasing behind it!
Everyone to there own but most waters are filled with stocked rainbows true, stocked rainbows like blobs! :z13
Deer hair blobs just fish that bit differant but in a good way, i see lots of companys like fulling mill and caledonian flies are already starting to sell them in shops  :wink
We will get a good day out this year as both times we went out the conditions were against us  :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 09/01/2010 at 20:55
Hi Paul,
No it's not Aero Wing or Niche polyprop yarn (both excellent materials & I use them both a lot). As for the TPI, don't think so but I'll find out.

As for the lack of hackle, it's purely a simplicity decision plus the fact that they don't need it for floatability or stability and the fish don't seem to mind it being legless.

I was toying with adding a turn or two of hackle and snipping flush undeneath but maybe I'm just tinkering to beat the ice blues.

 :z16 Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 09/01/2010 at 20:58
Do any of you lads use FABSIL on any of your dries or flies you wish to float??
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 09/01/2010 at 21:01
Baz,

There is no desputing their effectiveness and popularity It makes obvious sense for companies to stock them and all their variants  'cos it's money in the till.

Guess I'll have to buy some Airflo DI lines  :z6

  :z16  Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Kevin Muir on 09/01/2010 at 22:51
Hi Iain / Paul,

The material Iain used for the wing of his flies is very similar to a product that Davy Wotton introduced at one of the "Partridge Tying Days" many years ago.  He had a ball of synthetic yarn and cut a small section off and tied a fly he called a "Dun Wing Dun".  The fly did not have a hackle and he said the fly fished much better by not having a hackle.  Several of us who attended the demo day got a sample of this yarn from Davy to take home and tie a few flies with.  I liked the flies and I bought more yarn from him when he started to sell it in his shop.  I will dig out a packed and post a photo of it.

The big thing that Davy was stressing with this fly was the fact that the fly floated in the film rather than on it, the fly is only suitable for the smoother glides and calmer streams, it will get swamped in the very rough water.  The thing that impressed me about this fly was how easy it was to loose your fly in a hatch, (therefore very similar to the natural), providing you don't take your eye off the fly when you cast above a fish it is ok.

The fly is a very quick tie and if you loose a dozen when fishing on branches etc, it is no big deal to fill the spaces in your box, all in all a great no nonsense fly.

Since Davy sold up and moved to the USA, I have not seen Dun Wing Yarn for sale in the UK, you can use Poly Yarn, the TMC Aero Yarn would be great and the new Trigger Point fibres also work well.  I hate the hanks Trigger Point fibres come in but that is just me. Not user friendly in my opinion.

If Iain can't get his camera sorted, I could post a rough step by step, though I would rather defer to Iain if he can get his camera sorted.

I tend to use grey squirrel body fur dubbing for the thorax and pick it out well, it is a 3 or 4 minute fly at most and can be tied in the smallest sizes very easily.

Just a great pattern.

I will find out if it is possible to post the original article that Davy had published in Fly Fishing and Fly Tying here as it gives a good background to the fly.

Kev.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 10/01/2010 at 15:21
Good photo baz :z16

I've just sent off another wee shoal of fish to the Czech republic for another Flyswap :shock.
The vice is good tonic in the jungle

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/IMG_0667.jpg)

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 10/01/2010 at 16:42
Good photo baz :z16

I've just sent off another wee shoal of fish to the Czech republic for another Flyswap :shock.
The vice is good tonic in the jungle

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/IMG_0667.jpg)

Sandy

How long did they take to tie  :shock
Nice looking flies anyway  :z18
 :z16
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 10/01/2010 at 17:13
Hi Kevin,
              Thanks for that .

I tend to use the Aero Wing but is it a bit dear . How do you find the TPI for floatability ? I have,nt tried that yet.
Also, since your'e on (!) have you discovered a cheaper (been in Aberdeen too long) sub for Watershed ?

Cheers,

Paul.

PS: Bit of a wee thaw in Ellon today . Roll on the Spring !!
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 10/01/2010 at 17:18
Skip water shed Paul, FABSIL is awesome!
Spray your material with fabsil and it will float forever  :wink
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 10/01/2010 at 17:19
Hi Kevin,
              Thanks for that .

I tend to use the Aero Wing but is it a bit dear . How do you find the TPI for floatability ? I have,nt tried that yet.
Also, since your'e on (!) have you discovered a cheaper (been in Aberdeen too long) sub for Watershed ?

Cheers,

Paul.

PS: Bit of a wee thaw in Ellon today . Roll on the Spring !!
Still not found anything better than Aero dry wing.  Floats so well that with small patterns it is enough to float a fly on it's own and I like the range of colours but is is rather dear.

Not thawing here Paul, not got above -3 all day, -9 at 09:30.

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 10/01/2010 at 18:39
HI Baz,
             Fabsil , where do you get it ?
HI Ben,
             Agree re Aero Wing , it's amazing . Temp. here been plummeting since last observation . I now have very large ice formations on my guttering and it's bl---y  Baltic outside. It's a bit of a baptism for your first winter here  eh ? Are you going down to the Tweed bash in March ?

Paul.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 10/01/2010 at 18:47
 A company called grangers Make it and i got it in a huge spray tin from an outdoor shop in forfar

Here are a couple of links
Not tried this one but looks the bizz  :wink
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Granger's-Fabsil-Universal-Silicone-Waterproofer-125ml_W0QQitemZ130325210165QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=1b3d91af11d0a0aad321bb41ffa32dd6

This is the tin i use and i spray it on completed flies or tying materials prior to tying!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Granger's-Fabsil-Universal-Silicone-Waterproofer-400ml_W0QQitemZ200413636356QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=1b3d91af11d0a0aad321bb41ffa32dd6

Best stuff i have ever used, i use this on my klinks alot.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Peter McCallum on 10/01/2010 at 19:23
Hey it was +6 in montrose today....... where's my sunscreen?? :z13
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 10/01/2010 at 19:50
HI Baz,
             Fabsil , where do you get it ?
HI Ben,
             Agree re Aero Wing , it's amazing . Temp. here been plummeting since last observation . I now have very large ice formations on my guttering and it's bl---y  Baltic outside. It's a bit of a baptism for your first winter here  eh ? Are you going down to the Tweed bash in March ?

Paul.
Was here last winter too Paul, everyone said that it was unusually harsh last year!!  What Tweed bash is the in march?

Will get the tying gear out tonight I think and get cracking on some tubes for the 11th  :grin

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 10/01/2010 at 20:02

Latest stuff
(http://i47.tinypic.com/taikd2.jpg)

Hi peter,
I'm going to tie some of your March Browns this season.

Baz,
What's the story with Fabsil? Does it matt the fibres together? Any down sides? slicks, etc?

Yes Aero is expensive (cheekily so) but arguably the best material on the market and you can make one hell of a lot of flies from one card - more annoying if you like to have an assortment of colours when it's easy to ring up a shilling or two.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 10/01/2010 at 20:24
No downsides Iain, no slicks and no matting of fibres  :wink
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 11/01/2010 at 07:51
How long did they take to tie  :shock


Now for the geeky part :z6
I discovered that one length of holofusion ties 5 flies, and that i can comfortably apply 2 sets of eyes for each mix up of 5min devcon. So the flies were tied in batches of 10 (4 of) and epoxied in pairs
I entered the swap to keep me occupied for a couple of weeks and kinda finished the flies in 3 days :roll

I reckon it takes about 45 mins to tie up the 10 flies and then another 45 mins to apply 10 sets of eyes. (that includes coffee or wine, depending on daytime or evening :z7)

So i suppose they took 6 hours to tie, didn't seem that long :shock

Interesting topic on Aero wing, never used fabsil either.
Can't think of anything useful to add :z6 Never use either, or watershed for that matter, i like my dryflies to get damp :z4
I like to add Aquel to the parts i want to float, if i want it too.

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 11/01/2010 at 13:47
Hi Ben,
            Sorry , senior moment , I guess I was thinking about REAL winiters ! :wink

The Tweed thing in March is the GAIA Salmon casting CPD at Tweedswood being organised by Alberto.

Paul.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 15/01/2010 at 10:25
On Day 3 of torrential rain  :shock
So more flooding here than at home at the moment.

Been back at the vice this afternoon, winding down after work.
Tying up a large scale EP fibre Minnow, well its a bit big to be a minnow :z6 But the technique is the same, i think :z6

I had a lot of fun tying it though.

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/IMG_0671.jpg)

Its on a Size 9/0 longshank hook :shock For scale this picture also has a a size 12 damsel :z18

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/IMG_0674.jpg)

My flies are getting more like Rob's all the time :shock :z4 :z4

Good fun though, i understand fully why Magnus calls this fly building, not fly tying :z4

Sandy

Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 15/01/2010 at 13:27
This ones slightly smaller at 7/0 :shock

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/IMG_0678.jpg)

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 15/01/2010 at 15:49
Nice flies Sandy.

These EP baitfish flies are impressive  :z16

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Michael Buchan on 20/01/2010 at 22:15
Hi guys

Heres tonights efforts started off tying some streamers for the Don then got a bit more adventurous and tried my hand at a mini tarpon toad.  Trying to convince the wife she wants a trip to cuba.  Not the best tyings youll see but a good nite was had and hopefully the fish will approve.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/vdu9z.jpg)

The Mini Tarpon toad might try one on a small hook for the rainbows.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/a5jalg.jpg)

Will have to attempt a step by step sometime soon

Cheers

Michael


Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 20/01/2010 at 22:30
Nice flies Michael.  They'll catch fish!!

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 24/01/2010 at 11:51
Something different for me

(http://i49.tinypic.com/m97dpz.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 24/01/2010 at 12:10
They look nice for a wave Iain ..... Cool :cool:

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 27/01/2010 at 23:34

Sea-Trout anyone?

(http://i50.tinypic.com/3088aqt.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 03/02/2010 at 15:04
Some of this mornings efforts  :z18

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030068.jpg)


(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030064.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 03/02/2010 at 17:02
Hi Baz,
           Were you looking in my window last night ?  :shock
I was tying up some black WB's with pink tungsten heads , aye great minds seldom differ .... :grin

Is that UV micro straggle on the 2nd fly ?

Nice.

Paul.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 03/02/2010 at 21:25
I wouldnt dare look through yer window paul, god knows what i might see  :z4
The bottom flee is Mini Uv straggle with a badger hackle!
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 03/02/2010 at 22:20
Knocking out some spring flies so that I've got a few to give away to friends...

A nice wee monkey decided it looked really good with a red head on it tied on a 1" alumnium slipstream tube

(http://i49.tinypic.com/29uocw0.jpg)

A Snaelda, i got the tail proportions a wee bit wrong on this one, its a half inch tungsten tube with a bit of medium eumer tubing to extend it

(http://i48.tinypic.com/14l3fp0.jpg)

An ice maiden tied on a 1" copper tube

(http://i47.tinypic.com/35d68ly.jpg)

An a posh tosh tied on a 1" aluminium tube with a large eumer tungsten cone on it

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2q81v9t.jpg)

Time to tie some trout flies soon, honest...

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 03/02/2010 at 23:00
Mucking about with 19mm Eumer Gold teardrops and a (very loose) Cascade theme

(http://i45.tinypic.com/292sbpi.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2rnhu1w.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 03/02/2010 at 23:17
Hi Matt,

Nice flies as always, the Snaelda interests me.....   Tie one on a 1.75" tube in baby pink, has accounted for two springers (including a 15lb fish) and a rake of kelts over the last two days, total fly length of about 3.5"

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 04/02/2010 at 08:15
Hi Matt,

Nice flies as always, the Snaelda interests me.....   Tie one on a 1.75" tube in baby pink, has accounted for two springers (including a 15lb fish) and a rake of kelts over the last two days, total fly length of about 3.5"

Cheers

Ben

very interesting news there Ben.  Have you got any of those ready tied in the shop? I don't have any pink bucktail and I'll have to raid my granny's sewing box to find some pink wool!

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Hamish Young on 04/02/2010 at 09:46
I saw the pink 'thing' in action on opening day on the Dee, very interesting indeed and when I'm next in front of the vice I'll be tying a couple up.
As I commented at the time, white and pink Kynoch Killers were once very popular on the Tay in early season in clear and slightly coloured water conditions. I used them a lot when trolling for salmon (and big troots)on Lochs Tay and Shiel so there's no reason that I can see that those combinations wouldn't work very well on a tube fly - clearly, in pink alone, it works well so I have to tie a few in fluro pink and white to see what happens...... chuck a turbo disc on the front and you've got pretty much a spinning lure anyway  :z7
Might also be worth re-visiting the contents of my trolling/spinning lure box to see othe colour combinations that have worked well and incorporate them into a fly or two. Just for the hell of it, you understand.

I'll get my coat  :wink

Hamish  :z3
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 04/02/2010 at 10:57
the Snaelda is very similar to a red francis in style.  Just with the hackle moved up to the head of the tube.  Stands to reason given that shrimpy things in the sea are pink or orange that this attracts them.  Much the same way as a sunray shadow imitates a sand eel. 
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 04/02/2010 at 21:32
Chartreuse j/c buzzer

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2uduzb8.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 05/02/2010 at 00:01
(http://i49.tinypic.com/14btamb.jpg)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/14awjzl.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 05/02/2010 at 07:31
nice flies lads but they appear to be going in the wrong direction?
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 05/02/2010 at 14:46
Hi All,
          Nice flies All.

Iain that's a good wee variation , dressing a wee tail on the double. Also means you can mix and match colour combos too.

Baz,
         "I wouldnt dare look through yer window paul, god knows what i might see " . True ,  true ..........

Paul.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 05/02/2010 at 15:05
Hi Matt,

Nice flies as always, the Snaelda interests me.....   Tie one on a 1.75" tube in baby pink, has accounted for two springers (including a 15lb fish) and a rake of kelts over the last two days, total fly length of about 3.5"

Cheers

Ben

a bit like one of these perhaps?

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2lxfpdt.jpg)

I couldn't find any pink bucktail despite visiting Orvis and Somers.  The best I could get was some very nice pink crystal flash at orvis and flouresecent pink bucktail in somers.  Just need to use a slightly smaller tube and a neaten up the head.  Oh and steal some of the OH's pink nail polish! One aside is that the krystal flash in orvis is really nice compared to the veniards stuff. 

cheers 

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Irvine Ross on 05/02/2010 at 17:41
I don't have any pink except some Ice Dub shrimp pink dubbing so I used that over floss to make the body. I used white over red  arctic fox for the tail and white over red for the hackle.

Will it work?

(http://i45.tinypic.com/xcp2co.jpg)

I'll have to ask a passing fish.

Irvine
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 05/02/2010 at 17:46
I don't have any pink except some Ice Dub shrimp pink dubbing so I used that over floss to make the body. I used white over red  arctic fox for the tail and white over red for the hackle.

Nice work Hare's lug.

The original dressing of a Snealda is bucktail rather than artic fox but I can't see it making that much difference.  Also the example that I saw in the orvis shop today was pink over red so I'm sure that the white over red will be similar.  They had done the same with the body it looked like pink dubbing over red floss. 

I bought some pink chenille rather than pink dubbing.  I should have got pink dubbing really.  Oh well next time.

cheers

matt

Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 05/02/2010 at 18:31
Where all the troot flies  :z8  :wink
Nice flies chaps Iam sure the tourists will love em  :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 05/02/2010 at 19:51
I was at a tying demo the other night and just cant get over how sweet Jungle cock cheeked buzzers are  :shock


(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030111.jpg)

Is it just me or are they just hot  :z16
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 05/02/2010 at 19:59
Baz, what's the scoop with the 'Screamin' Pheonix' thorax?!

Very very neat................ if I may be so bold I'd have liked to have seen 2 more turns on the body.  :z10

Like it though.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 05/02/2010 at 20:17
Ok i will do a couple more turns just for you  :wink
The thorax is just black thread with orkney peach jungle cock cheeks  :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 10/02/2010 at 17:43


(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hs812a.jpg)

1st stop Epoxius Additionalus
2nd stop Esox Lucius

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 10/02/2010 at 17:55
A couple nice looking flies there Iain, When and where you planning on using them?

Tightlines,
Baz
 :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 10/02/2010 at 20:38
Not sure where and when they'll get used but if I don't catch at least a few Pike this year then I'm gonna be peeved!

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 10/02/2010 at 21:58
Nice flies Iain

What size are they? Have you tried casting them? I'm Interested to know how they cast.

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 10/02/2010 at 22:32
Hi Sandy

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2079n5g.jpg)

Haven't cast an EP Baitfish pattern yet but as I'm sure you know the material is hydrophobic and I'm informed by Rob and others that regularly use them they are very easy to cast.
I've larger ones tied on 3/0 Varivas 2600 ST-V hooks! I guess there will be a few 'dog nobbler duck' casts when I first try them.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 13/02/2010 at 09:05
Some small, size 2, :shock Hi style clousers
Ready for Golden Trevally in OZ next month :z3

Subtle colours like Grey and pale pink are the best colours , so i'm told, so here's hoping

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/pinkandgrey.jpg)

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 13/02/2010 at 09:08
These are bigger ones, size 1 and tied brighter for Tuna, hopefully for the same trip

Natural bucktail this time :z16

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/clousers.jpg)

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 14/02/2010 at 13:38
A wee emerger  :wink

(http://i47.tinypic.com/5anbc6.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030230.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030238.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030241.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 17/02/2010 at 23:21

All this talk of spiders is ace but we've got a whole lot of Salmon love to negotiate first.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/f38cnk.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 18/02/2010 at 00:30
They look posh Iain  :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 18/02/2010 at 01:15
Nice spiders, Iain :z16

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 18/02/2010 at 23:56

Mucking about with Rhyac's,

(http://i49.tinypic.com/1z64213.jpg)

Iain

Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 19/02/2010 at 09:38
silver stoat variants.  I prefer gold ribbing with a silver body i'm not really sure why but I like the colour contrast.  And a wee bit of blue schlappen for the throat oh and artic fox rather than stoats tail for the wing. 

(http://i49.tinypic.com/1z3c8pl.jpg)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2m2e6mx.jpg)

off to start my step by step shortly..

cheers

matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 19/02/2010 at 22:27
Nice Matheus :z16
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 19/02/2010 at 22:31
I like them Matt :z16

have you ever tried putting one full turn of the schlappen feather on the collar before the wing.
It gives you a full hackle which looks a bit like a spey style fly and then with the wing over the top, the hackle kicks the wing up in the hair so the fly moves more in the water (great for faster water). Give it a try if you haven't, but dont use any more than one full turn of the hackle. See if you like it :z18

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Irvine Ross on 20/02/2010 at 16:02
Sandy

Is this the kind of thing you mean? This one is not schlappen just the big end of a Chinese cock cape. I used a turn of grizzle over two turns of black, I think.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/se63b4.jpg)

Irvine
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 20/02/2010 at 16:14
Now that's my kind of salmon fly :z16

love it

sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Irvine Ross on 20/02/2010 at 16:38
Sandy

I've been tempted to tie a few without the wing, just a big spider, but I haven't had the courage to part with convention yet. Anybody out there tried it?

Irvine

Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 20/02/2010 at 17:04
Cracking fleee Irvine  :z16
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 20/02/2010 at 18:06
I like them Matt :z16

have you ever tried putting one full turn of the schlappen feather on the collar before the wing.
It gives you a full hackle which looks a bit like a spey style fly and then with the wing over the top, the hackle kicks the wing up in the hair so the fly moves more in the water (great for faster water). Give it a try if you haven't, but dont use any more than one full turn of the hackle. See if you like it :z18

Sandy

Sandy,

I did some earlier on and the schlappen is too soft and doesn't stand up enough.  I reckon a normal hen or cock hackle would do the job nicely.  I'll post a few pictures later on.

Irvine I've sent you a PM.

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 20/02/2010 at 21:49
Okay so its not the same fly but very similar its an emerald stoat this time

With a turn of schlappen

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2s6wqjs.jpg)

With a turn of cock hackle

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2wpm714.jpg)

And a few other flies chosen at random from my big book of Salmon flies

A leslie Peters

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsuu88.jpg)

A Goldie/Gold Kenny's Killer

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ihwh2q.jpg)

and a Red Pearl Ally's Shrimp

(http://i50.tinypic.com/i41lro.jpg)

cheers

Matt  :z16 :z15

Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 21/02/2010 at 00:20
Nice flees Matt, photos are great also  :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 21/02/2010 at 01:35
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2nu4w7k.jpg)

Please don't tell me the hackle is too long, it's 01:34
 :z10

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 21/02/2010 at 02:04
Really love the flies Matt

Especially the Kennys killer one, it looks awesome.
I like way the schlappen sits nice and soft, if you tie a couple of turns of thread behind the hackle when you tie it down, like i do with spiders, it will kick up and then do the same with the fox hair and it kicks up too, and you get an effect similar to Kenny's you have there, but with the longer hackle.


Please don't tell me the hackle is too long, it's 01:34
 :z10

Iain

Iain - your hook is too small :wink
You have the right idea though, the hackle is sitting beautifully :z16 This fly will catch fish, especially when there are B.W.O's on the go.
Might even be a bit to sparse with the mole, if that is possible :shock Far better than being to heavy though :z18

Love it :z3

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 25/02/2010 at 10:18
Lots of Spiders.

Scared to post photo's as they just seem to be a source of ridicule (you know who you are Superman) and my Mum says to steer clear bullys.

Nah, the battery on my camera has now departed - see what I can do with the other really crud camera.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 25/02/2010 at 10:33
Wuss!
 :z4 :z4 :z4

Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 25/02/2010 at 11:41
Sandy

I've been tempted to tie a few without the wing, just a big spider, but I haven't had the courage to part with convention yet. Anybody out there tried it?

Irvine

I haven't Irvine but I know a man who has.  Will who sometimes posts here fishes an endrick spider as a searching pattern for trout and hooks a lot of salmon on that.  Really irritating, he ties them with lots of Cu wire under the body for weight so they look like a nice spider that has eaten one to many McDonalds, ugly chunky fly but they work!!

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 25/02/2010 at 13:05
I sent Irvine a link to the Salmon Fishing Forum where one of the members has tied some nice spiders for sea-trout.  I had a go at copying them the other night I'll hopefully get some photos tonight.  I over did the hackles though really.

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Irvine Ross on 25/02/2010 at 17:50
I haven't Irvine but I know a man who has.  Will who sometimes posts here fishes an endrick spider as a searching pattern for trout and hooks a lot of salmon on that.  Really irritating, he ties them with lots of Cu wire under the body for weight so they look like a nice spider that has eaten one to many McDonalds, ugly chunky fly but they work!!

Ben

Ben

I use the Endrick spider too and it has been successful for me on trout. Never taken a salmon though. Maybe that is because I tend to use it in the spring and the salmon have not got that far upstream at that time of the year.

There was a fishing programme on telly two or three years ago when Fiona Armstrong came to fish on Glen Tanar. She spent the afternoon on the stocked trout pond and I had to lend her my rod, line and flies. She did quite well and all the rainbows she got were on the Endrick spider.

Irvine
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 25/02/2010 at 19:55
The only pictures that came out decent before the battery went belly up........

(http://i47.tinypic.com/jgntb4.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/106bwp4.jpg)

The 7 shots taken of the March Browns & the Greenwells were a waste of time  :z6

NEED to get a decent camera soon.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 25/02/2010 at 21:52
spiders here too!

A march brown spider

(http://i45.tinypic.com/op4mmu.jpg)

and a Hares ear spider

(http://i49.tinypic.com/wiqcgo.jpg)

Dressed them a bit heavy I think....

Tonights random Salmon fly from my big book of Salmon flies the Analyst Hairwing.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/160abuq.jpg)

cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 25/02/2010 at 22:42
No doubts they'll catch Matt.  :z16

My MB Spider
(http://i50.tinypic.com/m3sds.jpg)

Greenwells variant (muchos variant)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2yxkxmd.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 25/02/2010 at 22:45
Nice flies guys! .......... I do like that "MB Spider" :wink

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 25/02/2010 at 22:47
No doubts they'll catch Matt.  :z16

My MB Spider
(http://i50.tinypic.com/m3sds.jpg)


should the hackle be doubled/folded on spiders or not?

cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 26/02/2010 at 00:01
Matt,
not being an authority on spiders I'm not going to tell you how they should be tied but, to me, doubling a hackle lends itself more to a swept back type finish rather than the true -soft, perpendicular, dare I say scraggy result - which would be more desirable for a free drifting river pattern.
The typical, commercial, shop bought 'spiders' have a swept back style - like a traditional wet without a wing (and possibly tail). Dare I say that more river anglers fish spiders down and across (tight line) than upstream dead drift and they are typically pulled on still waters by the majority therefore people are happy to use the mass produced swept back style.

I don't know if this was what you were infact asking but It's my take on things.

I always use scraggy perpendicular hackles for upstream spider fishing.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 26/02/2010 at 00:03
Nice flies guys! .......... I do like that "MB Spider" :wink

Cheers
Mike

me too  :z16

cracking spids Iain, love them.

Matt , I would say no, check out the SBS's
the flies should look like the ones iain has put up
with the hackle perpendicular to the hook
sometimes even pointing slightly forward  :wink

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 26/02/2010 at 00:13
to me, doubling a hackle lends itself more to a swept back type finish rather than the true -soft, perpendicular, dare I say scraggy result - which would be more desirable for a free drifting river pattern.


I always use scraggy perpendicular hackles for upstream spider fishing.


Spot on . Almost a simultaneous answer :z7
the flies gotta dance
 :z18

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 26/02/2010 at 09:55
thanks Iain and Sandy. 

I'll go back through the SBS for spiders and make a few changes me thinks...
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 26/02/2010 at 13:51
Just a post to say that I wasn't being at all derogatory to swept back spiders or the people that fish this method - it most definitely does account for fish.


 :z15 :z15 :z15 :z15 :z15
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 05/03/2010 at 17:41
A copper quilled cormorant thats worth a cast or 3  :wink

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030266.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 05/03/2010 at 18:31
this was on my vice last night and ended up here this afternoon

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2rcn8mb.jpg)


Black wooly bugger with an orange tungsten conehead

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 05/03/2010 at 18:47
Welcome back Baz, nice Cormorant.  :z16

Matt,
Twas my intention to swing out bye this afternoon (thought I had your mobile No. on my phone) and see this new build of yours but by the time I got to Kintore I wondered if you'd still be there so left it.
Who's been advocating black WB's with orange tungsten coneheads??  :z8

I take it the 3wt wasn't bent today

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 05/03/2010 at 18:51
Welcome back Baz, nice Cormorant.  :z16

Matt,
Twas my intention to swing out bye this afternoon (thought I had your mobile No. on my phone) and see this new build of yours but by the time I got to Kintore I wondered if you'd still be there so left it.
Who's been advocating black WB's with orange tungsten coneheads??  :z8

I take it the 3wt wasn't bent today

Iain

I left at about half past two so that my mate was home in Aberdeen in time to get his kids from school. 

Nope the 3wt is still in its case waiting for a chance to get to Haddo to A) choose a line and B) catch its first fish. 

Lochter was pretty slow today.  Although I wish i tried the wooly bugger earlier. 
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: MC72 on 07/03/2010 at 13:25
I started fly tying about a year ago and had a bit of success on my own flies in the summer, especially on my "green weed fly" as it was christened by one of my friends. Been tying a few up over the winter and decided to post them as my contribution. Funny how an extreme close up of your creation shows up the imperfections that for some reason my eyes miss whem i'm tying them. Hope you like them.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/b4wxzr.jpg)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/ohols7.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/ev5g00.jpg)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/fvh2et.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2rokzfb.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/v2y9ag.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/8x09de.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2m7smth.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2mecsd3.jpg)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/bfnh8i.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/9k2iky.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/1ens4h.jpg)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/1547vkj.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/sg77du.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/30w8n79.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/b8n5t2.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/21ak16q.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/qoy8sm.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2rg258i.jpg)
This one accounted for 5 at Lochter on saturday morning :grin
 
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 07/03/2010 at 21:53
some recent snatchers ;)
(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030298.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 07/03/2010 at 23:25
Hi MC72,
Welcome to the forum and well done for posting a large selection of your flies. The quality of your photo's is very good and I understand only too well how imperfections which are invisible to the naked eye are magnified by this.

I've no doubt that your flies will catch fish - never seen anything like your 'weed fly' before ??? but if it works for you then all the good.

A year isn't a long time in fly-tying so well done for trying different types of fly and techniques.

Iain

Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 07/03/2010 at 23:30
Yes, great stuff "MC72"

Welcome to the forum :z16

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 07/03/2010 at 23:32
Won't be long now! :z16

(http://i49.tinypic.com/f51v0g.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 07/03/2010 at 23:35
Oooooooo ........ they look nice Iain, very fishy! :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 08/03/2010 at 09:37
Welcome to the site MC72, nice efforts  :wink

Nice flies also Iain, is that the aero wing your using in those flies, if so where did you get it from ??
Cheers
Baz
 :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 08/03/2010 at 12:17
Hi MC72

Today i have been mostly getting crabs :shock.......... :shock...............


To form on the tip of my vice. So far they look like this, but it is far from sorted :z6

(http://i48.tinypic.com/22dc45.jpg)

(http://i49.tinypic.com/vihcfk.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/28lvord.jpg)

This is cool though, it took quite a while to get to this.... and there is a lot more movement to introduce yet :wink

It need to shake its claws at the fish, in a come and eat me if your quick enough kind of way
 :z4 :z4

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 08/03/2010 at 15:53
A couple of lightweights for the buzzer hatchs in the near fututre, i just realised how better photography is when done outdoors, more flies to come soon  :wink

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030322.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030326.jpg)

Tightlines,

Baz

 :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 08/03/2010 at 17:01
Baz,
On the works compyewder so can't see your flies at the mo.

Yes, It's Aero wing - Medium Dun & Cinnamon in the picture. I've this in a few colours - some from the Orvis shoppe & some from Flytying Boutique - Look on his site as he has a picture with all the colours avail, maybe 12 or so which is good for doing sighted posts and mimicking more natural wing colours.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 08/03/2010 at 19:19
Nice flies and al-fresco ambience (pronounced om-bee-yonce) Bart. :cool:

Sandy what are your claws made from? The pattern's going very well so far  :z16

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Irvine Ross on 08/03/2010 at 19:36
Nice tying y'all.

I've been tied up (groan) with other things for the past couple of weeks and havn't got back to the vice yet. I'm jealous.

Irvine
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 08/03/2010 at 21:47
Nice flies boys but I'm still enjoying my big book of salmon flies so I made a family of Ally's Shrimps of various patterns

So from front to back they are a Copper Ally's Shrimp, Yellow Ally's Shrimp, Ally's Shrimp, Tummel Shrimp and a Black Ally's Shrimp.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2d8rvj4.jpg)

Cheers

Matt  :z18 :z15

Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 08/03/2010 at 22:14
Nice as usual Matt,

You need to get out and try them though.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 08/03/2010 at 22:20
Nice as usual Matt,

You need to get out and try them though.

Iain


Depends when I'm next allowed out.  Unfortunately the old calendar is quite busy the noo...
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 09/03/2010 at 19:28
Been tying up Tungsten bead Endrick Spiders for the point.

Tied a few with regular fibre length & 1 1/2 close hackle turns and a few with longer hackles and 3 more open turns - both look ok I think.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/vqtdtv.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/k13y52.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 10/03/2010 at 17:32
Was out trooting again today and the fiery brooon snatcher proved a favourite again, cant wait till the season starts now  :z16

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030329.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030330.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030337.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030339.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Michael Buchan on 16/03/2010 at 21:39
Tied up a few Butt Monkey Variants for the Don tonight.  Roll on 1st of April ordered a Kelly Galloup streamer express line off ebay to fish them hopefully wont get stung by customs.  Never tryed lure fishing on the river before so looking forward to giving them a bash.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/71ptzs.jpg)

Michael
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 16/03/2010 at 21:46
Nice fleeeeeees Michael!
I reckon the big browns will have a field day with them  :wink
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Michael Buchan on 16/03/2010 at 21:50
Cheers Baz, one like yours fae yesterday would do me dandy.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 17/03/2010 at 19:36
Nice flies Michael,

best of luck with them.

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 22/03/2010 at 19:23
A couple of flies from today!

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030494.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030507.jpg)

Tightlines
Baz
 :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 23/03/2010 at 21:01
Anyone been tying up any traditional patterns lately?
Busy trying to jazz up the boring black pennel tonight  :z16
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 23/03/2010 at 21:26
Anyone been tying up any traditional patterns lately?
Busy trying to jazz up the boring black pennel tonight  :z16

Nothing boring about a Black Pennell Baz ..... they catch fish! :z4

If you don't already do them, try a Pearly Pennell, these are very good on stillwaters! :wink

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 23/03/2010 at 21:53
Been doing traffic light pennels , they actually look pretty nifty!
Basically a black pennel with a red holo rib with a mirage rib over the top of the red  :wink
Having a standard pennel on your cast is like driving a reliant robin  :z4
Poor photo but iam sure you get the jist of it!
(http://i41.tinypic.com/rgxhjl.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 23/03/2010 at 22:04
Quote
Having a standard pennel on your cast is like driving a reliant robin

Baz, my 'standard' pennell has a mirage rib and it's better than yours!  You'll be tying traffic light bloodworms next!
 :z7

(http://i42.tinypic.com/mip0n4.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/28tddlx.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 23/03/2010 at 22:31
(http://i40.tinypic.com/106k3zp.jpg)


(http://i39.tinypic.com/207otq0.jpg)


(http://i39.tinypic.com/2my9a9f.jpg)

Prototype smolt pattern!!

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 23/03/2010 at 23:23
Before you ask ...... No, you can't use that at Haddo Ben :z4

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 24/03/2010 at 07:44
(http://i40.tinypic.com/106k3zp.jpg)


(http://i39.tinypic.com/207otq0.jpg)


(http://i39.tinypic.com/2my9a9f.jpg)

Prototype smolt pattern!!

Ben

and this from the man that doesn't enter the SBS because he can't use a camera.....
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 24/03/2010 at 07:55
(http://i42.tinypic.com/mip0n4.jpg)
Iain
whats the dressing for that one iain?

cheers

matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Garrigan on 24/03/2010 at 12:17
Baz, my 'standard' pennell has a mirage rib and it's better than yours!  You'll be tying traffic light bloodworms next!
 :z7

(http://i42.tinypic.com/mip0n4.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/28tddlx.jpg)

Iain

Hi Iain,

What hooks did you use for the Klinks in this picture? I like the angle the body sits at. Klinks are my nemesis!! I think you need three hands to tie em!  :mad
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 24/03/2010 at 13:24
Nice flies Iain and Ben  :z16
Whats yours made from ben? It looks like a hares mask thats been cut to shape  ???
Eventually got my pennel looking right
(http://i41.tinypic.com/secax4.jpg)
Keep the flies coming chaps , good for the inspiration  :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 24/03/2010 at 15:06
Whats yours made from ben?

Dressing is...

Hook - #2 4x longshank
Eyes - cranked tunsten flat end dumbells with Orvis Jurassic eyes epoxied to ends
Thread - white GSP
Body - Silver / Pearl UV straggle
Upper body - Nat Grizzle zonker strip
Lower body - white zonker strip
Head - Sculpin wool, black on top, below.

The zonkers are trimmed to a fish taper once tied in, same with the sculpin wool on the head.  Tying time is next to nothing but the hairdressing takes a while!

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Irvine Ross on 24/03/2010 at 16:55

Eventually got my pennel looking right


Baz

I think you need to change the name of your flee to Bling Pennel :z4

Irvine
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 24/03/2010 at 19:20
Hi Baz,
            Like the lite brite head. I think it was Jimmy Mcbride I first saw doing that quite a few years back.
Very effective addition to any traditional pattern by the way . Change the colour to suit the pattern.

Also great more fully dressed for instant muddlers!

Irvine, "Baz's Bling Fly" , has a certain ring to it ?  :z4

Paul.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 24/03/2010 at 21:49
Paul (fish),
The hooks are  http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2593.msg21355#msg21355

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 25/03/2010 at 00:10
(http://i41.tinypic.com/4rrq6c.jpg)

Butt Monkies on the vice today in anticipation of the first decent March Brown hatch :z4 

This one is a small one, #6.

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 25/03/2010 at 11:50
Hi Ben,
             Ok. Since no-one has asked the question .

Why are you tying smolt imitations ?

 Do you know of a place where big troots eat smolts on their downstream migration, (usually Maytime ) ??  :z4 or   am I reading too much into this ?

Just wondering ......... :wink

Paul.
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 25/03/2010 at 22:04
Hi Paul,

I may know of such a place  :z4

Smolt fly looks great in the water and swins even better since I bent the shank slightly to the side but, that pattern, with all the rabbit, wool & tungsten is tough to cast.  May have to try something else with synthetics.  That fly is revision three, I could only cast the 1st on a 10wt, number 2 didn't look right in the water and this one is as close I have to being workable. 

Yesterdays butt monkies scored well today  :wink

Any ideas anyone?

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Noel Kelly on 25/03/2010 at 22:20
Hi Paul,

Yesterdays butt monkies scored well today  :wink


Tell us more....
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 25/03/2010 at 22:29
Tell us more....

Can't do that Noel, sensitive!!  Will drop you a PM

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Rankine on 26/03/2010 at 14:12
Hi Ben,
             Gonna PM me too! I,m intrigued.
Paul. :z4
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Michael Buchan on 29/03/2010 at 18:36
Heres a Couple i tied last night

Floating mouse thing i saw on the net and wanted to have a bash at tying

(http://i44.tinypic.com/2mbn9.jpg)

And a few Harroups Transitional Duns for the Don. 

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2na8ymg.jpg)

View from the side.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/vykv1t.jpg)

Michael
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 29/03/2010 at 22:17
I'm liking the "floating mouse thing"  :grin

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 30/03/2010 at 23:03
A few tungsten headed 'nimfs'

(http://i39.tinypic.com/az6h02.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2ryt0ux.jpg)

(http://i42.tinypic.com/rh1lk1.jpg)

(http://i42.tinypic.com/20ff4lf.jpg)   (http://i41.tinypic.com/iqvvy1.jpg)

Yan
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 30/03/2010 at 23:53
New size 21 Tiemco 212Y's arrived today - just gave one a try.

Head is a bit scraggy as the fibres on a strand of peacock herl appear very long when tying a fly of this size, look leggy under the thorax but untidy at head.  :z8

(http://i41.tinypic.com/1255jzq.jpg)

(http://i44.tinypic.com/wlyypg.jpg)

Yan
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 31/03/2010 at 00:01
Hi "Yan"

Scraggy is good, scraggy works, I'm liking the look of all the flies in both your posts!

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 31/03/2010 at 07:44
A few tungsten headed 'nimfs'
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2ryt0ux.jpg)

Yan,

Furry boots did you get the tungsten bead that looks like a christmas tree decoration?

I like the Klink too although I'm not sure how you actually managed to tie it on a hook that small!

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 31/03/2010 at 10:16
Thanks Mike,

I'm keen to try them as they have a CDC 'collar' which I've not used on nymphs before. Also keen to try the Jig hooks on t' river.

Matt, the bead is a silver, 4mm, multi-faceted tungsten job which was bought 3 years ago from GAC (for JD's Grayling day out) and I just happened across last evening. You like?

Booked a day off agaes ago for the opening day tomorrow....................just cancelled it! much sadness :z6 :z15 :mad

Iain

Quote
looks like a christmas tree decoration
How very dare you!
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 31/03/2010 at 10:18
Fancy spending your day off on rescobie instead  :wink
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 31/03/2010 at 12:30
Thanks for the invite Kelly but I've already organised for a few things to happen work wise instead of on Friday.

Your a Jonah anyway - I'd probably blank!  :z4

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 01/04/2010 at 13:11
A couple of pulling buzzers

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030565.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030572.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/bigtroot/P1030594.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 01/04/2010 at 14:47
those look very nice Baz.  How do you fish those bad boys?
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 01/04/2010 at 15:43
Put them between a blob and a booby on a 4 flee cats and twitch them back on a midge tip normally works a treat  :wink
Top dropper on a floater would also be a good call with a weighted flee on the point  :z18
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 01/04/2010 at 18:10
Liking the overall colour scheme on the top one Baz, nice.

 :z16
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Mike Barrio on 01/04/2010 at 18:13
Yes, the olive one looks "fishy" :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Iain Goolager on 01/04/2010 at 18:15
Another made up fast sinking plummet and hope.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2eyb52r.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 01/04/2010 at 18:20
Nice and differant sharon  :z18
Very buggy looking, i have a few ptn's i will stick up later  :z16
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Matt Henderson on 02/04/2010 at 17:46
finally heading out to Haddo tomorrow to wet a line with the 3wt.  Very excited.  But a quick scan of my fly box told me that if it was a day for using lures then I was going to have a problem.  Something tells me that a 3wt line isn't going to turn over a extra long shank size six with a tungsten cone.  So i made a few like these

a couple of wooly buggers with 2.8mm tungsten beads which should get them down nicely. 

(http://i40.tinypic.com/eg111.jpg)

(http://i44.tinypic.com/5d5q4h.jpg)

I also tied a few snatcher sort of thingys. 

(http://i40.tinypic.com/25ap4id.jpg)

And a nice wee spider.  On a size 16, I've no idea how people tie on smaller than that!

(http://i40.tinypic.com/157lq2u.jpg)

fingers crossed I have some luck given the weather forecast!

cheers

Matt
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 03/04/2010 at 01:37
Put them between a blob and a booby on a 4 flee cats and twitch them

Is it just me or does this sound more like beastiality than fishing :shock

Sandy
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Paul Garrigan on 03/04/2010 at 15:11
Didn't get fishing today so tied a few instead. These should see me ok for klink n dink on the Don. Thanks for the photo tips. They are getting better. :z18

Very simple pattern
Hook: B175 size 14
Tail: Pheasant tail
Body: Pheasant tail
Rib: UTC copper brown wire
Thorax: Hares ear
Weighted with 4 turns lead wire

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2aj2v4m.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Stuart Smith on 03/04/2010 at 19:05
very nice little flys

stuart
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 04/04/2010 at 18:26
Is it just me or does this sound more like beastiality than fishing :shock

Sandy

Please explain youreself Sandy!

Blob being the attractor , booby being the fly to keep the flies in the zone for as long as possible and 2 nymphs in between!
When fishing a water where you have to drift and is bigger than 10 acres you have to optimize your chances of finding fish!
This is a standard cast for a midgtip setup , some might choose to fish it with three flies  :z2
Sounds like a statement of snobery if i was to be honest  :z8
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Ben Dixon on 05/04/2010 at 00:26
Baz,

I'd like to think it was the mis spelling of cast (cat) in your original post that prompted Sandys comment.  I mean stringing anything to a 4 flee cat, attaching it to midge tip and a booby and flinging it into lake does seem a bit harsh, even if you do not like cats  :z4

Nice flies.

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Barry Robertson on 05/04/2010 at 10:02
My apoligies if this was the case  :oops
Always have been one for jumping in head first, sorry if this was the case  :z13
Title: Re: Whats on your vice this winter?
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 05/04/2010 at 10:35
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it shows the state of mind! You took offense at my snobbery
and all I saw was blob, booby, cat and twitch . I thought you might be into fat bird fetshises.
Maybe I just read funny :z4

Mr B will tell you I ain't afraid of the "blob"
and enjoy the occasional rolypoly.........

Oh dear there I go again :shock
 :z4 :z4

sandy