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Title: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 15/01/2009 at 16:29
Hi folks :cool:

Spiders, in their numerous forms, are probably the most productive all round flies on small stillwaters in my experience, this is certainly the case at Haddo :wink

So ..... How do you fish them and which are your favourite spiders?

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Livingstone on 15/01/2009 at 18:35
My favourite spider is either a waterhen bloa type with a peacock herl head tied in front of the hackle or a grouse and orange with a dusting of hare's ear at the thorax.  On stillwaters it is usually single fly with a slow figure eight of short twitches but I also have found on the drop to work.  As for running water I usually fish them of the bend of a dry.  The waterhen bloa work well on my favourite little stream fish behind a #12 royal stimulator variant.  I usually have both spiders from #12-#18.  Failing that- a black spider plopped under overhanging branches is a good trick!
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 15/01/2009 at 18:37
Have not had to much luck with spiders  as i am to busy fishing buzzers probably!
Certain waters seam to take to a spider better, i guess it must just be a confience thing yet again  :z6
If its your thing and you know they will catch fish then i can understand why you would use them. I have tried various spiders and find a spider with a hot spot of red or green behind the hackle to be the most affective when i try them.
If i were to fish them it would be on a floating line as a top dropper more than likely with a couple of buzzers further down from it fished dead slowly - maybe with the odd pull  :z16
Have a look here at some nice spider patterns  :z16
http://www.spidersplus.co.uk/shop/intro_page_01.asp
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Ben Dixon on 15/01/2009 at 19:55
Overall, I would say that a pearly spider has caught me more fish on stocked stillwaters than any other spider pattern. 

I tie it on B175s in sizes 12 to 16, black 12/0 thread, opal mirage tinsel over black thread, XS silver Ultra Wire rib and about 3 turns of magpie scalp feather for hackle.  I tend to fish this pattern like a buzzer on a floating line with a very slow retrieve, longish pulls and let it sink again with takes usually coming when retrieving

Next most successful would be a GRHE spider or a hare & plover I fish these differently depending upon what is on the water.

I have also have excellent results with a glo brite pink spider hackled with a turn of med dun hen hackle and a rib of stretched opal mirage tinsel a fly I tied for grayling, sometimes works and sometimes totally ignored when it works it is lethal.

On wild waters black or claret pennells waterhen bloas, hare & plover, partridge & orange infact anything that works well on the river does well on calmer days although I would usually fish slightly larger sizes.


Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 15/01/2009 at 20:00
Hope your ready for a mamoth post here from Sandy  :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4
Iam guessing it will be quite a big one  :wink
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 15/01/2009 at 20:05
No Comment
 :cool:

Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 15/01/2009 at 20:15
Ok then, fair enough :roll

They died out after the last ice age i believe. Once there were many thousands of them all around the northern hemisphere and they resembled large brown hairy elephants.
They were hunted to extinction by our ancestors although today many of their remains are still found in receding glaciers and even dredged up from the bottom of the North sea.
Their tusk provide ivory which has a peculiar quality (i'm led to believe, although i have never seen any myself )and can be used to form componants for fly rods.
Being large creatures they were once thought fierce although it is more likely they were fairly placid, being that big, no-one really pisses you off too  much. Eh "H" :z4
However it is a pity that there are none around today as think of the Collie dogs you could tie :shock

Sandy
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Alex Burnett on 15/01/2009 at 20:23
Now look what you've started Baz.  :z4   :z4   :z4   :z4
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 15/01/2009 at 20:25
That took me a while to work out!  :oops
 :grin :grin :grin :grin :grin
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 15/01/2009 at 20:43
 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 x 2
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Ben Dixon on 15/01/2009 at 20:49
Yeah was quite smart for someone who still makes fishing rods out of wood  :z4  :z7

Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 15/01/2009 at 20:50
Quote from: Ben_D on 15/01/2009 at 20:49
Yeah was quite smart for someone who still makes fishing rods out of wood  :z4  :z7



What wood?  :z8
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Ben Dixon on 15/01/2009 at 20:51
Sorry, grass!

Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 15/01/2009 at 20:57
 :z12
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 15/01/2009 at 21:18
 :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops x 3
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 15/01/2009 at 21:35
Quote
Sorry, grass!

Yeah, and smoki'n the shavings!
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 15/01/2009 at 21:36
sorry

I meant smokin'
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 15/01/2009 at 21:38
Hmmm ..... I can do the GrassCasting and the :z3 ........ but I've given up shaving I'm afraid :z7

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 15/01/2009 at 22:24
I used to really enjoy fishing spiders on the river, 3 of them, downstram and across. Used to get loads of plucks and pulls though..and now i know why!  :oops

When it comes to stillwater, I tend to fish them like buzzers really. Seem to take the odd fish :)..not that i do a lot of stillwater fishing...just now!
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 15/01/2009 at 22:51
Stop press


Another iceage throwback spotted in aberdeenshire

I believe it to be a "Woolly Mike"

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/flies/woollymike.jpg)
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 16/01/2009 at 07:31
Quote from: Ben_D on 15/01/2009 at 19:55
Overall, I would say that a pearly spider has caught me more fish on stocked stillwaters than any other spider pattern. 

I think this might be the fly I posted about in the first Orvis Fly tying event. But pics would still be good ben :D  :wink
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Hamish Young on 16/01/2009 at 08:27
Quote from: spiderman on 15/01/2009 at 22:51
Stop press


Another iceage throwback spotted in aberdeenshire

I believe it to be a "Woolly Mike"

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/flies/woollymike.jpg)


Ah ha :! The relatively unknown Barrius Hirsutus Maximus, a rare thing to see even in the winter months.
Usually only seen in dry summers and apparently only then with shaved legs :shock :?
This unusual, shy and retiring species has been reported in parts of the UK, Spain and sightings have been reported in New Zealand - although the New Zealand sighting was some years ago it provided clear evidence that this species migrates great distances.
Although little is known about them, it is believed that they can be enticed into the open by strong coffee, marlboro cigarettes and chanting 'double taper fly lines'  :z8
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 16/01/2009 at 09:50
Hamish,

You’re mistaken. A closer look at the animal clearly shows a whitening of the underfur through age which indicates without a doubt that it is of the family Barrientus Simius.

Dr Alpen Stepenwolf MD
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Hamish Young on 16/01/2009 at 15:10
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb53/ABZSTILO/Outcasts/woollymike1.jpg)

Iain, you could be right. This particular specimen was spotted in the same area during the summer months, note the slightly different summer coat........  :z4
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 16/01/2009 at 17:39
 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 16/01/2009 at 19:44
 :z4 :z4

Nice one.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 16/01/2009 at 20:22
Sandy, Hamish, Iain .....  :z4   :z4  :z4

Re: Baz posted "I have tried various spiders and find a spider with a hot spot of red or green behind the hackle to be the most affective when i try them"

This makes sense Baz, cause when you fish a spider like a buzzer, it becomes a remarkably good buzzer :z3

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 16/01/2009 at 20:38
The link i sent with spiders plus have a good example of the nice hot spot spiders , i bought these before i learnt how to tie them!
They worked anyway  :z16
And i have buzzers with a hackle which i suppose you could say were spiders ,  i think some buzzers/spiders are very alike  :z4
http://www.spidersplus.co.uk/monthlyGuidePages/july.html
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 16/01/2009 at 21:55
Quote from: bigtroot on 16/01/2009 at 20:38

And i have buzzers with a hackle which i suppose you could say were spiders ,  i think some buzzers/spiders are very alike  :z4

methinks you might be right :z7

I fish various spiders and they are often presented to people as the way forward, unfortunatley the way back is sometimes they way forward ,therefore people dont understand :z6

But a Waterhen bloa fished on a floater and a long leader is as good a fly as any you will try :z16 (dark, light or blue :wink)
I would add a black spider tied with a starling hackle, a black peacock and plover, a partridge and peacock and a greenwell spider to the list and then have a selection of flies which i could fish any where on any type of line and have confidence in my ability to catch fish. Of course i would also have a few red hooks with tungsten beads as a back up (because they catch everywhere all the time , so its not fair to use them :wink) Still  :cool:

Fish them upstream, downstream, short line, long line, slowly, fast, fo8 whatever you like, to make them behave however you like, depending on what the fish might like.

One only hopes this is partially coherent, as two bottles of tullibardine whisky beer, the remains of a bottle of talisker and the start of a a bottle of Quintan ruban may have affected my ability to speak, if not to type :z4 :z4 :z4 :z4.

 :z18

Sandy
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: PDScott on 16/01/2009 at 22:02
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One only hopes this is partially coherent, as two bottles of tullibardine whisky beer, the remains of a bottle of talisker and the start of a a bottle of Quintan ruban may have affected my ability to speak, if not to type


Sandy,
Nice choice of whisky - I hope the head is O.K. in the morning!
Peter
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 16/01/2009 at 22:26
The quinta ruban is rather good :z16

mucho impressed, makes a change from javan' coffee :wink

 :z18

Sandy
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 18/01/2009 at 23:33
Would be intresting to see picures of diff variants people use on stillwaters, a spider means a million things really  :z4
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 19/01/2009 at 00:27
Hi Baz :z16

Here is a link to a thread about two of Sandy's favourites and these were very productive indeed at Haddo. The Waterhen Bloa in a recent step by step by Sandy is also a great stillwater fly :wink

http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=93.0 (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=93.0)

There are numerous spiders which fish well on a stillwater. Size 14s are perhaps the best, but 12 and 16 also produce good sport :wink

A few more examples:
Black Spider
Pearly Spider
Snipe & Purple
Greenwell's Spider
Hare's Ear Soft Hackle
Hot Spot Spider Red
Hot Spot Spider Green
Black & Peacock Spider
Partridge & Orange Spider

Cheers
Mike

Waterhen Bloa
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/zbloa300.jpg)

Hare's Ear Soft Hackle
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/zhare300.jpg)
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 19/01/2009 at 00:37
Quote from: bigtroot on 18/01/2009 at 23:33
Would be intresting to see picures of diff variants people use on stillwaters, a spider means a million things really  :z4


This is the kind of thing he is looking for one from bigtroots vice,he cant upload pics

enjoy  :z4


(http://i39.tinypic.com/24g98jt.jpg)

Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 19/01/2009 at 00:48
My first effort ok so have to work on my hackling skills,  :oops
Is the hackle to short or am i on the right kind of spec for something like this :z16

After having a look at the other photos of Sandy's spiders, it seams the bodies are all sparsely dressed - would that make my bodies over dressed or just differant ??
 :z18
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 19/01/2009 at 00:53
Quote from: monksmyre on 19/01/2009 at 00:37
This is the kind of thing he is looking for one from bigtroots vice,he cant upload pics

enjoy  :z4


(http://i39.tinypic.com/24g98jt.jpg)



If you replace your lime thorax with a couple of strands of peacock and add small jungle cock, then do the hackle with two turns of grey dun hen feather ....... you would be pretty close to Stan Headley's "Near Perfect Buzzer" and one of my firm favourite small stillwater flies! :wink
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 19/01/2009 at 00:59
Will see what i can do over the next few days!
Its a start anyway  :wink

Found this which should help me a tad  :wink
http://www.wild-fishing-scotland.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5356.0
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 19/01/2009 at 01:11
Great stuff Baz :z16

I couldn't find any decent pics of Stan's two best buzzers :z6 but the one below shows the Near Perfect Buzzer and the Blushing Buzzer.

The blushing buzzer should be easy enough to work out from the photo, but I'm afraid the Near Perfect's hackle is not the best in this pic, it should be a light grey.

(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/zbuzzblush.jpg)

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 19/01/2009 at 01:18
Lol we must of both been raking for the same thing , cheers anyway , thats the kind of thing i want to end up with  :z4
Just have to find some of that dun stuff  :wink
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 19/01/2009 at 08:40
Quote from: bigtroot on 19/01/2009 at 01:18

Just have to find some of that dun stuff  :wink

Baz

If you cant find hen hackles the right colour, use the inside feathers from the base of a Moorhen or coots wing, It'll give you the right kind of colour and be nice and soft too :z16

Incidently the picture mike posted was the lighter version of the waterhen bloa tied with the inside wing feather, If you are looking at the photos and the sparse bodies, its the traditional way to tie them, I suppose it depends what you are looking to imitate.The sparse bodies are primarily meant to be Upwings, which have translucent bodies. Midge are often quite tranluscent too, whereas Sedge and stonefly are solid colours and are dressed more heavily or with thread bodies.
 
I like the way you did the one in your picture, tied with lime or orange it should be very effective as a slow sinking midge pupa imitation with just a little kick about it :z16 I'd personally use a Starling back feather (nice iridescent green/purple/black) for the lime and i'd tie the orange with Golden plover (like the hares ear in the photo mike put up) or a dark greewells/cochybondhu hen (with nice light tips). I'd try to tie through the hackle like i did in the SBS it will lift the hackle out and make it kick :z16

Two of my favourites, from the last 2-3 years have been the partridge and peacock and the Black peacock and plover, they are great allrounders and seem to work on most waters i've tried at all times of the year, but particularly well just sub surface.

Link to original post on these flies   http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=93.0

Sandy
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Irvine Ross on 19/01/2009 at 08:41
Quote from: Mike Barrio on 19/01/2009 at 01:11
Great stuff Baz :z16

I couldn't find any decent pics of Stan's two best buzzers :z6 but the one below shows the Near Perfect Buzzer and the Blushing Buzzer.

Well you could call them buzzers, and St Headley obviously does, but once you put a hackle on it, I would say what you have is a spider on a bent hook.

But as Shakespeare said "What's in a name?"

Spizzers?  :grin

Irvine
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 19/01/2009 at 08:56
Hi Irvine :z16

That's exactly what Baz can have fun exploring :cool: If he bases some new patterns on slim versions of his favourite buzzers and maybe Diawl back bodies, he can add a couple of turns of soft hen hackle and come up with some rather nice stillwater patterns of his own, that he should hopefully fish with confidence.

I guess that was what Stan did? Both those patterns outfished any buzzer pattern that I had used before :wink

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 19/01/2009 at 09:57
We used this years ago,should still work :z4

(http://i41.tinypic.com/jpk40n.jpg)
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Irvine Ross on 19/01/2009 at 10:38
Quote from: Mike Barrio on 19/01/2009 at 08:56
I guess that was what Stan did? Both those patterns outfished any buzzer pattern that I had used before :wink


Yup.
That's because they are spiders :grin

Irvine
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 19/01/2009 at 11:23
bigtroots latest fish catcher

(http://i40.tinypic.com/x4gb60.jpg)
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 19/01/2009 at 12:09
gonna have to tie a few of these up and give them a wetting me thinks.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 19/01/2009 at 12:29
here is a nice looking spider from a great tyer - Hans Weilenmann

Golden Spider
(http://www.danica.com/flytier/hweilenmann/golden_spider.jpg)
http://ukflydressing.proboards47.com/index.cgi?board=tg&action=display&thread=2875
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 19/01/2009 at 14:14
Quote from: monksmyre on 19/01/2009 at 11:23
bigtroots latest fish catcher

Nice one, that'll catch fish :z16

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 19/01/2009 at 14:16
Quote from: monksmyre on 19/01/2009 at 09:57
We used this years ago,should still work :z4

Yes, I like that one too :wink

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 19/01/2009 at 21:29
Quote from: spiderman on 19/01/2009 at 08:40
Baz

If you cant find hen hackles the right colour, use the inside feathers from the base of a Moorhen or coots wing, It'll give you the right kind of colour and be nice and soft too :z16

Incidently the picture mike posted was the lighter version of the waterhen bloa tied with the inside wing feather, If you are looking at the photos and the sparse bodies, its the traditional way to tie them, I suppose it depends what you are looking to imitate.The sparse bodies are primarily meant to be Upwings, which have translucent bodies. Midge are often quite tranluscent too, whereas Sedge and stonefly are solid colours and are dressed more heavily or with thread bodies.
 
I like the way you did the one in your picture, tied with lime or orange it should be very effective as a slow sinking midge pupa imitation with just a little kick about it :z16 I'd personally use a Starling back feather (nice iridescent green/purple/black) for the lime and i'd tie the orange with Golden plover (like the hares ear in the photo mike put up) or a dark greewells/cochybondhu hen (with nice light tips). I'd try to tie through the hackle like i did in the SBS it will lift the hackle out and make it kick :z16

Two of my favourites, from the last 2-3 years have been the partridge and peacock and the Black peacock and plover, they are great allrounders and seem to work on most waters i've tried at all times of the year, but particularly well just sub surface.

Link to original post on these flies   http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=93.0

Sandy

This is more expense yet again  :roll
So i need moorhen and starling back, any recomendations where to pick these up was on the net last night looking for some dun hackles but there is so many i got lost.
Do you have to buy the dun as a saddle/cape or can you get council sized bags?
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 19/01/2009 at 21:37
Quote from: bigtroot on 19/01/2009 at 21:29
This is more expense yet again  :roll
So i need moorhen and starling back, any recomendations where to pick these up was on the net last night looking for some dun hackles but there is so many i got lost.
Do you have to buy the dun as a saddle/cape or can you get council sized bags?


Wings will be fine (pretty cheap :wink)
I would watch capes as most of them are genetic now, Genetic hen hackles are not really soft enough for spiders.
try to find indian or chinese hen capes, cheap and lovely and soft.
I'll have rake and see what i have, i can bring to Banchory in a couple of weeks, if i have anything appropriate :z16

Sandy
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 19/01/2009 at 21:46
Quote from: spiderman on 19/01/2009 at 21:37
Wings will be fine (pretty cheap :wink)
I would watch capes as most of them are genetic now, Genetic hen hackles are not really soft enough for spiders.
try to find indian or chinese hen capes, cheap and lovely and soft.
I'll have rake and see what i have, i can bring to Banchory in a couple of weeks, if i have anything appropriate :z16

Sandy

Thanks  :z16

Dont want to bum materials off of you but its always good to see what exatly you need to buy before going and wasting MORE money on materials that are not right for the job and have done that many times now  :z4
Who said this was a cheap hobby!
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 19/01/2009 at 21:48
Quote from: bigtroot on 19/01/2009 at 21:46

Who said this was a cheap hobby!


not me :z6

BUT Its a hobby that used to go cheep  :z4 :z4

Sandy
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 19/01/2009 at 22:41
Just threw this together - Think I'll give it a try sometime.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/goolager/IMG_6502.jpg)
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 19/01/2009 at 22:51
Thats a Humdinger  :z16  :z16, Imagine that hinging below a thinglma boobbbber  :z4    :z4

 :z18
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 19/01/2009 at 22:58
and some size 14 spiders I tied for fishing the river last year - never got round to trying them.

(sorry for the head on the 'red monkey' & the hackle tag on the 'purple lovely') time for spec's me thinks.

The red & black spider at the top is a shop bought Paul Proctor pattern.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/goolager/IMG_6508.jpg)

Iain
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 19/01/2009 at 23:05
Quote
Thats a Humdinger, Imagine that hinging below a thinglma boobbbber
   

I am  :z3  I wonder how much Sandy want for his Turbo Rod   :wink

Perhaps he'd swap it for a decent joke book! :lol
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 19/01/2009 at 23:06
you should get plenty movement from them ,I think they may even catch a troot or two .
 :z18
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 19/01/2009 at 23:54
Quote from: Goolager on 19/01/2009 at 22:41
Just threw this together - Think I'll give it a try sometime.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/goolager/IMG_6502.jpg)
Nice fly Iain  :z16
What did you use for the hackle and the cheeks?
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 20/01/2009 at 09:55
looking good Iain,


Quote
After the sunshine of the Golden Spider, it is now time for a dour, somber looking critter. The Dark Side of the Force 8-)
(http://www.danica.com/flytier/hweilenmann/darth_vader.jpg)
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 20/01/2009 at 17:12
Quote from: Goolager on 19/01/2009 at 23:05

Perhaps he'd swap it for a decent joke book! :lol

Have you got one  :z7

Nice flies iain, i'd lighten up on the hackles a touch though (1 turn less :wink)

Sandy
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 20/01/2009 at 19:25
Yeah Sandy,

too much hackle to be sure but the next batch will be more to your liking :wink

Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 20/01/2009 at 20:22
Quote from: Goolager on 19/01/2009 at 22:41
Just threw this together - Think I'll give it a try sometime.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/goolager/IMG_6502.jpg)

Nice one Iain :z16
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 20/01/2009 at 20:50
Quote
What did you use for the hackle and the cheeks?

Baz,

The hackle is Keough Hen Neck Black (from Orvis) & the cheeks are turall lime green floss (which I use as a tag or thorax on my standard black and green buzzers.

I do like this type of fly though, will have to tie a few variations.

Iain
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 20/01/2009 at 23:02
another...

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/goolager/IMG_6514.jpg)

All I need now is to have a few free hours to try them
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 20/01/2009 at 23:05
Looking good Iain, what size are you tying them? I reckon 14s will be good and 12s possibly too :wink

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 21/01/2009 at 12:01
Had a couple of troots on this one

(http://i43.tinypic.com/1zn4hau.jpg)
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 21/01/2009 at 13:00
Turned out to be an intresting Thread this one  :z16
Many ideas gained anyway thats for sure  :z4
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 21/01/2009 at 13:15
Quote from: bigtroot on 21/01/2009 at 13:00
Turned out to be an intresting Thread this one  :z16
Many ideas gained anyway thats for sure  :z4

Cool ..... and these flies that you are tying on curved buzzer hooks will look equally good on straight hooks :z17

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Iain Goolager on 21/01/2009 at 19:55
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Iain, what size are you tying them? I reckon 14s will be good and 12s possibly too

Mike, these are tied on size 12 B100's - looking at them they are bordering on the big for me so for sure I'd be happier on size 14's.

I just wonder if they will look as good on a straight hook? guess I'll try one and see.

Iain
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 22/01/2009 at 11:57
Another wee Variant   :wink

(http://i43.tinypic.com/1253wgg.jpg)
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Mike Barrio on 22/01/2009 at 12:05
Quote from: monksmyre on 22/01/2009 at 11:57
Another wee Variant   :wink

Very nice Derek, almost like a wee Dabbler :wink

Certainly looks "fishy"
Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 22/01/2009 at 20:44
Quote from: monksmyre on 22/01/2009 at 11:57
Another wee Variant   :wink

(http://i43.tinypic.com/1253wgg.jpg)

Whats the ingredients of that bad boy?
I like the look of that  :z16 It is quite like that irish cormorant i tied up on another thread but just loads better  :shock!
You even had the cheek to stick on Jungle cock  :z4 :z4
I must get some Jungle cock!
Must have a list the length of my arm now of stuff i must buy - so much for 2 months of no council tax  :wink
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 22/01/2009 at 20:56
Stripped peacock body
Hen Hackle
Bronze mallard for wing
Jungle cock cheeks split,you have everything barr the jungle cock  :z4  :z16
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 22/01/2009 at 20:58
No jungle cock but plenty of thon famous copper tinsel  :z16
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 22/01/2009 at 20:59
soory meant to say black micro thread, and size 12 b110 kamasan hook.
 :z18
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barry Robertson on 22/01/2009 at 21:00
Micro Sparton,  :wink, braw stuff, chunky hook though  :z4
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 22/01/2009 at 21:01
Quote from: bigtroot on 22/01/2009 at 20:58
No jungle cock but plenty of thon famous copper tinsel  :z16


Sunburst goose biots would be good,go on, go on, give it a try  :z16
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Derek McLaren on 22/01/2009 at 21:03
Quote from: bigtroot on 22/01/2009 at 21:00
Micro Sparton,  :wink, braw stuff, chunky hook though  :z4



If it's good enough for Davie McPhail it's good enough for scum like me  :z7  :wink  :z4