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Title: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Ben Dixon on 10/12/2008 at 10:54
I will be running a couple of flytying evenings at the Orvis Store in Banchory on Wednesdays evenings in January, I intend to have the first on Wednesday 7th from 6:30 pm until about 8:30.  I will be tying a selection of river patterns and will talk a bit about the way I fish the different types of flies.  There will be a 15% reduction on flytying materials on the day too.

If anyone is interested please drop me a PM as I can only accomodate so many.


Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Iain Goolager on 10/12/2008 at 12:39
Hi Ben,

I would be interested in attending.

Iain

Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 10/12/2008 at 16:44
Pm'd  :wink
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Irvine Ross on 10/12/2008 at 19:05
Ben

Count me in too please. Looking forward to it.

Cheers

Irvine
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 11/12/2008 at 08:50
And me! :)
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Ben Dixon on 12/12/2008 at 23:39
Cheers Guys,

I will drop a PM with a "plan" to everyone who has expressed an interest over the next day or two.

Ben
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: 8524gavin on 13/12/2008 at 03:48
Hi there
will be keen to attend too
gavin
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Hamish Young on 14/12/2008 at 00:18
I heard from a reliable source that the first evening is now fully subscribed  :z16

Excellent, see those who are going on the night for a mild ale afterwards  :?
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 15/12/2008 at 08:50
I heard from a reliable source that the first evening is now fully subscribed  :z16

Excellent, see those who are going on the night for a mild ale afterwards  :?

Great Idea I'll get my mate to drive :D
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Bigtrout on 16/12/2008 at 15:43
Had I lived closer and been quicker I may have enjoyed that!  :cry
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Ben Dixon on 28/12/2008 at 20:34
Could all those who expressed an interest please post back and let me know they are coming for sure.

Evening will run as planned, kicking off at about 18:30 and will run on until whenever.

Turn up at the shop sometime around quater past 6 and we will go from there, demo will be upstairs above the store.


Cheers

Ben

Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Irvine Ross on 29/12/2008 at 09:02
Ben

I'm still planning to be there on the 7th. :z18

Irvine
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 29/12/2008 at 12:02
I'll def be there, will double check with my mate tonight as he is coming round  :z16
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 29/12/2008 at 20:23
Yep mates defo coming! :z4
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: 8524gavin on 30/12/2008 at 05:39
Hi Ben
Afraid I won't be able to make it on the 7th , will still be at work :cry
Will be home the following week ,and will be looking forward to making it then
cheers
gavin
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 04/01/2009 at 22:12
will you just be demonstrating? or will we be tying along at the same time?
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Hamish Young on 05/01/2009 at 21:56
Hi Cameron,

Ben has computer issues at the moment, but we've just had a blether on the 'phone about Wednesday night and I'm posting on his behalf :z16

This time, don't bring your gear along. More of a demonstration and a chance to discuss stuff, principally this is because it looks like the evening is quite well subscribed and seating/space will be at a premium. Assuming all goes well and enough interest, the evenings will progress into the demonstration/tutorial/tie your own type thing  :cool:

An idea I had, which Ben is happy to live with, is a material swap on the night. I have loads of odds and sods I'm never likely to use and duplicates or too much of some stuff which I'd be prepared to swap for other stuff (that I probably don't need, but what the hey :!) so if anyone else would like to indulge in a material swap on the night, bring along  :z3

The Orvis sale continues, there'll be some special offers on the night on materials and other gear for those attending  :wink

See you then  :grin

Hamish  :z3



Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 05/01/2009 at 22:15
cool cool just wondering, all sounds good
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 07/01/2009 at 11:29
Remember its tonght folks :D

Really looking forward to this, saying hi to everyone etc
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 07/01/2009 at 14:59
An idea I had, which Ben is happy to live with, is a material swap on the night. I have loads of odds and sods I'm never likely to use and duplicates or too much of some stuff which I'd be prepared to swap for other stuff (that I probably don't need, but what the hey :!) so if anyone else would like to indulge in a material swap on the night, bring along  :z3

So who is gonna swap me with the stuff I think i'll never use?

Wouldnt mind some Ostrich, PowerSilk. Some kooky Hooks maybe  :z4
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Barry Robertson on 07/01/2009 at 23:06
Well, how was it? Anyone buy any exciting bits and bobs? :z18
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Peter McCallum on 07/01/2009 at 23:18
A good night Barry, you missed yourself. As for buying ask Hamish.
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Barry Robertson on 07/01/2009 at 23:22
If i known you were going Peter i might of joined in, maybe next time!
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 08/01/2009 at 07:49
Aye was a great night. Did some choice material swaps with Mr Young and also treated myself to 2 very nice dubbing boxes.

A request to Ben tho, any chance you could post up Pics of the flies you ties. I can remember them just now but would be handy to have them for when I get round to tying some up.
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 08/01/2009 at 08:32
Big thanks to Ben for his hospitality and the Balvenie ;). Unfortuantly I only got one nip as Hamish growled every time someone went near the bottle!

Was nice to know that the flies in my river box pretty much matched those tied, except for that Pink monstrosity!! Even I draw the line somewhere! ;)

Thanks again Ben.
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Irvine Ross on 08/01/2009 at 09:13
Yes indeed thanks to Ben for his hospitality and his time. I picked up more than a few interesting tips and it was nice to see Ben's variations on some patterns I have been tying.

I also came home with some nice feathers to add to my already over large collection. :z16

Irvine
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Iain Goolager on 08/01/2009 at 10:46
Just to add my 2p - it was a very worthwhile evening with lots of ideas for new flies and tips on how to tie more common patterns 'properly' (for me anyway).

Lots of new dubbing materials to try so much so that I tied a few GRHE's last night (with the split thread dubbed thorax)- ok they were not as 'shop bought' as Bens but a 50% improvement on my usual ones.

Can't wait to try out the other flies & am looking forward to the next event.

Iain
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 08/01/2009 at 11:08
Can't wait to try out the other flies & am looking forward to the next event.


Get ya EP fires at the ready! ;) and some nice big hooks! None of those fiddly Klinks :)

Maybe I should try a size 8/0 Klinkhammer baitfish imitation!!!!
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 08/01/2009 at 12:11
Get ya EP fires at the ready! ;) and some nice big hooks! None of those fiddly Klinks :)

Maybe I should try a size 8/0 Klinkhammer baitfish imitation!!!!

got the Ep sorted and some larger hooks also. Bought for when your taking me out ff for the pike??? hehe  :z13
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 08/01/2009 at 12:30
What you doing this weekend? I was meant to be going down to the Earn "bugging" but it looks like that might be scuppered now thanks to a Polytunnel near Peterhead needing picked up!! I wish she would check with me first!

Anyway, that means I might have a day free to go Piking with the fly if you are interested..or indeed still go after the Grayling, but only for a day.
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 08/01/2009 at 12:44
What you doing this weekend? I was meant to be going down to the Earn "bugging" but it looks like that might be scuppered now thanks to a Polytunnel near Peterhead needing picked up!! I wish she would check with me first!

Anyway, that means I might have a day free to go Piking with the fly if you are interested..or indeed still go after the Grayling, but only for a day.

Either would be cool. Havent caught either on the fly. Going to the fly casting thing on sat so only free on Sunday. Would that stop grayling fishing? Would that be ok for you? if not a weekend soon?

soo many questions haha
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 08/01/2009 at 15:06
Sunday is probably better for me as I think saturday she is wanting to pick up the tunnel...bloody 12 foot by 24 foot!!!! I was going to go in past the casting on the way back if i had time.

Problem with Sunday is getting tickets for the grayling where i wanted to fish..but I know a very good bit on a river for very large Pike..but not on the fly. I guess it depends if you want to fly fish or use baits? I have not had a grayling on a fly yet either so thats why i was having a weekend away.
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Hamish Young on 08/01/2009 at 16:08
A good night Barry, you missed yourself. As for buying ask Hamish.

Missed this post (thank you Mr B :z7)..... didn't buy much fly tying stuff, couple of useful swapsies on the night though.

However, it's just possible that I might have bought an Orvis rod, reel, line etc  :grin
It's also possible that it's 10ft, a 4 wt and a Helios  :cool:

OK - so I have bought a very nice toy indeed  :z12 Delivery in the next week or so  :z16

Just don't tell she who must be obeyed how much it all cost or I'm in line for having to crash at Bens for a bit  :shock  :lol
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 08/01/2009 at 17:57
OK - so I have bought a very nice toy indeed  :z12 Delivery in the next week or so  :z16

Its not the one i was waggling in the shop was it? If so, then see if Ben can get you another one...coz i have tainted it with bad luck!!!..lol
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Hamish Young on 08/01/2009 at 19:13
No, you're safe enough Rob it's yet to arrive at the shop - the Garioch curse hasn't landed on my rod  :wink
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Ben Dixon on 08/01/2009 at 20:03
Many thanks for the kind words guys and thanks to all who attended, I will post pictures of the flies over the net few days.

I would be up for running another night, probably some time in Feb and probably aimed at pike and or saltwater stuff.


Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Mike Barrio on 08/01/2009 at 20:12
Excellent stuff Ben :z16

It is great to have all these things going on at this time of year!

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 09/01/2009 at 08:37
Further to Bens demo of tying the Klinkhammer, I was looking for photos to get the proportions correct and I came across this site http://www.danica.com/flytier/hklinken/klinkhamer_special.htm

This is the chap that developed the fly in the first place. His way of tying off is extremely easy and I was managing to do a 3 turn whip finish with 8/0 thread with no problems on a size 16. There is also a detailed history of the fly and a step by step. Bens method of tying in the peacock herl is much better though!!

Thought some of you may be interested.
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Hamish Young on 09/01/2009 at 08:49
Indeed, very useful link that Rob  :cool:
When Ben tied the 'klink' it was the first time I had seen a 'klink' being tied properly, can now see where I've been going awry all these years.......  :shock Will have a wee go myself tonight perhaps  :z18
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 09/01/2009 at 09:02

When Ben tied the 'klink' it was the first time I had seen a 'klink' being tied properly, can now see where I've been going awry all these years.......  :shock

Totally agreed!! I always wound up the post and secured by creating a loop and passing the hackle tip through it and pulling down to lock. It was so fiddly and normally ended with the hackle springing off!

I have some very high quality hoffman hackles (black though and I know Ben said he did not like black) so will have a go at the weekend at tying some with the correct sized hackle instead of the monsters from last night!..lol
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Irvine Ross on 09/01/2009 at 09:53
When Ben tied the 'klink' it was the first time I had seen a 'klink' being tied properly, can now see where I've been going awry all these years

Blimey! I thought everyone tied Klinkhammers that way. I was lucky and caught the article in FFFT by Hans himself before I had tied any so I have always followed his step by step instructions. Ben's technique with the peacock herl was good. I got fed up with the peacock breaking so I started using peacock Glister instead. I doesn't appear to make any difference, the trout still take them.

Not sure I agree with Hans about the Klink floating on the surface tension and the hackle. Mine stay afloat because of the buoyancy of the Poly wing post.

Irvine
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Hamish Young on 09/01/2009 at 10:16
Previously, I had always finished my klinks off "at the head", so tying off on the post was an eye opener for me.
Tricky method at first, but my first efforts have gone ok :cool:

Might try some of that aero wing Ben was using, see if it's better than the dapping floss I currently use for the posts :z7

Hamish  :z3
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 09/01/2009 at 10:34
Might try some of that aero wing Ben was using, see if it's better than the dapping floss I currently use for the posts :z7

I use Polyyarn. I like the fact it compresses really well when doing the post and its not slippery so the waked thread really sticks to it well. I have some stuff that I believe is dapping floss repackaged and I tried that remembereing what you had said, but for me it did not produce a nice compressed post.
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 09/01/2009 at 11:07
I use Polyyarn. I like the fact it compresses really well when doing the post and its not slippery so the waked thread really sticks to it well. I have some stuff that I believe is dapping floss repackaged and I tried that remembereing what you had said, but for me it did not produce a nice compressed post.

I also use polyyarn, and ones finished, mess it up a bit as its pretty straight stuff.

I tied my klinks much like hamish but will give this way a go once my damn vice arrive, no sign of it yet..

p.s. Did you get my PM Rob?
Title: Re: Flytying Evening @ Orvis Banchory
Post by: Cameron deBoth on 15/01/2009 at 12:38
Ben,

Any chance of a few pics of the flies you tied at the last night?

Im trying to remember a pattern you tied that fished just under the surface but my minds drawn a blank. Was it one of the spiders?

cheer
Cam