Fishing The Fly Scotland
Index => Main Discussion Area => Topic started by: nosrac on 06/10/2008 at 13:36
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Hi People
Am looking to do some Pike fishing in the area (Aberdeenshire) and wondering where i can do this and how much does it cost? :z8
Are you allowed to fish Loch of Srathbeg or St Michaels loch near colliston?
I know you can fish Loch of Skene but i think it is for members only :cry ???
regards
Carson
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I remember this being discussed briefly before, try searching as I cant remember which thread it was in!
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No to Strathbeg...unlikely there are any Pike in there, but its a bird reserve, no to St.Michaels...private property and still under negotiation as to whether we will ever get access. looks unlikely.
Skene is season ticket, apply to Dunecht estate.
Aboyne loch is £6 a day but many of the Pike have been illegally removed for food!! this last two years
Loch Kinord is £10 a day, BUT, its closed now until April(ish) and has also been hit by our friendly Pike eaters. they have also succeeded in leaving behind a hell of a mess :mad
Other lochs in the area are private and strictly no fishing (Dinnet and Davan)
All in all, this is the reason we tend to travel away from aberdeenshire and fish for Pike up north.
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Hi
There is another place that i fished when i was a lad (i am only 31 but married recently and feel old)its called Fedderate reservior up in New Deer and had good stocks of trout wild and reared.
always thought there would be pike in there and not a place any one fishes alot.
has anyone fished this place lately?
Maybe worth a try?
Regards
carson
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Carson
The Fraserburgh Angling club still has the fishing rights on Fedderate , it closes with the end of the Brown Trout season though, you can get day tickets from Whitecairns croft during the season. No Pike as far as I know.
Cheers
Jim
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Hi Carson
Would echo Jims thoughts on Fedderate :z16
Pike in the Don if you know where to look :wink
Still season nearly finished now :cry
Sandy
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St Michaels Loch , well I never .... quite a story http://www.pikezander.co.uk/pike_story_john_branch-evans.html
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Jim
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Thats a great story Jim :z16
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Yup, a cracking story Jim.
Iain
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And a well known one from those in the know ;)....hence the reason we have been trying to get legal access for close on 15 years now. Managed to fish it once or twice as a guest, but we where only allowed on for a few hours and both times it was horendous weather.
Reading the story though always makes me laugh...its very much like Skene..shallow and certainly not a "vent from an old volcano"! :z4 Also, the fish has been under much debate about its true size....if thats a 16 year old kid holding that fish, its probably mid to high 20's.
Horace from Somers fished the loch for years and years, both as a kid and upto the 70's and had a fair few big pike, but nothing over 25 pounds.
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The "vent from an old volcano" did make me laugh. It seems to be surrounded by sand dunes if it is the place I am thinking of. Is there much trout in the loch as well?
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No, St Michals is surrounded by farmland...and there is a farm and cottage overlooking it. For a good few years now its been leased by a woldfowling syndicate to blast the geese out of the sky. I think the water you are thinking of is Sand Loch ..supprisingly named really :z4 :z4 :wink
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Zeolite
You may be thinking of the "Sand Loch" which is just behind the dunes at Collieston , that has Perch but no trout as far as I know. No Fishing as its an SSI though.
The loch in question is abot a mile north of turn off to Collieston on your left as you are heading towrd Cruden Bay, its not really visible from the road. The loch and 80 acres of land was for sale for £80k a few years ago , seems like a bargain. I beleive it does hold trout, never haerd of anyone fishing it though.
http://peoplesmap.com/?y=830796&x=402874&level=11&layer=IMAGE&layers=IMAGE,PEOPLESMAP,POPULAR,PEOPLESMAPU&overlays=
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Jim
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Ah OK
I have flown over it many times and wondered.
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I beleive it does hold trout, never haerd of anyone fishing it though.
Most deffo had trout as it was stocked for a number of years and the Pike killed...but the syndicate lost its lease when they started to use the outhouses as a toilet and using a boat against the experess wishes of the owner, allegedly.
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Rob - what do you mean by friendly pike eaters?
What kills or eats Pikes?
Or did i miss the point lol
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Rob - what do you mean by friendly pike eaters?
What kills or eats Pikes?
Or did i miss the point lol
I dont mean to sound rasist or anything as I AM NOT, AT ALL!!!!!!!
But a certain nationality, has been taking all the pike and eating them. :z8
Now I must reiterate I have no recial tendencies and know a few Polish people (non-fishers) but it is rather frustrating how the pike fishing has been destroyed in Aberdeenshire because of this. Or so ive been told.
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Ah OK
I have flown over it many times and wondered.
Its amazing just how many small waters there are, once you get airborne.
If you are seeing them, at guess you must be flying with Scotia? that tends to be their route.
If you fly Bristows you'll get to wave at Mike :z4
Still you get a great view from 1500ft
Sandy
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Been flying out to oilrigs for 20 years now so flown in and out of Aberdeen on all routes.
I do have a question about the over-fishing of pike. All national stereotypes aside I thought that once a body had pike they were almost impossible to remove. I have heard of trout lochs being ruined by introduced pike eg Freuchie. Surely to recover it all you would need would be some pike eating fishing enthusiasts and time?
No axe to grind here. I am just curious.
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Zeolite.
I beg to differ about Freuchie...it used to be a very good, balanced fishery, with good trout fishing and good Pike..but thanks to the intervention of man, ie. the trout syndicate started to kill the bigger Pike, they ended up with a fishery full of small Pike. The Tayside Branch of the PAC went to advise them on the management and control of Pike, with a little success. When a Pike syndicate got hold of it, the balance started to be re-addressed and the trout started to show signs of improvement...but then the Pike guys lost the lease. This is a pattern that has happened time and time again and more enlightened fishery managers are starting to realise that Pike, when at the correct biomass, will enhance a fishery by keeping down the coarse fish and picking off injured or sick trout. This can be seen at waters like Rescobie, Menteith, Butterstone etc that have stopped netting Pike and have seen profits to be made from allowing pike fishing in the winter. Even the likes of Steve Parton, Bob Church, Roman Moser, Peter Cockwill, etc etc have fished for Pike on the fly in trout waters and see Pike as a valuable resource.
Its all to do with biomass of predator versus prey. There is lots of info on the web about it and i dont have the space to go into it ;) but if you are interested about Pike in trout waters and how they can improve rather than hinder the trout population have a look here. http://www.pacgb.co.uk/pdfs/pikeinyourwaters.pdf
With Kinord, Aboyne and Skene the Pike population has been unbalanced by the use of set lines and illegal removal of fish. Many of the large fish have been killed and so we are seeing an explosion of tiny Pike that are not being controlled by the bigger females.
What one has to remember is that a large Pike is a lazy b#gger. It will rather scavange than chase and by and large, a healthy trout is way too quick and agile for a Pike. During the survays that have been done on Kinord and davan by the University its been shown that the most predated on species was the common eel, followed by Perch, then trout. However, a small pike is a typical kid in that it will grab at anything that looks edible and this can lead to damaged trout. So a water with lots of small pike is a bad thing, a water with big Pike is a good thing.