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Index => Main Discussion Area => Topic started by: Graeme Stewart on 25/05/2018 at 08:49
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Hi Guys,
Newb to the forum, but been lurking here for a while after discovering Mr Barrio's lines, being completely ingnorant of them for 18 years :z2
After accumulating flies over a number of years (never got the hang of tying my own and my finger dexterity and eyesight means that it is now probably a non starter now anyway) I had a couple of what I would call (wet) Dunkeld's in my boxes that I've bought somewhere either online or at a tackle shop.
Unusual tie in that it had an orange fluro tail :shock and hackle was fairly soft (almost maribou/zonker like soft) after the jungle cock. On a size 12 or 14.
Easy thing would be to post a photo I know, but both were chewed and lost by overly zealous fish recently.
Does anyone have any idea where I can get my hands on similar? I have other ties of Dunkelds but just not the same (or as "successful").
Ta muchly
Graeme
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Some keen forum tier of flies might help?
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Graeme,H
I can help but a little more detail of the pattern would allow me to make a proper copy. Is it a palmered orange hackle like the original ? Is the wing bronze mallard as it should be or is it grey squirrel which is sometimes used as a substitute ?
Although you said the fly was damaged, any photo would be good.
Eddie
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Aha!
Whilst browsing this very forum, some kind soul had taken a picture of his fly box with his traditional flies, although he no longer appears to be active here. I've lightened the picture and brought up the contrast a little to make it clearer.
At the bottom of the picture is a brown hairy splodge with an orange fluro tail. I guarantee if you turn it over, it'll have a jungle cock eye and is a hairy dunkeld of sorts. The tail is a bit untidy on this one and seems to be spread horizontally rather than tight and vertical (similar to a fulling mill special dunkeld)
Does this help any chaps?
Graeme
(https://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/11969-010618154854.jpeg) (https://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=5066)
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Graeme,
That looks like CDC as if it was a floating sedge pattern not at all the Dunkeld that you were describing earlier. Did your Dunkeld float?
Eddie
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Hi Eddie,
No, mine was a definite wet, didn't float.
The one in the pic has a tail, not what I'd think a traditional CDC would be, as the tail would make it too heavy to properly float and with a jungle cock eye and fluro tail, what would be the point?
I will hold my hands up to being an eejit with me using the term "hackle" in the original description rather than "wing" old age catching up with me I think!!
Graeme
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Did it look anything like this:
https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideoangler.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F04%2Ftying-a-competition-dunkeld-wet.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideoangler.com%2Fvideo%2Ftying-a-competition-dunkeld-wet-fly-by-davie-mcphail%2F&docid=Gh6SqUBOammjkM&tbnid=spUKF5oucE9T4M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwic5OKBx8vbAhVLJcAKHeQTAHYQMwg7KAAwAA..i&w=1280&h=720&bih=635&biw=1366&q=dunkeld%20with%20orage%20floss%20tail&ved=0ahUKEwic5OKBx8vbAhVLJcAKHeQTAHYQMwg7KAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8 (https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideoangler.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F04%2Ftying-a-competition-dunkeld-wet.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideoangler.com%2Fvideo%2Ftying-a-competition-dunkeld-wet-fly-by-davie-mcphail%2F&docid=Gh6SqUBOammjkM&tbnid=spUKF5oucE9T4M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwic5OKBx8vbAhVLJcAKHeQTAHYQMwg7KAAwAA..i&w=1280&h=720&bih=635&biw=1366&q=dunkeld%20with%20orage%20floss%20tail&ved=0ahUKEwic5OKBx8vbAhVLJcAKHeQTAHYQMwg7KAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8)
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Thanks for that Robert, close... but no
I've been through pages and pages of t'interweb looking for it :mad, I just wish I could remember where they came from.
Luckily, the friendly lot that you guys on here are, someone has tied me up some that should be similar - I'm expecting them in the post today or tomorrow. I'll post a pic when they arrive.
Not been out with my old boat partner for a while, so next time, I'll be eyeing his flybox to see if I've given him one in the past.
The closest I've seen is this, with a thicker maribou/whatever wing but without the crystal thread and in a trout version - the tube being replaced with an orange fluro tail:
(https://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/1860_19_11_10_4_07_07.JPG)
Cheers
Graeme
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Well, I must pass my thanks to Mr Laraway for his patience - he has managed to tie a perfect replica of what I was looking for, including some variants.
I only hope that the fish don't notice a difference, I certainly couldn't.
My appreciation and thanks to James for taking his time to do this for "a new guy" on here.
I have asked him to post a photo or two of his handiwork, my understanding is that it is a tie of a Dunkeld, but I'm sure somebody may be able to tell me exactly what it is.
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was a pleasure to take up the challenge !
At the end of last year i picked up a couple of packets of marabou bloods, and one packet happened by chance to be the right 'brown'
I think they look really nice on wee doubles....
(https://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/11649-140618090601.jpeg) (https://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=5075)
(https://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/11649-140618090627.jpeg) (https://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=5076)
(https://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/11649-140618090650.jpeg) (https://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=5077)
i may try them for my local brownies too :z12
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Very nice job there James!!
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Very nice job there James!!
Sadly nothing like the quality of your tying !!!!
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It's just practice and some more practice, oh, and just a bit more practice!! Start with an easy pattern
Dave