Fishing The Fly Scotland
Index => Main Discussion Area => Topic started by: Iain Goolager on 05/09/2008 at 18:56
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Got an evening pass yesterday so decided to fish for Ide @ Aboyne Loch.
Robs previous post regarding the sport to be had at the Loch on trout gear and traditional trout flies (and my ignorance as to the species) appealed to my new found desire for fly fishing diversification.
With the best will in the world I knew it was going to be a short session travelling to Aboyne from Altens and realising that darkness falls around the 8:30 mark.
Although I was as excited as a wee loon I must admit that the amount of weed present in the Loch coupled with the limited casting locations for the bank fisher did dis-hearten me a tad. That said the amount of fish showing all over the Loch soon brought fresh optimism.
I fished from a few likely spots but to no avail, with weed hook ups a bit of an annoyance. I could see gaps in the weedbeds but bankside trees and vegetation prevented me from making the decisions.
Another move produced a good few tugs/ plucks over a 5 min period and this got the old adrenaline pumping, eventualy leading to a nice Ide of 7-8" to the Black Pennel. (well, I think it's an Ide!).
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/goolager/IMG_0638.jpg)
Two nice fish each about 1 1/2 lb jumped in unison not 10' from me but I failed to hook either - oh well.
I managed another three fish two in the 7-8" bracket and one smaller @ 5" but with a few more good offers and the constant rises from much larger fish going on around the Loch I'm sure I'll be back again but in the 'Old Lady' (Float Tube).
I was using a 5wt outfit (wish I'd taken the 4wt) and would use the 3wt in the Tube - Floating line and two flies, Pete Ross & Black Pennel (3 fish to the P Ross)
I saw many fish taking flies from the surface and if I could have got in amongst them I'd have had on the dry.
Iain
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Hiyah,
Is that not a roach ? I thought that Ide were longer in the body.
Just looks like a River Forth roach that I caught many aeons ago.
I could be wrong mind never having seen an Ide in the flesh .
Paul.
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From Google,
Ide (Leuciscus idus) - Orfe (Leuciscus idus aberr orfus)
The Ide and it's golden form, the Orfe are found in ponds, lakes and rivers. They have a relatively deep, somewhat flat-sided body, a rather small head and quite large eyes. The Ide is greyish blue to blackish green on it's back, silvery sides and a white belly with a deeply forked tail. It is not a native of the British Isles, being more commonplace in Europe.
Picture looks like Goolager's fish .
Wrong again..........
:shock
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Thats a young Ide...on a Roach of that size the anal and caudal fine are much redder and the caudal fin is forked rather than straight edged..its not until Ide reach around a pound that they start to "elongate" and darken up, becoming more chub shaped, with a large(ish) mouth.
As you can see on Iains fish, its darker and more blunt nosed.
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/backs4more/DSCF1872.jpg)
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GHRE,
It's my fault for only catching tiddlers! If I'd caught an adult identification could have been easier. :z12
First time i'd seen an Ide also
Iain
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Hi Iain,
" It's my fault for only catching tiddlers! " :z4
Cheers,
:z18
Paul.
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I thought it looked like a Roach too :z6, a decent one at that :z16
Very similar to the ones Daniel and I were catching this summer, even the position and shape of the lateral line, Mind you young Bream can look very similar to young roach as well.
Interesting to know that young Ide look like this for the future,cheers :z16
While we are identifying things what are these?
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/skuesapprentice/mysteryfish.jpg)
The location is a secret :wink
Sandy
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That looks like a rather ish tank ;)
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I can quite honestly say its not a tank.
What type of fish is that? :z4
Sandy
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Some sort of Mullet??
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I can quite honestly say its not a tank.
What type of fish is that? :z4
Sandy
Are you suuuuuuuuure ;)...Just the blue reflection looks like Actenic light, the same as i use on my Marine tanks for the corals.
I presume its salt water then?..judging by the bubbles (salt water "holds" smaller bubbles than fresh water)
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We were in Cornwall the Sky was Blue :z7
And the water was salty :z16
Sandy
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My money is on thick lipped grey mullet, and you CAN catch them on the fly!!!
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Hi ,
Bass ?
Paul.
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Hi ,
Bass ?
Paul.
:z16
Part of a large shoal we watched come into a very shallow inlet on the south cornish coast.
No bloody rods at the time either (mind you they spooked pretty quick :z6), it was a nice spot for a picnic though :roll
Sandy
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Looks like the Don Estury to me.. :z4 :wink :z4 :wink
I think I would have been straight down Lidl and bought a cheap outfit!! :)
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Hi Sandy,
Nice photo . The fold down dorsal ,(it fits almost flush into the bass's back) , almost disappears at times making them look a bit different .
Bass all up and down this coast by the way , not just in the Don estuary.
Paul.
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Bass all up and down this coast by the way , not just in the Don estuary.
You know that, I know that, lots of folk know that ;)
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You know that, I know that, lots of folk know that
PM Sent
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No PM received...the conspirecy thickens heehee
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Mmmmm.....
Reply to your PM sent last night tea time. Maybe got lost in Hadron Collider eh ?
:wink
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Hadron Collider?
Isn't that a low water Salmon Fly? :z6
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Mmmmm.....
Reply to your PM sent last night tea time. Maybe got lost in Hadron Collider eh ?
:wink
Bang goes my theory ;)
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Bang goes my theory
:z4
loose feeding with a particle mix ? :shock
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Talking of loose feeding etc...there have been some huge Salmon catches on the River Wye down south by Barbel anglers using Halibut Pellets!! I wonder what the Dee board would say if I used a swimfeeder and pellets on Blackhall?.. :wink :z7
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Rob,
I wonder what the Dee board would say if I used a swimfeeder and pellets on Blackhall?..
I have a fair idea. :z10
Paul.