[Euan Innes]

Lindsay,
Sandy's description of how to get the needle in is spot on. It is a kind of twisting, rolling action, with lots of patience. Instead of the C&F tool I use one of these,



From Ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Double-Ended-Pin-Drill-Vice-Ideal-4-Model-Making-Hand-Tools-Accessories-/171000797877?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&var=&hash=item27d0711ab5

and a standard sewing needle. As long as the eye of the needle takes an Orvis SS 4x leader tip so it can be pulled through the line all is good.
I carry two spare needles just in case I bend one 

 

[Noel Kelly]

I love this forum  

After posting earlier i googled the c&f tool. First hit, a discussion on the ffforum so had a look, guys bending and breaking needles all over the shop! So went on eBay bought a pack of needles. Was thinking could maybe find something at work to use for holding the needles. Came back on and soundmixer has the perfect solution hadn't thought of those!  

Cheers sandy  will prob have a go whenever they arrive but if I have a problem will be turning up with a bag of spools!

[Loxiafan]

Managed (finally) with the C+F 3 in 1  As you say Sandy it is a "rolling" or twisting action rather than pushing. This was on an old line, will wait till I get the longer leaders before doing it in anger.

Cheers for the info Euan.

L

[Allan Liddle]

Like the look of that Sandy  much better than my current set up of stripping the outer core and applying musclin 
Lazy angler, moi? 
Then again it's a simple set up, hastle free, small enough loop does not interfere with line action (or at least minimal enough to make it insignificant) musclin keeps the line on surface and i have not found water ingress any form of an issue, line does not sink, or even if it does it's minimal.  Although i clean my lines regularly (every couple of outings or so) and apply musclin to the tip so possibly this is helping prevent the above?

But all that said, yup your set up much more profesional, clinical and looks so much better. 

[Loxiafan]

Like the look of that Sandy  much better than my current set up of stripping the outer core and applying musclin 
Lazy angler, moi? 
Then again it's a simple set up, hastle free, small enough loop does not interfere with line action (or at least minimal enough to make it insignificant) musclin keeps the line on surface and i have not found water ingress any form of an issue, line does not sink, or even if it does it's minimal.  Although i clean my lines regularly (every couple of outings or so) and apply musclin to the tip so possibly this is helping prevent the above?

But all that said, yup your set up much more profesional, clinical and looks so much better. 

I had a small metal loop ring on my dry tippet on Monday, but sadly couldn't put it to the test. I am beginning to think Iain's RM loops is really the most practical solution - it would allow me to have a level tippet for spiders and nymphs ( which I seem to prefer).

Just got a Mallard 2wt DT for the Streamflex Plus - gonna be fun seing if it likes underlining ( I think it will !)

Lindsay