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Title: broken vice
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 05/04/2013 at 22:50
After many years of faithful service, I managed to break my vice tonight. Personally I blame goolager as I decided to make some tiny nymphs on size 20hooks having seen some of his creations in previous posts. Anyway enough bitching I need to buy a new vice which can hold hooks from Salmon size flies down to tiny trout sizes.

I tie a lot of flies in a season and need something robust and reliable, any suggestions?

Eddie.
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Hamish Young on 06/04/2013 at 08:11
How much do you want to spend and how much can you get away with spending :?

H
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 06/04/2013 at 11:14
Hamish,
the answer to both your questions is up to £250.00.

Eddie.
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Hamish Young on 06/04/2013 at 11:53
OK, how's about:
http://www.fishingmegastore.com/stonfo-flytec-lever-vice~8815.html
or
http://www.orvis.co.uk/store/product.aspx?pf_id=62KE
or dig a wee bit deeper
http://www.lakelandflytying.com/2531/products/renzetti_presentation_2000_vice.aspx
or just a smidgen more.....
http://www.lakelandflytying.com/2969/products/marc_petitjean_swiss_vice_c_clamp_version.aspx

I have a different version of the Petitjean and love it - it does take pretty much hooks of every size  :wink
Wallet crunchingly expensive, but they are quality.

H :cool:
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Mike Barrio on 06/04/2013 at 12:13
Has anybody tried the Vosseler vice? What do you make of it?

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Marc Fauvet on 06/04/2013 at 12:49
Has anybody tried the Vosseler vice? What do you make of it?

it's the perfect Throne-Vice !    :z16
(http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/gallery/1362_06_04_13_12_49_08.jpeg) (http://www.fishingthefly.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=491)
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Mike Barrio on 06/04/2013 at 13:05
I like it  :z4  :z4  :z4
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Hamish Young on 06/04/2013 at 16:22
That's just wrong on soooo many levels it's...... just wrong  :z7
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Sandy Nelson on 06/04/2013 at 16:46
Eddie

What are you used too? Different styles seem to suit different people.
I can't get to grips with a dynaking angled head style but Luurve the Renzetti vices. I currently tie on an Abel vice which i got for the hook range.
Don't think they make them any more, But i used to use a Renzetti presentation 3000 and it was fantastic for trout flies, i changed it Because i needed a bigger range.
Now i'm home i would happily swap the Abel for another Renzetti 3000.

The renzetti traveller vices are brilliant and good value and i think if i had £250 to spend i'd get one of these , the range is less specific than the 3000 ands it covers loads of sizes. http://www.lakelandflytying.com/73281/products/renzetti_traveler_2300_black_vice.aspx

But then i like Rotary vices :z16

If you like pivot head vices The DYna Kings are mostly in Budget and they are Built to last and awesome quality.

Lots out there and you will likely get different ideas from different people, try to figure out where you sit your hands when you tie and that should suggest what will be comfortable :z16

Sandy
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 06/04/2013 at 17:07
Guys,
thanks for all the advise. So many choices out there. I am used to a rotary vice and I must say that the Renzetti range looks great so I will go out and get my hands on some different models before shelling out the cash but I need to do it soon as Steven has my trout fly boxes in New Zealand and I need to tie some in the next couple of weeks. :z16

Eddie
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Ben Dixon on 06/04/2013 at 18:20
Veniard No.4 spring lever vice, £30 ish and is all that is required.  Takes pretty much any size of hook and there is no fannying about setting tension.  When the jaws wear out, bin it and buy a new one, I doubt you'd break one.

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Iain Goolager on 06/04/2013 at 21:20
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Veniard No.4 spring lever vice, £30 ish and is all that is required

Nice one Steptoe!  :z4

Iain
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 06/04/2013 at 21:52
Iain,
What vice do you use for small hooks?

Eddie.
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Iain Goolager on 06/04/2013 at 22:37
Ed,

I've got a Snowbee Waldron, bought it when it was £180, it's now £299 from Sportfish. Decent vise, but a £300 vise  ZX2 . I liked the look of the Renzetti's when I was deciding which type to buy but the price and local availability of the Snowbee was favourable.

I'm not best placed to advise what to get as I haven't really physically seen what's out there at the moment.

Iain
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Ben Dixon on 07/04/2013 at 08:27
Nice one Steptoe!  :z4

Iain

I'm not joking mate, see all these vices with twiddly knobs to set hooks and bobbin cradles & interchangeable jaws etc?  It just makes tying a fly take longer than it needs to.  OK, so the Veniard one ain't pretty but the style of vice and its functionality is superb and all it needs to be.

Maybe worth looking at the Regal vice Eddie save you getting the piss ripped for Veniard pauper edition vice, it's the same thing but looks nicer and cost about 8 times the money :z4

Cheers

Ben
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Derek Roxborough on 07/04/2013 at 14:12
I  have a regent lever vice I have had it for about 15 years now with no problems from 18s to salmon and pike flies, cosidering I started tying with a  pin vice over 50 yrs back the regent is a dream, easgach 1
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 08/04/2013 at 07:59
I like my Anvil vice. Solid, £100 and takes 5/0 to 24 (according to the advert). I have gone down to size 20 Spider hooks with no issues.
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 08/04/2013 at 12:39
https://www.sportfish.co.uk/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/7581/?gclid=CPXNmef9urYCFbLMtAodkk8AFg

Rob,
if it is the same one as this then that is what I broke. Ithink that i was a little bit heavy handed.

Eddie.
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 08/04/2013 at 12:48
https://www.sportfish.co.uk/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/7581/?gclid=CPXNmef9urYCFbLMtAodkk8AFg

Rob,
if it is the same one as this then that is what I broke. Ithink that i was a little bit heavy handed.

Eddie.

Oh dear, yes, that is the one. I have had mine around 9 years now, and have used if for 6/0's down the way.

You do know they have a lifetime warrenty?

I have heard of the jaws going, but all have been replaced for free.

You must have been heavy handed to break one of those..lol
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 08/04/2013 at 14:26
Rob,
thanks, I have just called Somers who I prchased the vice from and they confirmed the lifetime warranty.

Result.

Eddie. :z16 :z16 :z16
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 08/04/2013 at 15:18
Rob,
thanks, I have just called Somers who I prchased the vice from and they confirmed the lifetime warranty.

Result.

Eddie. :z16 :z16 :z16

Super duper!!! Am I entitled to 50% of the £250 you were about to needlessly spend? If so, can I have a new 11' #3 Wychwood "Stream and River" rod. Ta.
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 08/04/2013 at 15:33
Rob,
sorry but the £250.00 may well be put towards a new toy after the casting day on Sunday.

Eddie. :wink
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 08/04/2013 at 15:54
Rob,
sorry but the £250.00 may well be put towards a new toy after the casting day on Sunday.

"May"???..More like "WILL"..lol
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Eddie Sinclair on 08/04/2013 at 19:04
Rob,
are you related to my wife? she is also psychic when it comes to me buying fishing tackle.

 :z4

Eddie.
Title: Re: broken vice
Post by: Rob Brownfield on 09/04/2013 at 07:49
Rob,
are you related to my wife? she is also psychic when it comes to me buying fishing tackle.

 :z4

Eddie.

Just thinking with the same mind set as you ;)