[Rob Brownfield]

Can give you some casting lessons which will help with that if you want Rob 

Should have popped by for a brew 

Cheeky sod..lol...and i still dont know where you live! 

I was getting the line into the wind, but I could not get the fly to turn over..but then again, it was dressed on a 6/0 and some 9 inches long!!..lol