Fishing The Fly Scotland
Index => Main Discussion Area => Topic started by: Paul Rankine on 17/05/2010 at 21:36
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Hi All,
Came across this series of flicks on the Airflo site .
http://www.airfloflyfish.com/indexairflo-design-09.cfm?airflochoosecountry=1
Quite Funny in parts too, :z4 Check out the guy in the surf.
Paul.
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I found the "How to break your fly rod" very interesting. What is the tie up between Airflo and ECHO rods?
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Here's your answer, Rob: http://www.rajeffsports.com/airflo_about.php
Great rods, by the way :z16
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Hi ,
Gee that Steve has got really big ears !
Paul.
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Back to the fish.
Becoming something of a tuna addict :cool: if you ever get the chnace to get one
on the fly , take it. Mind you if they look like these you may need to take some spare shorts :shock
http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f76/can-cows-really-fly-10499/
still trying to get my head around just how they might go on any rod
never mind the fly. Awesome photos though :z16
sandy
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Hi Sandy,
Ok back to the fish . Mainly Tuna now :wink . Awesome pics . Here's one in the boat from Newport.(http://i45.tinypic.com/s3ouj8.jpg)
What's the biggest anyone has caught on a fly rod ?
Paul.
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That Lemon shark has to be a contender at 4.6"....did you get it Ben?
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That Lemon shark has to be a contender at 4.6"....did you get it Ben?
I did get it Noel, on a 10wt rod. I've no idea how heavy it was as there are no scales on the boats and I refuse to use one of those bogagrip things but, it was quite big :z4
Intersting fight, it was a powerful fish but not that fast compared to the other things we caught.
Cheers
Ben
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What's the biggest anyone has caught on a fly rod ?
Paul
The IGFA Saltwater fly caught record for Blue fin Tuna is 196lb 9oz :shock on a 20lb tippet
Thats the biggest one i can find, mind boggling :shock
Mind you, the all tackle record is 1496lb :shock Probably literally like being attached to a torpedo
Sandy
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"The climax for UK tuna was reached in 1933 with a fish that is still the UK record weighing 851lbs taken off Whitby in Yorkshire, again by Mitchell-Henry."
Who needs tropical climes :)
"Bluefin estimated at 1000lbs were seen feeding and leaping in a shoal just off Stoke Point east of Plymouth several times during the 1970's. This coincided with several tuna between 620lbs and 880lbs being brought in to Cornish ports by boats that had been working the mackerel shoals within 10 miles of shore around the Lizard Peninsula and Dodman Point. "
Apparently Tuna are regularly seen feeding off of Orkney and the Shetlands...might have to break out my 10 weight :)
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Rob,
Apparently Tuna are regularly seen feeding off of Orkney and the Shetlands.
Really ? I don't think so . Any Bluefin there are chance encounters mate from the fast dwindling eastern stock's oceanic wanderings. You would have a long time waiting .
These fish are known to be Atlantic ocean wanderers ,migrating from the eastern seaboard of America to the north of Shetland , even over to the Norwegian coast then sometimes down into the North sea ,crossing over to the North East English coast (following the clockwise North sea counter current) .The fish were probably attracted to herring in the drift net fishery there. This was the reason for the Scarborough fishery in 50,s. In some years the herring pair trawlers off our coast right here encounter one odd one or two but it's been a few years now that the last one was landed. I remember seeing one at Peterhead many moons ago that was over 1000 pounds , absolutely massive.
They reckon that the world's Bluefin stocks have been reduced in the past thirty years to around 5% of their former total. Something to think about .
There was a guy set up a tuna business off the West Coast of Ireland ,I don't think he survived though such was the unpredictable nature of the tuna shoals.
One on a fly rod certainly would be quite an experience Sandy !! Incidentally , do you know if the tuna in the piccies were chummed up or was it just right place right time for a blitz?
By the way ,best of luck with your 10 wt Rob !! Hmmm match wood comes to mind ! :shock. You are talking about fish in the 600 to 1200 pounds weight class here.
Paul.
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Who said anything about Bluefin off of Scotland? Although Bft have been seen off of scotland and even Norway, they are rare thanks to over fishing in the bay of Biscay. However, Albacore tuna are seen and caught, all be it on a small scale.
Here are several charter boats still operating out of Ireland but they caught no Bft in 2009, mainly due to the weather shortening the season considerably although they did see fish.
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One on a fly rod certainly would be quite an experience Sandy !! Incidentally , do you know if the tuna in the piccies were chummed up or was it just right place right time for a blitz?
Paul
I think from the picture it was just timing, there are a lot of bait fish in the air :shock if you look carefully at some of the shots. Its very similar to what i saw in Oz but it was longtails and frigates and much much smaller :grin.
Its the speed that they swim that blows you away, thats why on the fly i have encountered nothing yet that was more amazing, but i keep trying :z16 They don't need to be big, you just have to hook them :z6
Sandy
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Its the speed that they swim that blows you away,
Have you had a Barracuda yet? The initial run is blistering, as Ben found out, reel drag frazzling. I would say that first run from a Cuda is about the fastest thing you will ever hook...but the Tuna are most certainly more powerful over a longer period.
Not had Tuna on a fly rod but had plenty when trolling around the AMPA field using Rebel and Rapala Magnums. 20 lb class stand up sticks and still it was a struggle to land fish upto about 40lb.
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Hi Rob,
Ok. Albacore tuna are seen and caught, all be it on a small scale.
This is hot news indeed . Perhaps you could furnish some proof ?
Paul. :z18
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Look up SEERAD..I really can't be bothered
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Hi Rob,
I think it was you who mentioned bluefin tuna to begin with . Then you switch your comments to Albacore.
When I ask you for a reference to back up your statement that Apparently Tuna are regularly seen feeding off of Orkney and the Shetlands.
you say look up SEERAD.
Ok, I,ve looked up Seerad and I all I can find are references to the Bay of Biscay and Cornwall , nothing about Orkney and Shetland and the regular sightings of albacore feeding.
I,m genuinely interested in whether albacore have extended their range in the way that you describe.
Do you have a reference or not ?
Paul.
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Hi again Rob,
Here is a link to some scientific information about Northern Albacore. You should note in particular the distribution map.
http://firms.fao.org/firms/resource/4/en
As I said , you'll have long wait . :wink
Still interested in your reference though .
Paul.
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You have answered your own question. Look at the maps in that link you posted, bottom right map clearly shows longline catches in the period 2000-2007 of Albacore off the Northern tip of Scotland, just where Orkney is, and to the East between Scotland and Norway.
Thank you for posting that.
As for your reference to the "distribution" map, I did not realise that there was a straight line that the fish could not cross, perhaps the currents just hit the line and stop? ..maybe someone should tell them :z8
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Now, now, girls.
:z4 :z4
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Now, now, girls.
:z4 :z4
Sandy, I have slightly more important things to worry about than a peeing contest :grin
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Hows the fishing anyway? Have you been upto Muara for the Barramuni yet?
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Plenty barramundi in the Tutong river :wink
so I don't need to go as far as Maura
hopefully should be out after Spanish mackeral on Tuesday
so well see how that goes :z16
still can't get any with the fly ( well none worth photographing)
sandy
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Rob,
At that level of catch I for one won't be fishing for Albacore off the coast of Orkney anytime soon and nor should any other sane person. Your make me laugh though ,thanks. :z4
Paul.
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Plenty barramundi in the Tutong river :wink
so I don't need to go as far as Maura
Wow, the only things I caught at Tutong were Cats upto about 6 pounds, some form of Barb (I think it was Swamp Barbs) and 3 spot Gouramis (tiny size 20 hooks, tiny strip of bacon rind to look like a grub).
Have you tried for Sumartran Tiger Fish yet? If you walk South of the Panaga Club, about a mile along the beach you come to a sungi that runs through the golf course. Walk up the south side, under the first bridge, under the second and about 20-30 yards up a smaller sungi enters. The water here is about 8 feet deep and the tigers can be seen smashing into baitfish. Not massive, a 5 pound fish being a good one, but ripe for a polar Hair Minnow or small EP baitfish!! They hit hard and fight hard! Almost like a freshwater Barra.
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Have you tried for Sumartran Tiger Fish yet? If you walk South of the Panaga Club, about a mile along the beach you come to a sungi that runs through the golf course. Walk up the south side, under the first bridge, under the second and about 20-30 yards up a smaller sungi enters. The water here is about 8 feet deep and the tigers can be seen smashing into baitfish. Not massive, a 5 pound fish being a good one, but ripe for a polar Hair Minnow or small EP baitfish!! They hit hard and fight hard! Almost like a freshwater Barra.
This sounds interesting, the Sungi's on the golf course are out of bounds for fishing as are the wee ponds that are heaving with all kinds of fish :cry They are pretty serious when it comes to the golf course, i've already asked :z6
I think i know exactly where you are talking about and there are some cracking fish, but unfortunatley a no go.
We have Crocs on the golf course as well :shock at least Two are regularly spotted on a couple of the holes where there is a lot of water. So a few things may have changed , not much i'll wager :wink but a few.
I keep trying to find spots that are safe and hold fish, but the two things don't really intersect very much :cry
I think i may have caught one of the tiger fish on a small diving plug at Lorong Tujuh but it threw the hook after an acrobatic fight before i got a chance to get a good look at it.
As i say i keep trying, but the heat gets a bit fierce for a scottish loon after a while, so i go and hide and tie flies :wink
Its all good fun though and worth perseveering as one of the locals had a Barra (selunsong) of 12kg's out of the river just the other day :shock and ther have been quite a few a good bit bigger than that too :cool:
Sandy
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I would kill to get out there again!!
As for the golf sungi, just do it :) I think I fished it every day through the holiday! :)
The crocs were a wee bit of a hazard back in my days there. If your ball landed near one, you got a free drop ;) There was also a "gang" of monkeys up the far end of the course that would either steal your ball, or worse, wait until your back was turned and leg it with a club or two. There must be thousands of pounds worth of clubs in the Ulu!
Another place I fished frequently was off the bridge over the main Seria river. Mainly strips of fish for the Catfish. Had a few strange fish there that I could not identify. A local Japanese chap used to fly fish the mouth just down stream. Shooting heads and small flies, but never saw him catch.
Lastly, there is a sungi that runs through the back of the houses in Panaga. That was good for Climbing Perch :) Now they were interesting fish!!! The Tigers were there too but it was very overgrown so short "poles" were the order of the day.
Talking of the golf course..is the small hill called "Thompsons Tits" still on it? Under each "hillock" is rumered to be a Japanese tank.
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Hi ,
" Mainly Tarpon " ???? :z4
Paul. :roll